# Botticelli - July, 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 10, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768 "2014-07-10T14:38:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 21

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/401 "2014-07-29T23:55:35Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a noted news photographer whose middle name is Bartholomew?
2. Were you a comic who routinely traveled with Bob Hope on his USO tours?
3. Were you a singer who got his big break when you followed Enrico Caruso on a variety show bill?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/402 "2014-07-29T23:58:48Z")

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IQ: Did you write about an endangered Native American tribe?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/403 "2014-07-30T01:41:41Z")

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IQ1: Was your name originally Dzhugashvili?  
IQ2: Did they call you Vinegar" Joe?  
IQ3: Was your life allegedly saved by a young girl who later married John Rolfe?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/404 "2014-07-30T01:55:56Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you a noted news photographer whose middle name is Bartholomew?
> 2. Were you a comic who routinely traveled with Bob Hope on his USO tours?
> 3. Were you a singer who got his big break when you followed Enrico Caruso on a variety show bill?

dunno, not Jack Benny, not Joni Mitchell

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/405 "2014-07-30T01:57:44Z")

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All right, **Knowed Out**!

Previous IQs:

Do you like to photograph your Weimaraners? - Yes, William Wegman  
Were you noted for your pictures of the Thirties New York street scene? - This was Weegee: [weegee - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1748&bih=892&q=weegee&oq=weegee&gs_l=img.3..0l10.89.2271.0.2597.11.9.2.0.0.0.130.745.8j1.9.0.ehm_loc%2Chmss2%3Dfalse%2Chms2min%3D10%2Chms2max%3D10%2Chmtb%3D120%2Chmta%3D1440%2Chmrde%3D0-0%2Chmde%3D1-0%2Chmmpp1%3D0-5%2Chmmpp2%3D0-3%2Chmth%3D4%2Chmffs%3D10000...0...1.1.49.img..0.11.750.AeQUKQGn8bw#hl=en&q=weegee+photographs&tbm=isch&imgdii=_)  
Were you a top Nazi general? - Yes, Wilhelm Keitel

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:  
> …  
> 2) Were you the first president to throw out the ball at the start of a baseball game?  
> …

I’d already asked about William Howard Taft in post 368.

J it is.

IQs:

Did you illustrate Edward Lear’s _The Owl and the Pussy Cat_ with a Caribbean theme?  
Were you to hold a summit meeting with Hitler in the Robert Harris alt-hist masterpiece _Fatherland_?  
Did you write _Why England Slept_?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/406 "2014-07-30T01:59:07Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you write about an endangered Native American tribe?

can’t even guess this one

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/407 "2014-07-30T02:02:05Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Was your name originally Dzhugashvili?  
> IQ2: Did they call you Vinegar" Joe?  
> IQ3: Was your life allegedly saved by a young girl who later married John Rolfe?

Strike one, strike two, strike three

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/408 "2014-07-30T02:05:41Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you illustrate Edward Lear’s _The Owl and the Pussy Cat_ with a Caribbean theme?  
> Were you to hold a summit meeting with Hitler in the Robert Harris alt-hist masterpiece _Fatherland_?  
> Did you write _Why England Slept_?

Not Jack Davis, not Josef Stalin, not John Cleese

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/409 "2014-07-30T02:08:23Z")

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James Fennimore Cooper

DQ: Real?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/410 "2014-07-30T02:16:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you a noted news photographer whose middle name is Bartholomew?
> 2. Were you a comic who routinely traveled with Bob Hope on his USO tours?
> 3. Were you a singer who got his big break when you followed Enrico Caruso on a variety show bill?
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> dunno, not Jack Benny, not Joni Mitchell

#1 is James “Jimmy” Olsen of the Daily Planet.  
#2 was Jerry Colonna. As far as I know, Benny never traveled with Hope’s tour.  
#3 was Al Jolson. After following the man known as the Greatest Singer In The World, he was able to start his career by telling the crowd: “You ain’t heard nothin’ yet!” and breaking into a ragtime number that brought the house down.

DQs:

1. Male?
2. Last name start with J?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/411 "2014-07-30T02:52:03Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Was your name originally Dzhugashvili?  
> IQ2: Did they call you Vinegar" Joe?  
> IQ3: Was your life allegedly saved by a young girl who later married John Rolfe?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Strike one, strike two, strike three

Josef Stalin.  
Gen Joseph Stilwell.  
John Smith. (The girl, of course, was Pocahontas.)  
DQ1: Real?  
DQ2a: (If real) American?  
DQ2b: (If fictional) From an American source?  
One DQ reserved.  
DQ1: Were you and Mitchie gettin’ kind of itchy?  
DQ2: Did you write “The Thunderer”?  
DQ3: Were you the US commander in Europe during WW I?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/412 "2014-07-30T12:03:29Z")

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1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. American
5. From an American source

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/413 "2014-07-30T12:05:54Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ1: Were you and Mitchie gettin’ kind of itchy?  
> DQ2: Did you write “The Thunderer”?  
> DQ3: Were you the US commander in Europe during WW I?

dunno, dunno, not John Pershing

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/414 "2014-07-30T12:37:24Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ2a: (If real) American?  
> DQ2b: (If fictional) From an American source?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> 1. American
> 2. From an American source

That was meant to be one question, not two. ☹

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ1: Were you and Mitchie gettin’ kind of itchy?  
> DQ2: Did you write “The Thunderer”?  
> DQ3: Were you the US commander in Europe during WW I?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> dunno, dunno, not John Pershing

John Phillips of The Mamas and the Papas, according to the first line of “Creeque Alley.”  
John Philip Sousa.  
Correct on John J Pershing.  
DQ1: From literature?  
DQ2: Created after 1950?  
IQ1: Were you called “Dingus”?  
IQ2: Are you Fenton’s son, and Frank’s brother?  
IQ3: Were you the father of Ephraim and Manasseh?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/415 "2014-07-30T13:59:14Z")

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OK, revised DQ list:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. American
5. Not from literature
6. Created after 1950

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/416 "2014-07-30T14:03:24Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you called “Dingus”?  
> IQ2: Are you Fenton’s son, and Frank’s brother?  
> IQ3: Were you the father of Ephraim and Manasseh?

I can only think of Hank Venture, which doesn’t qualify  
Not James T. Kirk  
Not Joseph

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/417 "2014-07-30T16:53:06Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the protagonist in _The Nightmare Before Christmas_?
2. Are you the protagonist in Disney’s _Pirates of the Caribbean_ series?
3. Are you the protagonist in _Big Trouble In Little China_?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/418 "2014-07-30T17:12:39Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the protagonist in _The Nightmare Before Christmas_?
> 2. Are you the protagonist in Disney’s _Pirates of the Caribbean_ series?
> 3. Are you the protagonist in _Big Trouble In Little China_?

Not Jack-O-Lantern, not Jack Sparrow, not Jack Burton

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/419 "2014-07-30T18:21:38Z")

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#1 is actually Jack Skellington. Correct on the other two.

DQ: from movies?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2014/692768/420 "2014-07-30T18:22:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
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> Did you illustrate Edward Lear’s _The Owl and the Pussy Cat_ with a Caribbean theme?  
> Were you to hold a summit meeting with Hitler in the Robert Harris alt-hist masterpiece _Fatherland_?  
> Did you write _Why England Slept_?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Not Jack Davis, not Josef Stalin, not John Cleese

None of those, sorry.

Jan Brett: [The Owl and the Pussycat: Edward Lear, Jan Brett: 9780399231933: Amazon.com: Books](http://www.amazon.com/The-Owl-Pussycat-Edward-Lear/dp/0399231935/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406743866&sr=8-1&keywords=brett+lear+owl)  
Joseph Kennedy Sr.  
JFK

DQs:

First appeared on TV?  
Created after 1990?  
Generally considered a “good guy”?

IQs:

Did you once serve under a Capt. Garrovick?  
Did a man named Vargo do you no favors?  
Are you the next-to-most-recent President of Iraq?

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