# Botticelli - July 2021 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 7, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874 "2021-07-07T03:09:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/61 "2021-07-10T18:50:14Z")
C. 1. fictional 2. male 3. last name, as he’s nicknamed (and the only name by which he’s known), begins with C 4. not from prose 5. not American 6. not from a genre 7. from movies or television 8. created after 1960 9. created by an American or Americans 10. created before 1990 11. not from movies 12. created before 1975 13. from a live-action television series 14. not a main character 15. long-running TV show 16. on commercial TV 17. not set in contemporary times 18. from a sitcom 19. shown in syndication 20. won awards 21. not European 22. not originally broadcast in black-and-white 23. not Latin American or Native American 24. human ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/62 "2021-07-10T19:43:41Z")
DQ: recurring character? One DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/63 "2021-07-10T21:32:08Z")
Coming up empty so far. Non-contemporary sitcom starting between 1960-1975… M \* A \* S \* H - could be a non-American minor character - I thought about asking “Asian” for my last DQ, but wanted to rule out an animal Happy Days - I think they were all American. Certainly any **C** unningham was. Laverne & Shirley - started after 1975 When Things Were Rotten - not long running F-Troop - black & white, all American or native American characters. Flintstones/Jetsons - not live action Hopefully one of the remaining DQs will shed some light. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/64 "2021-07-10T22:25:19Z")
Until the “in color” part, I was thinking Mel Cooley from Dick Van Dyke Show. Carlton the doorman from Rhoda also came to mind, but he was IQd. Otherwise, I don’t have much TV knowledge pre-1975. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/65 "2021-07-10T23:46:19Z")
Hogan’s Heroes - but he’s not European Gilligan’s Island - maybe a one-shot Pacific Islander character? But no, contemporary. I Dream of Jeannie - somebody from the Middle East in one of the scenes from Jeannie’s history? Still nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/66 "2021-07-11T00:01:20Z")
C. 1. fictional 2. male 3. last name, as he’s nicknamed (and the only name by which he’s known), begins with C 4. not from prose 5. not American 6. not from a genre 7. from movies or television 8. created after 1960 9. created by an American or Americans 10. created before 1990 11. not from movies 12. created before 1975 13. from a live-action television series 14. not a main character 15. long-running TV show 16. on commercial TV 17. not set in contemporary times 18. from a sitcom 19. shown in syndication 20. won awards 21. not European 22. not originally broadcast in black-and-white 23. not Latin American or Native American 24. human 25. recurring character ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/67 "2021-07-11T01:25:44Z")
Was Agent 86 often apologizing to you? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/68 "2021-07-11T14:52:56Z")
C. 1. fictional 2. male 3. last name, as he’s nicknamed (and the only name by which he’s known), begins with C 4. not from prose 5. not American 6. not from a genre 7. from movies or television 8. created after 1960 9. created by an American or Americans 10. created before 1990 11. not from movies 12. created before 1975 13. from a live-action television series 14. not a main character 15. long-running TV show 16. on commercial TV 17. not set in contemporary times 18. from a sitcom 19. shown in syndication 20. won awards 21. not European 22. not originally broadcast in black-and-white 23. not Latin American or Native American 24. human 25. recurring character 26. Agent 86 was not often apologizing to me ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/69 "2021-07-11T15:45:01Z")
Final DQ: show set in the US? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/70 "2021-07-11T16:32:24Z")
C. 1. fictional 2. male 3. last name, as he’s nicknamed (and the only name by which he’s known), begins with C 4. not from prose 5. not American 6. not from a genre 7. from movies or television 8. created after 1960 9. created by an American or Americans 10. created before 1990 11. not from movies 12. created before 1975 13. from a live-action television series 14. not a main character 15. long-running TV show 16. on commercial TV 17. not set in contemporary times 18. from a sitcom 19. shown in syndication 20. won awards 21. not European 22. not originally broadcast in black-and-white 23. not Latin American or Native American 24. human 25. recurring character 26. Agent 86 was not often apologizing to me 27. show not set in the US Right. Please ask any earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by noon EST Tueday. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/71 "2021-07-11T17:30:37Z")
Well, everything seems to point to someone from _MASH_, but I can’t think of anyone who fits the criteria. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/72 "2021-07-11T20:10:28Z")
Yeah, I can only think of Ho Jon. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/73 "2021-07-12T02:19:38Z")
To restate it, we have a male fictional character introduced between 1960 and 1975 on a long-running period sitcom set outside the US (so likely _Hogan’s Heroes_ or _MASH_), who’s African, Asian, Australian, or Canadian, and known by a nickname the last word of which begins with C. The character may or may not actually appear in person on the show. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/74 "2021-07-12T02:44:39Z")
Nitpicking: he could be Oceanic, and his nickname is only one word that starts with a C. Color TV shows didn’t really start until the mid-60’s. And it’s a non-genre sitcom, which doesn’t add much. Beats me. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/75 "2021-07-12T13:09:20Z")
Could it be from one of the Sid and Marty Kroft shows? I don’t know if any won awards, but it’s the correct timeframe. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/76 "2021-07-12T13:22:58Z")
Yeah, but are those really sitcoms? They’re puppet shows for kids. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/77 "2021-07-12T13:58:34Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Yeah, but are those really sitcoms? They’re puppet shows for kids Which is why my guess is: are you Chaka from **Land of the Lost**? Because I am that bewildered. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/78 "2021-07-12T14:00:11Z")
I am not. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/79 "2021-07-12T14:22:24Z")
**Narrows eyes**. Sounds like something a sleestak would say. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874/80 "2021-07-12T17:39:57Z")
> [@MissTake](#): > > Could it be from one of the Sid and Marty Kroft shows? None of those were long running, though. I can’t remember any that lasted more than one or two seasons, although they were endlessly repackaged and reran throughout my 70s childhood. Even their most recognizable one, _H.R.Pufenstuff_, ran only a single season + a theatrical movie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2021/945874.md?page=5)