# Botticelli - July 2012
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052
**Category:** Thread Games
**Created:** [July 3, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052 "2012-07-03T01:11:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/1 "2012-07-03T01:11:48Z")
Our next letter is
**C.**
Have at it!
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### Author:  [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/2 "2012-07-03T01:26:11Z")
IQ1: Did your run in with a notorious Red-Baiter cause you to flee to Europe in the 50’s?
IQ2. Did you cause both of the great Victorian political parties much heartache and angst over the Free Trade vs. Imperial Preference issue? {If you’d have read _Dreadnaught_ this would be easy. :)}
IQ3. Did a vision just before the Battle of Milvian Bridge cause you to adopt a new religion?
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### Author:  [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/3 "2012-07-03T01:33:05Z")
IQ: Is everyone of European heritage related to you?
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### Author:  [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/4 "2012-07-03T02:20:24Z")
IQ1: Are you gonna make me, make me, make me notice?
IQ2: Will you receive total consciousness on your deathbed, which’ll be nice?
IQ3: Do you believe, among other things, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent overrated crap?
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/5 "2012-07-03T04:13:18Z")
> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ1: Did your run in with a notorious Red-Baiter cause you to flee to Europe in the 50’s?
> IQ2. Did you cause both of the great Victorian political parties much heartache and angst over the Free Trade vs. Imperial Preference issue? {If you’d have read _Dreadnaught_ this would be easy. :)}
> IQ3. Did a vision just before the Battle of Milvian Bridge cause you to adopt a new religion?
I’m not Charlie Chaplin, Joseph Chamberlain or… Charlemagne?
> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Is everyone of European heritage related to you?
Definitely not Charlemagne.
> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you gonna make me, make me, make me notice?
> IQ2: Will you receive total consciousness on your deathbed, which’ll be nice?
> IQ3: Do you believe, among other things, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent overrated crap?
Dunno the first or third. Take two DQs.
The second, no, I’m not Carl the groundskeeper from _Caddyshack_.
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### Author:  [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/6 "2012-07-03T04:23:04Z")
If it’s okay to say, the Sontag nonfan is Crash Davis from _Bull Durham_.
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### Author:  [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/7 "2012-07-03T04:24:26Z")
IQ:Are you a sportscaster originally from St. Louis?
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### Author:  [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/8 "2012-07-03T04:28:55Z")
IQ1: Do you hear Beth calling, though you can’t come home right now?
IQ2: Do you walk in the classroom cool and slow, and do you call the English teacher “Daddy-O”?
IQ3: Did you accompany Colonel Slade on a weekend in New York City?
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### Author:  [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/9 "2012-07-03T04:34:27Z")
IQ: Are you a physicist who annoys the hell out of his friends?
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### Author:  [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/10 "2012-07-03T13:54:07Z")
The victor at The Battle of Milvian Bridge was the Emporer Constantine, who, as legend has it, saw a vision in the sky of the Greek Letters Chi and Rho, an early Christian symbol, just prior to the battle. After defeating a superior force, Constantine converted to Christianity and made that the premier religion in the Roman Empire.
DQ: Are you a real person?
IQ1. Did you participate in the last charge of the British Cavalry?
IQ2. Do your snow sculptures push the boundaries of Art?
IQ3. Were you IQ1’s particular cross to bear?
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### Author:  [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/11 "2012-07-03T14:03:04Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno the first or third. Take two DQs.
> The second, no, I’m not Carl the groundskeeper from _Caddyshack_.
Right on Carl Spackler, and **etv** was right on Crash Davis. The first was Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders.
DQ1: Are you male?
I’ll reserve the second DQ until we find out if this is a real person.
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### Author:  [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/12 "2012-07-03T15:34:16Z")
IQ1: Does Don John ruin your (first) wedding day?
IQ2: Do you play the piano drunk like a percussion instrument until the fingers begin to bleed a bit?
IQ3: Were you responsible for infiltrating Looney Tunes cartoons with references to Liszt, Wagner and Rossini?
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/13 "2012-07-04T01:55:24Z")
> [@etv78](#):
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> If it’s okay to say, the Sontag nonfan is Crash Davis from _Bull Durham_.
No! As I’ve asked before, please allow the person who posed the question to supply the answer.
> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ:Are you a sportscaster originally from St. Louis?
Dunno. Take a DQ.
> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Do you hear Beth calling, though you can’t come home right now?
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> IQ2: Do you walk in the classroom cool and slow, and do you call the English teacher “Daddy-O”?
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> IQ3: Did you accompany Colonel Slade on a weekend in New York City?
No, I’m not Peter Criss from KISS, but dunno about the other two. Two DQs.
> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Are you a physicist who annoys the hell out of his friends?
Aw, crap - the guy from _Big Bang Theory_? The name escapes me. Take a DQ.
> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ1. Did you participate in the last charge of the British Cavalry?
> IQ2. Do your snow sculptures push the boundaries of Art?
> IQ3. Were you IQ1’s particular cross to bear?
I’m not Winston Churchill, or Calvin (Hobbes’s pal), or Neville Chamberlain.
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Does Don John ruin your (first) wedding day?
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> IQ2: Do you play the piano drunk like a percussion instrument until the fingers begin to bleed a bit?
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> IQ3: Were you responsible for infiltrating Looney Tunes cartoons with references to Liszt, Wagner and Rossini?
Dunno about the first two; but no, I’m not Chuck Jones.
C.
1. Fictional
2. Male
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### Author:  [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/14 "2012-07-04T03:16:18Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No, I’m not Peter Criss from KISS, but dunno about the other two. Two DQs.
The other two were Charlie Brown, in the late-50s doo-wop song by the Coasters; and the character Charlie Simms, in the film _Scent of a Woman_.
DQ: American?
DQ: Alive as of today?
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### Author:  [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/15 "2012-07-04T03:25:23Z")
IQ1: Did you loan your father’s Ferrari to your friend on his day off?
IQ2: Are you one of the founders of the club that is called G.R.O.S.S?
IQ3: Are you a manager who likes fishing, and who might just use Red Wigglers, the Cadillac of Worms, as bait?
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/16 "2012-07-04T04:47:15Z")
**Spoons** , you got me on all three (the name of the wimpy friend from _Ferris Bueller_ escapes me). Take three DQs.
C.
1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American
4. Unknown if alive today
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### Author:  [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/17 "2012-07-04T05:44:39Z")
> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Did you loan your father’s Ferrari to your friend on his day off?
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> IQ2: Are you one of the founders of the club that is called G.R.O.S.S?
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> IQ3: Are you a manager who likes fishing, and who might just use Red Wigglers, the Cadillac of Worms, as bait?
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> **Spoons** , you got me on all three (the name of the wimpy friend from _Ferris Bueller_ escapes me). Take three DQs.
You are correct that the film is _Ferris Bueller’s Day Off_. The friend is Cameron Frye.
IQ2 was looking for Calvin, of the comic strip “Calvin and Hobbes.” The club is **G** et **R** id **O** f **S** limy girl **S** ; and naturally, Susie Derkins was not allowed to join.
On IQ3, we were looking for Arthur Carlson, angler and manager of WKRP in Cincinnati, which advertised “Red Wigglers–the Cadillac of Worms” as fishing bait, along with a catchy jingle.
DQs to follow.
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### Author:  [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/18 "2012-07-04T05:54:38Z")
DQ1: Does your first name begin with C?
DQ2: Were you born after 1900?
DQ3: Are you a literary character?
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### Author:  [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/19 "2012-07-04T12:31:01Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’m not Winston Churchill, or Calvin (Hobbes’s pal), or Neville Chamberlain.
Right on the first two, but Churchill’s quote was “My cross to bear is the Cross of Lorraine.” , the symbol of the Free French, which makes **Charles de Gaulle** the answer to my third IQ.
I will reserve the DQ until after **Spoon’s** are answered.
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### Author:  [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2012/627052/20 "2012-07-04T14:19:40Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Does Don John ruin your (first) wedding day?
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> IQ2: Do you play the piano drunk like a percussion instrument until the fingers begin to bleed a bit?
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> IQ3: Were you responsible for infiltrating Looney Tunes cartoons with references to Liszt, Wagner and Rossini?
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno about the first two; but no, I’m not Chuck Jones.
In _Much Ado about Nothing_, Don John (the bastard brother of the noble prince of Arragon, Don Pedro) sets out to ruin things for **Claudio** , Don Pedro’s Florentine gallant. First he plants the seeds of jealousy in **Claudio** ’s heart, then his henchman Borachio makes love to Hero’s serving maid Margaret at Hero’s window. Don John convinces Claudio and Don Pedro that it is Hero who is playing the wanton harlot, and the next day’s wedding is a catastrophe.
It all turns out well in the end…
_Play The Piano Drunk Like A Percussion Instrument Until The Fingers Begin To Bleed A Bit_ is the title of a collection of poetry by **Charles Bukowski**.
I was after someone else for the Looney Tunes question, but the mere mention of Chuck Jones’ name makes me smile, and he was certainly a member of the same conspiracy to make America’s youth hear classical music…
I’ll reserve my DQs until some of the above ones are answered.
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