# Botticelli - July 2015 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 4, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270 "2015-07-04T20:37:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/321 "2015-07-23T13:00:06Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Were you editor of _Cosmopolitan_ for several decades? > IQ2: Was your older son called by his first name, repeated? > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > take 2 DQs Helen Gurley Brown. John-John Kennedy’s mother was Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy. DQ1: Known for sports? DQ2: Born east of the Mississippi? Three DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/322 "2015-07-23T14:40:02Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > …John-John Kennedy’s mother was Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy… As William Manchester noted, it’s a myth that JFK Jr. was called “John-John.” His father once, in calling him from another room, quickly repeated his name. A reporter, overhearing it, mistakenly reported it as the boy’s nickname. IQs: Did you sing of a geometric shape in a granular medium? - Belinda Carlisle: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2ZF9IuHlB0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2ZF9IuHlB0) Was your official residence a basement in Russell? - Bob Dole of Kansas, during the 1996 campaign. Have you played a concierge, a Vietnam vet and a weatherman? - Bill Murray, in _The Grand Budapest Hotel, St. Vincent_ and _Groundhog Day_. DQs: Born north of the Mason-Dixon Line? Best known for a single incident? Second letter in your last name is a vowel? IQs: Is your son Christopher a noted American writer? Were you a Confederate female spy? Have you played a concierge, a network executive, an overzealous prosecutor and a computer genius? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/323 "2015-07-23T14:53:08Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > As William Manchester noted, it’s a myth that JFK Jr. was called “John-John.” His father once, in calling him from another room, quickly repeated his name. A reporter, overhearing it, mistakenly reported it as the boy’s nickname. It may be a myth that his parents called him that, but the general public certainly used it. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/324 "2015-07-23T17:00:21Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Is your son Christopher a noted American writer? > Were you a Confederate female spy? > Have you played a concierge, a network executive, an overzealous prosecutor and a computer genius? dunno x2, not Matthew Broderick 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/325 "2015-07-23T17:04:33Z")
DQ Roundup 1. Real 2. Female 3. Dead 4. Known for the arts, but not most famous for it 5. American 6. Died after 1900 7. Last name starts with B 8. Born in or after 1900 9. Not involved in politics 10. Not born in or after 1950 11. Died in or after 2000 12. Married to another famous person 13. Not known for the sciences 14. Caucasian 15. Beauty is a matter of debate, but she has inspired others to copy her 16. Not known for sports 17. Not born east of the Mississippi 18. Born north of the Mason Dixon line 19. Best known for multiple incidents 20. Second letter of last name is a vowel Guessing time. Everybody should have a DQ available for guessing. I’m not offering any bonus hints this time, since they’ll be huge giveaways. Until tomorrow afternoon, or earlier. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/326 "2015-07-23T20:33:42Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you the female tennis player who won “The Battle of the Sexes” in 1973? > 2. Are you the male tennis player that she beat? > 3. Are you the female athlete and golfer with a museum in Beaumont, TX? > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > not Billie Jean King, not Bobby Riggs, dunno 1. Babe Didrikson Zaharias And I’m stumped. I can’t even imagine what she’s famous for. Thinking out loud… Could it be something in the Guinness book of world records? Fastest woman? First woman to climb Mt Everest? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/327 "2015-07-23T20:38:37Z")
I’ll just surrender now. I’m betting we’d all know this person if we’d just asked better DQs and narrowed the field of endeavor down a bit (Yes, I said “we,” because my questions were pretty useless at narrowing the field down, too). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/328 "2015-07-24T05:04:33Z")
Previous IQs: Is your son Christopher a noted American writer? - Pat Buckley. Were you a Confederate female spy? - Belle Boyd. Have you played a concierge, a network executive, an overzealous prosecutor and a computer genius? - Bob Balaban, in _The Grand Budapest Hotel, Seinfeld, Absence of Malice_ and _2010: The Year We Make Contact._ Still drawing a blank on this person. Think think think… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/329 "2015-07-24T11:15:24Z")
I’m drawing a blank as well. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/330 "2015-07-24T18:20:25Z")
:: hoists white flag :: ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/331 "2015-07-24T19:39:32Z")
I am Tammy Faye [SIZE=“7”]Bakker[/SIZE]. Bakker was an American Christian singer, evangelist, entrepreneur, author, talk show host, and television personality. She was married from 1961 to 1992 to televangelist, and later convicted felon, Jim Bakker. She co-hosted with him on The PTL Club (1976–1987). She was a participant in the 2004 season of the reality show The Surreal Life. Next letter is C. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/332 "2015-07-24T19:46:31Z")
Hmmm. Tammy Faye Bakker is a good name for Botticelli, but I would never have said that she was “Known for the arts, but not most famous for it,” nor that her “Beauty is a matter of debate, but she has inspired others to copy her,” nor that she was “Best known for multiple incidents.” She was known, I would’ve said, for a single incident - her husband’s fall from televangelistic grace. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/333 "2015-07-24T19:58:17Z")
She DID inspire a lot of imitators… mostly drag queens! Okay, as I said earlier, she’s plenty famous. I just didn’t do my part to narrow her down. IQ1) Were you known as The Pathfinder’s Pathfinder? IQ2) Did a messy divorce ruin your plans to buy the Minnesota Vikings? IQ3) Are you an Italian immigrant who helped Mac get back at the bully who kicked sand on him? ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/334 "2015-07-24T20:21:37Z")
Tammy Faye! Well done. I associate her with NC, so the clues about west of Miss. and north of M-D line were never going to help. (Though I do see that she was from Minnesota.) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/335 "2015-07-24T22:36:07Z")
I don’t think I’ve ever been helped by knowing if someone was born “west of the Mississippi” or “north of the Mason-Dixon line”. West of the Rhine, yes. IQs: 1. Could you make me a man in seven days? 2. Did you say “Big book, big evil”? 3. Were you aka Khufu? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/336 "2015-07-24T23:28:38Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Hmmm. > > Tammy Faye Bakker is a good name for Botticelli, but I would never have said that she was “Known for the arts, but not most famous for it,” nor that her “Beauty is a matter of debate, but she has inspired others to copy her,” nor that she was “Best known for multiple incidents.” She was known, I would’ve said, for a single incident - her husband’s fall from televangelistic grace. She’s recorded albums, danced and performed, so she’s known for the arts. She’s considered either beautiful or hideous, depending on your tastes. She hosted a TV show that aired in front of millions, she was involved in the Heritage USA scandal, she appeared on reality TV, and certainly grabbed the spotlight whenever possible, so known for multiple incidents. I felt I was accurate in my answers for these reasons. Her birthplace looked to be directly north of the Mississippi. I didn’t realize that until I looked at a map. That’s why I said “not born east of the Mississippi.” Sometimes these anomalies pop up without any foreknowledge. One time I had Jesse Ventura as the mystery guest, and he was born in Minneapolis, which the Mississippi flows through. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/337 "2015-07-24T23:34:49Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > IQ1) Were you known as The Pathfinder’s Pathfinder? > > IQ2) Did a messy divorce ruin your plans to buy the Minnesota Vikings? > > IQ3) Are you an Italian immigrant who helped Mac get back at the bully who kicked sand on him? dunno x2, not Charles Atlas ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/338 "2015-07-24T23:37:05Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Could you make me a man in seven days? > 2. Did you say “Big book, big evil”? > 3. Were you aka Khufu? not Charles Atlas, dunno, not Cheops(?) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/339 "2015-07-25T02:05:00Z")
[QUOTE] IQs: 1. Could you make me a man in seven days? 2. Did you say “Big book, big evil”? 3. Were you aka Khufu? not Charles Atlas, dunno, not Cheops(?) Correct, the ancient librarian and scribe Callimachus, correct. DQ: Real? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270/340 "2015-07-25T03:20:31Z")
:: shrugs :: OK, then. IQs: Did you marry your first cousin, who was worried that you’d go to hell (but not for that)? Are you the Duke of Rothesay? Were you the Tory villain of _First Among Equals_? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2015/724270.md?page=18)