# Botticelli July 2016 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 1, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885 "2016-07-01T19:49:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/41 "2016-07-05T15:24:16Z")
I am so deep in No-Idea-Land that I can’t even come up with IQs. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/42 "2016-07-05T15:39:08Z")
Well, “American” usually means U.S.A. here, so it’s quite possibly a Canadian or Mexican or Caribbean musician. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/43 "2016-07-05T15:45:41Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Well, “American” usually means U.S.A. here, so it’s quite possibly a Canadian or Mexican or Caribbean musician. I have seriously been racking my brain for a Canadian musician and coming up empty. I still have 3-Day Weekend Brain. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/44 "2016-07-05T17:43:31Z")
Previous IQs: Is a Pennsylvania fort named after you? - Lord Ligonier. Did you write _Ben-Hur_? - Yes, Lew Wallace. Are you a noted liberal American law professor? - Laurence Tribe. DQs: Instrumentalist? English is his primary language? Two DQs reserved. IQs: Are you the frontman for Rush? Did Lincoln appoint you U.S. marshal for the District of Columbia? Were you the coolest of the Mod Squad? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/45 "2016-07-05T19:17:40Z")
1. Male. 2. Real. 3. Last name starts with L. 4. Living. 5. Not American. 6. Not known for government/politics/the military. 7. Best known for the arts. 8. Born before 1980. 9. Born before 1960. 10. Known for music. 11. Not best known as a singer. 12. Not European. 13. Never won a Grammy. 14. Born in the Northern Hemisphere. 15. A bit difficult to quantify, but I’ll go with not known as a composer. 16. Born in the Western Hemisphere. 17. Instrumentalist. 18. English is his primary language. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/46 "2016-07-05T19:21:26Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you aka Lewis Carroll? > 2. Were you the girl #1 told stories about? > 3. Did you & Mr. Scott create the foremost ancient Greek lexicon in use today? Yeah, still a bit muzzy from last night myself, but… 1. Charles Dodgson 2. Clueless, though if you’re talking about _The Prisoner_ I shouldn’t be. But then it’s been a while. 3. Henry Liddell ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/47 "2016-07-05T19:22:37Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Previous IQs: > > Is a Pennsylvania fort named after you? - Lord Ligonier. > Did you write _Ben-Hur_? - Yes, Lew Wallace. > Are you a noted liberal American law professor? - Laurence Tribe. > > DQs: > > Instrumentalist? > English is his primary language? > > Two DQs reserved. > > IQs: > > Are you the frontman for Rush? > Did Lincoln appoint you U.S. marshal for the District of Columbia? > Were you the coolest of the Mod Squad? Geddy Lee, dunno, Linc. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/48 "2016-07-05T19:26:26Z")
OK, time to wind things up. It looks like there are 4 DQ’s left available, 3 for **Elendil’s Heir** and 1 for the **Professor**. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/49 "2016-07-05T20:24:19Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Yeah, still a bit muzzy from last night myself, but… > > 1. Charles Dodgson > 2. Clueless, though if you’re talking about _The Prisoner_ I shouldn’t be. But then it’s been a while. > 3. Henry Liddell Duh…you meant the girl Alice in Wonderland is based on…told you I was muzzy. (Besides, #1 wouldn’t be telling stories in _The Prisoner_ anyway.) Can’t recall her name… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/50 "2016-07-05T20:55:44Z")
> [@](#): > > Yeah, still a bit muzzy from last night myself, but… > > 1. Charles Dodgson > 2. Clueless, though if you’re talking about The Prisoner I shouldn’t be. But then it’s been a while. > 3. Henry Liddell > Duh…you meant the girl Alice in Wonderland is based on…told you I was muzzy. (Besides, #1 wouldn’t be telling stories in The Prisoner anyway.) Can’t recall her name… Correct on #1. I’m impressed you know #3. I’m less impressed you don’t know that Henry’s daughter was Alice Liddell, to whom, with her sisters, Lewis Carroll first told the Wonderland stories. DQ: Solo career? (rather than backup or part of a group) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/51 "2016-07-06T00:49:26Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Correct on #1. I’m impressed you know #3. I’m less impressed you don’t know that Henry’s daughter was Alice Liddell, to whom, with her sisters, Lewis Carroll first told the Wonderland stories. > > DQ: Solo career? (rather than backup or part of a group) I live for Greek mythology, so Liddell & Scott is well-known to me; but I was unaware of the connection, let alone recalling her last name. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/52 "2016-07-06T00:51:21Z")
1. Male. 2. Real. 3. Last name starts with L. 4. Living. 5. Not American. 6. Not known for government/politics/the military. 7. Best known for the arts. 8. Born before 1980. 9. Born before 1960. 10. Known for music. 11. Not best known as a singer. 12. Not European. 13. Never won a Grammy. 14. Born in the Northern Hemisphere. 15. A bit difficult to quantify, but I’ll go with not known as a composer. 16. Born in the Western Hemisphere. 17. Instrumentalist. 18. English is his primary language. 19. Had solo projects, but is far better known for his affiliation with a group. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/53 "2016-07-06T05:14:48Z")
Previous IQs: Are you the frontman for Rush? - Yes, Geddy Lee. Did Lincoln appoint you U.S. marshal for the District of Columbia? - Ward Hill Lamon, who also occasionally served as the President’s bodyguard. Were you the coolest of the Mod Squad? - Yes, Linc. Three DQs reserved. Hmm. Can’t figure out who this is. What to ask? Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/54 "2016-07-06T12:05:23Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Hmm. Can’t figure out who this is. What to ask? Any suggestions? Hell, I spent a good twenty minutes yesterday trying to remember Getty Lee’s name and only coming up with Neal Peart. I am apparently just crap at non-American musicians. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/55 "2016-07-06T13:12:19Z")
Suggestions for what to ask: Canadian? (or Mexican, or Caribbean) Known as a guitarist? (or any other instrument) Rock musician? (or any other genre) Of the three, I’d go with finding the genre myself. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/56 "2016-07-06T14:29:45Z")
Agreed - thanks. DQs: Rock genre? Canadian? One DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/57 "2016-07-06T15:53:34Z")
Note to Johnny on game play: Usually the game goes to a limit of 20 Questions, but the Host of the game has the option of allowing extra already-earned DQs to be admitted. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/58 "2016-07-06T17:48:37Z")
Yeah, I figured it was too late to limit DQ’s that were already earned. 1. Male. 2. Real. 3. Last name starts with L. 4. Living. 5. Not American. 6. Not known for government/politics/the military. 7. Best known for the arts. 8. Born before 1980. 9. Born before 1960. 10. Known for music. 11. Not best known as a singer. 12. Not European. 13. Never won a Grammy. 14. Born in the Northern Hemisphere. 15. A bit difficult to quantify, but I’ll go with not known as a composer. 16. Born in the Western Hemisphere. 17. Instrumentalist. 18. English is his primary language. 19. Had solo projects, but is far better known for his affiliation with a group. 20. Rock genre. 21. Canadian. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/59 "2016-07-06T17:52:17Z")
So, male Canadian rocker, born before 1960, instrumentalist, part of a group. Never won a Grammy. Last name starts with L. Greg Lake of Emerson, Lake & Palmer is English. Hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885/60 "2016-07-06T19:43:38Z")
Bryan Adams and Geddy Lee are the only Canadian rockers I can think of, although of course I know there are others. Think think think… DQ: Guitarist? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2016/758885.md?page=4)