# Botticelli, July 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 12, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711 "2011-07-12T03:36:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/281 "2011-07-26T14:16:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by \*\*Le Ministre de l’au-delà \*\* > IQ: Were you a ne’er-do-well who plagued Tom Brown’s school days and went on to serve in India? > [@astorian](#): > > Never read any Tom Brown books and never saw the movie. Ask a DQ. So you’re not **Flashman** , who first appeared in Thomas Hughes novel ‘Tom Brown’s Schooldays’ as a bully who tormented Tom Brown. Later, a whole other writer, George MacDonald Fraser, wrote a series of novels following the later life and career of Flashman, the first of which was set in India. (Dang, I thought I might have had you there…) DQ: Were you a character in a series of mysteries? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/282 "2011-07-26T14:19:39Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > So you’re not **Flashman** , who first appeared in Thomas Hughes novel ‘Tom Brown’s Schooldays’ as a bully who tormented Tom Brown. Later, a whole other writer, George MacDonald Fraser, wrote a series of novels following the later life and career of Flashman, the first of which was set in India. > > (Dang, I thought I might have had you there…) > > DQ: Were you a character in a series of mysteries? I was going to ask about Flashman, but already had an IQ outstanding at the time. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/283 "2011-07-26T14:22:42Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > DQ: Were you a character in a series of mysteries? No. 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Last name starts with “F” 4. European 5. Nobody’s idea of a hero 6. Not a movie character 7. My creator was British 8. Have appeared in both novels and short stories 9. First appeared after 1900. 10. Did not appear in mysteries ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/284 "2011-07-26T14:26:11Z")
IQ: Are you the boorish mayor of Toronto? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/285 "2011-07-26T14:55:44Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ: Are you the boorish mayor of Toronto? Not Rob Ford, whom I’ve heard of only because my favorite conservative web sites LIKE him a good deal more than you do! (Normally, alas, I couldn’t name many local Canadian politicians.) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/286 "2011-07-26T16:40:28Z")
IQ: Years later, did your guards say you farted in elevators and then blamed them (and that you were a bad tipper)? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/287 "2011-07-26T16:44:50Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQ: Years later, did your guards say you farted in elevators and then blamed them (and that you were a bad tipper)? I think I’m GLAD I don’t know this. Ask a DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/288 "2011-07-26T17:04:54Z")
President Gerald Ford, although an admirable man in many ways, was not beloved by all of his Secret Service agents or golf caddies. DQ: A British character? IQ: Are you a commentator on NPR and an essayist for _The Atlantic_? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/289 "2011-07-26T17:11:14Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > Do both you and your best friend have names related to your jobs? > > And a twofer: Was your most famous novel made into a film where the actor in the title role has a name similar in nature to his character? And, are you said actor? You’re gonna kick yourself, particularly on the first one, to which the answer is Fred Flintstone (and of course Barney Rubble). As for the second, I was thinking of Frederick Forsyth and Edward Fox in _The Day of the Jackal_. Strictly speaking, I think I should get two DQs for this last one (3 in total), but I don’t want to monopolise the game, so 2 will do me just fine. DQ: Did you first appear before 1950? DQ: Are you best known for appearing in comic works? ETA: by “comic”, I mean “comedic” rather than “comic books” - though that may also be an interesting DQ! ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/290 "2011-07-26T17:19:47Z")
IQ: Does your sophomore album have a ridiculously long (90 word) title? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/291 "2011-07-26T17:20:23Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > President Gerald Ford, although an admirable man in many ways, was not beloved by all of his Secret Service agents or golf caddies. > > DQ: A British character? > > IQ: Are you a commentator on NPR and an essayist for _The Atlantic_? Not James Fallows. Yes, I am British 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Last name starts with “F” 4. Nobody’s idea of a hero 5. Not a movie character 6. My creator was British 7. I have appeared in both novels and short stories 8. I first appeared after 1900. 9. I did not appear in mysteries 10. I am British ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/292 "2011-07-26T17:21:55Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > You’re gonna kick yourself, particularly on the first one, to which the answer is Fred Flintstone (and of course Barney Rubble). As for the second, I was thinking of Frederick Forsyth and Edward Fox in _The Day of the Jackal_. Strictly speaking, I think I should get two DQs for this last one (3 in total), but I don’t want to monopolise the game, so 2 will do me just fine. > > DQ: Did you first appear before 1950? > > DQ: Are you best known for appearing in comic works? > > ETA: by “comic”, I mean “comedic” rather than “comic books” - though that may also be an interesting DQ! Yes, I first appeared before 1950 Yes, I appear in comical works. 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Last name starts with “F” 4. Nobody’s idea of a hero 5. Not a movie character 6. My creator was British 7. I have appeared in both novels and short stories 8. I first appeared after 1900, but before 1950. 9. I did not appear in mysteries 10. I am British 11. The works I appear in are comedic in nature I suspect a correct guess is imminent. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/293 "2011-07-26T20:20:06Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > IQ: Are you an author whose first name and last name are identical? This refers to Ford Madox Ford. DQ: Was your creator male? IQ: Are you Mr. Flagston’s boss? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/294 "2011-07-26T20:45:15Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > This refers to Ford Madox Ford. > > DQ: Was your creator male? Yes. 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Last name starts with “F” 4. Nobody’s idea of a hero 5. Not a movie character 6. My creator was British 7. I have appeared in both novels and short stories 8. I first appeared after 1900, but before 1950. 9. I did not appear in mysteries 10. I am British 11. The works I appear in are comedic in nature 12. My creator was a male. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/295 "2011-07-26T20:47:24Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > IQ: Are you Mr. Flagston’s boss? I know “Mr. Flagston” is Hi, from the comic strip “Hi and Lois,” but I have no idea what his twerpy looking boss with the big mustache’s name is. So, ask a DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/296 "2011-07-26T21:16:41Z")
I can’t think of anything suitable, so I’ll try to earn another DQ. IQ: Were you one of the late Ronnie Barker’s most famous creations, appearing in a British sitcom named after a breakfast food? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/297 "2011-07-26T21:21:16Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > I can’t think of anything suitable, so I’ll try to earn another DQ. > > IQ: Were you one of the late Ronnie Barker’s most famous creations, appearing in a British sitcom named after a breakfast food? Ask your DQ- I am totally baffled. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/298 "2011-07-26T22:09:48Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > I know “Mr. Flagston” is Hi, from the comic strip “Hi and Lois,” but I have no idea what his twerpy looking boss with the big mustache’s name is. > > So, ask a DQ. It’s Mr. Foofram (if he has a first name, I don’t recall ever seeing it). DQ: Was your creator known by his first and middle initial, as opposed to his first name? (Yes, I have someone specific in mind.) IQ: Are you one of several generations of U.S. Representatives with the same first and last name? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/299 "2011-07-26T22:53:28Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Ask your DQ- I am totally baffled. Sorry, going for the Brit angle again - almost feels like cheating! I was thinking of Norman Stanley Fletcher, the main character in the 1970s sitcom _Porridge_. I must admit I am baffled, too - I have been wracking my brains but can’t think of anyone suitable, nor even a DQ which will help. Any suggestions from the crowd? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711/300 "2011-07-27T01:08:33Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > DQ: Was your creator known by his first and middle initial, as opposed to his first name? (Yes, I have someone specific in mind.) > > IQ: Are you one of several generations of U.S. Representatives with the same first and last name? To your IQ, not Hamilton Fish To your DQ… YES! My creator went by his first two initials, rather than by his first name. I knew someone would get this soon! 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Last name starts with “F” 4. Nobody’s idea of a hero 5. Not a movie character 6. My creator was British 7. I have appeared in both novels and short stories 8. I first appeared after 1900, but before 1950. 9. I did not appear in mysteries 10. I am British 11. The works I appear in are comedic in nature 12. My creator was a male. 13. My creator used his initials, rather than his first name. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2011/588711.md?page=16)