# Botticelli, July 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 12, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711 "2011-07-12T03:36:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/181 "2011-07-21T02:00:31Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > If you feel that I went too far and implied that he was missing two fingers rather than missing the use of two fingers, then I will accept if you refuse me a DQ. > > Possible DQ: Were you born in the twentieth century? I had heard about Reinhardt’s limitation, so I’m inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt. I was not born in the twentieth century. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ: Along with your brother (who had no ‘R’ in his monogram), were you one of the busiest studio musicians in the 1970s? No, although I suspect I’ll recognize the name when I see it. Take another DQ. > [@astorian](#): > > Did you coach the last all-white team to win the NCAA Division 1 football championship? No, I’m not Darrell Royal. > [@astorian](#): > > Did you create a trio of singing rodents, and name them after executives at your record label? No, I’m not Ross “David Seville” Bagdasarian. > [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > DQ: is the R in your first or last name? > > IQ: Do you want me to be your neighbor? I’m not Fred Rogers, and the R is not part of my last name. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I think the DQ answers are easier to understand if they’re not phrased in the negative, so if I may: > > 1. A real person > 2. Male > 3. Dead > > DQ: American? > > IQ: Have you played a marksman, a crook and a bomb-disposal expert? Well, the last DQ I answered doesn’t conform so easily to your format, so I’ll stick with my style for now. I am (or to be chronologically correct, was) American. Take a DQ for the marksman stumper. > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ: Does your impossibly hot wife like you because you make her laugh? This could apply to several actors and characters. I believe it’s within the bounds of reason to say I’m not Ray Barone. > [@astorian](#): > > Are you famous for, allegedly, saving the life of a captain your Dad was about to execute? Sounds familiar, but I’m drawing a blank. DQ for you. Summary: 1. Not fictional 2. Not female 3. Not still alive 4. Not born during the twentieth century 5. Last name does not begin with R ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/182 "2011-07-21T02:19:51Z")
Don’t forget to add “American” to your summary. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQ: Have you played a marksman, a crook and a bomb-disposal expert? Jeremy Renner, in _Thor, The Town_ and _The Hurt Locker_. DQ: Dead by 1900? IQ: Were you the first Attorney General of the United States? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/183 "2011-07-21T02:38:11Z")
In a famous legend, Pocahontas saved Captain John Smith, who was about to be executed by her father, Powhattan. How is she an “R”? She became a Christian and married tobacco planter John Rolfe, then spent the rest of her short life as Rebecca Rolfe. My DQ: Were you born in the 19th century? ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/184 "2011-07-21T02:44:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQ: Dead by 1900? > > IQ: Were you the first Attorney General of the United States? I was not dead by 1900, nor am I Peyton Randolph. > [@astorian](#): > > In a famous legend, Pocahontas saved Captain John Smith, who was about to be executed by her father, Powhattan. How is she an “R”? She became a Christian and married tobacco planter John Rolfe, then spent the rest of her short life as Rebecca Rolfe. > > My DQ: > > Were you born in the 19th century? I wasn’t thinking of the Pocahontas legend, but it certainly qualifies. I was born in the nineteenth century. Summary: 1. Not fictional 2. Not female 3. Not still alive 4. Not born during the twentieth century 5. Last name does not begin with R 6. American 7. Born in the nineteenth century 8. Not dead by 1900 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/185 "2011-07-21T03:26:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Le Ministre de l’au-delà** > IQ: Along with your brother (who had no ‘R’ in his monogram), were you one of the busiest studio musicians in the 1970s? > [@Sternvogel](#): > > No, although I suspect I’ll recognize the name when I see it. Take another DQ. So you’re not Randy Brecker, who, along with his brother, the late Michael Brecker, played more sessions in a day than many other musicians play in a week. DQ: Are you known as a political figure? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/186 "2011-07-21T03:30:12Z")
IQ: Were you a child prodigy and a virtuoso of both the classical guitar and the concertina? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/187 "2011-07-21T11:14:48Z")
Were you and your brother homeless bums in the Eddie Murphy comedy “Trading Places”? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/188 "2011-07-21T18:27:53Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > I was not dead by 1900, nor am I Peyton Randolph. 'Twas Edmund Randolph, but you got the “R” last name right, so I won’t quibble. IQ: Was your photo once mixed up with that of an undertaker on the front page of a small-town newspaper? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/189 "2011-07-21T18:55:13Z")
Were you in love with the daughter of the captain of HMS Pinafore? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/190 "2011-07-22T00:49:27Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > [QUOTE=ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness] > > IQ: Does your impossibly hot wife like you because you make her laugh? This could apply to several actors and characters. I believe it’s within the bounds of reason to say I’m not Ray Barone. [/QUOTE] I had Roger Rabbit in mind, but your answer works. I tried changing the word “impossibly” to “cartoonishly”, but the edit time had expired. IQ: Did a female musician write and perform a song entitled “The Adulteress” that described her affair with you? ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/191 "2011-07-22T02:41:26Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > So you’re not Randy Brecker, who, along with his brother, the late Michael Brecker, played more sessions in a day than many other musicians play in a week. > > DQ: Are you known as a political figure? I was somewhat active in politics, but it’s safe to say nobody thinks of me as a politician or political insider. I’ll explain when someone figures out who I am. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ: Were you a child prodigy and a virtuoso of both the classical guitar and the concertina? No, so you get a DQ. > [@astorian](#): > > Were you and your brother homeless bums in the Eddie Murphy comedy “Trading Places”? No, I’m not Ralph Bellamy. (He did become homeless in the film, right? If not, tell me who did and take a DQ. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > 'Twas Edmund Randolph, but you got the “R” last name right, so I won’t quibble. > > IQ: Was your photo once mixed up with that of an undertaker on the front page of a small-town newspaper? Yeah, I should have just said I’m not Mr. Randolph. But you get a DQ anyway, as the undertaker anecdote sounds familiar, but I can’t remember the details. > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ: Did a female musician write and perform a song entitled “The Adulteress” that described her affair with you? No, but I’m interested to know who did. Tell me as you pose your DQ. Summary: 1. Not fictional 2. Not female 3. Not still alive 4. Not born during the twentieth century 5. Last name does not begin with R 6. American 7. Born in the nineteenth century 8. Not dead by 1900 9. Some involvement in politics, but not famous for political activity ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/192 "2011-07-22T02:46:31Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > …Yeah, I should have just said I’m not Mr. Randolph. But you get a DQ anyway, as the undertaker anecdote sounds familiar, but I can’t remember the details… MLK aide Roy Jenkins, whose photo was thus swapped on the front page of the East Liverpool, Ohio _Evening Review_ in 1963. DQ: Alive in 1861? IQ: Was John Williams’s “The Imperial March” played when you entered the playing area for a very important game? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/193 "2011-07-22T03:26:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by \*\*Le Ministre de l’au-delà \*\* > IQ: Were you a child prodigy and a virtuoso of both the classical guitar and the concertina? > [@Sternvogel](#): > > No, so you get a DQ. So you weren’t Giulio Regondi, who was in mid-19th century considered the Primo Maestro of both guitar and concertina. There’s a tale and a half about the discovery of his 10 Etudes, which were missing for nearly a hundred years - the musicological equivalent of a Dan Brown beach book… DQ: Are you renowned for your accomplishments in the Arts, by which I mean the whole she-bang - painting, sculpture, literature, dance, music, acting, poetry, architecture…? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/194 "2011-07-22T03:29:56Z")
IQ: Are you an opera character who is shot mid-way through your last aria? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/195 "2011-07-22T11:52:36Z")
I was going for Randolph Duke, but Ralph Bellamy works just as well! Good answer. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/196 "2011-07-22T19:16:34Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ: Did a female musician write and perform a song entitled “The Adulteress” that described her affair with you? > [@Sternvogel](#): > > No, but I’m interested to know who did. Tell me as you pose your DQ. You are not Ray Davies of The Kinks, who had an affair with Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders. “The Adulteress” was the first song on The Pretenders’ second album, Pretenders II. I was going to ask the same arts related question Le Ministre posed, so I’ll hold off on my DQ until I see the answer for his. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/197 "2011-07-23T02:49:56Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > DQ: Are you renowned for your accomplishments in the Arts, by which I mean the whole she-bang - painting, sculpture, literature, dance, music, acting, poetry, architecture…? No. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ: Are you an opera character who is shot mid-way through your last aria? Well, I’m not Rigoletto. If he wasn’t thus shot, though, take a DQ. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQ: Alive in 1861? Nope. > [@](#): > > IQ: Was John Williams’s “The Imperial March” played when you entered the playing area for a very important game? Sounds like a _Star Wars_ reference, but I’m not a fan of that franchise. DQ for you. Summary: 1. Not fictional 2. Not female 3. Not still alive 4. Not born during the twentieth century 5. Last name does not begin with R 6. American 7. Born in the nineteenth century 8. Not dead by 1900 9. Some involvement in politics, but not famous for political activity 10. Not alive in 1861 11. Not involved in any of the fields generally considered the arts ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/198 "2011-07-23T03:10:43Z")
I’ll take my DQ now. DQ: Are you known for inventing anything? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/199 "2011-07-23T03:17:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by \*\*Le Ministre de l’au-delà \*\* > IQ: Are you an opera character who is shot mid-way through your last aria? > [@Sternvogel](#): > > Well, I’m not Rigoletto. If he wasn’t thus shot, though, take a DQ. Sadly for you, Rigoletto is not shot and is very much alive at the end of the opera. Rodrigue, Le Marquis de Posa is a character in Don Carlos, by the same composer - Giuseppe Verdi. In the aria ‘C’est mon jour suprème’, a price has been put on Rodrigue’s head, and he is shot before the aria ends. In the last half of the aria, he tells Don Carlos that he dies a happy man because Carlos will live to be the saviour of Flanders. DQ: Were you born by 1875? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/200 "2011-07-23T18:41:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …IQ: Was John Williams’s “The Imperial March” played when you entered the playing area for a very important game? Roger Federer, at the U.S. Open. DQ: Military? IQ: Did you write “Christmas in Capetown”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711.md?page=11)