# Botticelli, July 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 1, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407 "2023-07-01T15:38:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 17

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/321 "2023-07-20T21:32:55Z")

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Aha! Good guess, **SMV**.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/322 "2023-07-21T03:50:54Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> In fact, I’m going to jump straight to my Firstname-Lastname guess: are you George Weasley?

Drat for a slow moving vehicle you move pretty fast. I was leaning in that direction but I wanted to see if my Harry Potter DQ came back positive before making the plunge. Alas he who hesitates is lost. Good Job SMV.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/323 "2023-07-21T11:25:32Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > In fact, I’m going to jump straight to my Firstname-Lastname guess: are you George Weasley?
> 
> Drat for a slow moving vehicle you move pretty fast. I was leaning in that direction but I wanted to see if my Harry Potter DQ came back positive before making the plunge. Alas he who hesitates is lost. Good Job SMV

I know, I feel a little guilty, as I was thinking it was Gaspode, from the Discworld novels, until you got me thinking about the Potterverse. I kinda stole this one out from under you.

Okay, I’ll start the next round in a couple of hours. Got to look at **EH** ’s list of letters and come up with a name. I promise, this next one won’t be quite so obscure as Ani DiFranco apparently was.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/324 "2023-07-21T14:14:17Z")

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Okay, here we go. I am:

[![](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1354262587/vector/letter-c-in-the-gothic-style-vector-alphabet-the-symbol-is-isolated-on-a-white-background.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=is&k=20&c=7gk0opSpDqJ5ixXsyhSctFRrm_qgV7TFTFGTVkcIoQg=) ](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1354262587/vector/letter-c-in-the-gothic-style-vector-alphabet-the-symbol-is-isolated-on-a-white-background.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=is&k=20&c=7gk0opSpDqJ5ixXsyhSctFRrm_qgV7TFTFGTVkcIoQg=)  
 Yay, it worked!

That’s a “ **C** ”, just for the record.

Also, I have quoted and updated @Elendil_s_Heir’s list of used letters as of July 21.

Fire away!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/325 "2023-07-21T14:18:54Z")

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Thanks, **SMV**.

IQs:

Do you have arguably the silliest alternative name of anyone in Middle-earth?  
Were you the Finches’ cook and housekeeper?  
Did Malcolm McDowell play you in a big-budget skin flick?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/326 "2023-07-21T15:10:55Z")

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IQs:

1. Does Jean LaFoote regularly attempt to steal your goods?
2. Do you court the vivacious Minnie Bannister on the highly acclaimed shallot-eating 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
3. Were you one of the Mamas and the Papas?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/327 "2023-07-21T15:54:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thanks, **SMV**
> 
> IQs:
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> Do you have arguably the silliest alternative name of anyone in Middle-earth?  
> Were you the Finches’ cook and housekeeper?  
> Did Malcolm McDowell play you in a big-budget skin flick?

1. I am not…hmm, Celeborn? Not an especially silly name, but I can’t think of any other _LOTR_ character with a “C”-name, except for What’s-’is-name the Shipwright, the dude at the Grey Havens. I’m sure I’m going to face-palm when you tell me the answer.

2. I am not Calpurnia.

3. I am not Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus Caligula.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> - Does Jean LaFoote regularly attempt to steal your goods?
> - Do you court the vivacious Minnie Bannister on the highly acclaimed shallot-eating 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
> - Were you one of the Mamas and the Papas?

1. DQ.

2. DQ.

3. I am not Mama Cass Elliot.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/328 "2023-07-21T15:57:58Z")

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Congrats, Vehicle!

IQs:  
1. Did you defend John Scopes?  
2. Did you play Jackie on _Doctor Who_?  
3. Did you create _Dick Tracy_?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/329 "2023-07-21T16:04:10Z")

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Swept me. Celeborn’s alternative name is Teleporno.

IQs:

Were you the only bearded Elf we know of in Middle-earth?  
Were you “the little drummer-boy of Shiloh”?  
Were you the first to fly across America, crash by crash?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/330 "2023-07-21T16:20:04Z")

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Congrats!

1. Were you writer Thorne Smith’s most famous character?
2. Are you the main character in Patricia Wrede’s book **Dealing with Dragons**?
3. Are you Judy Davis’s character in the movie **The Ref**?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/331 "2023-07-21T17:25:41Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> Congrats, Vehicle!
> 
> IQs:
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> 1. Did you defend John Scopes?
> 2. Did you play Jackie on _Doctor Who_?
> 3. Did you create _Dick Tracy_?

1. I am not Clarence Darrow.

2. Damn, I can picture her face, but I’ve never known the actress’ name. DQ.

3. I am not … Chester Gould? Take a DQ if I’m wrong.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Swept me. Celeborn’s alternative name is Teleporno.

_Snerk._ “Teleporno”, eh? Didn’t realize Lothlórien had the internet.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you the only bearded Elf we know of in Middle-earth?  
> Were you “the little drummer-boy of Shiloh”?  
> Were you the first to fly across America, crash by crash?

You’ve returned the favor. 3 DQs.

> [@kitap](#):
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> - Were you writer Thorne Smith’s most famous character?
> - Are you the main character in Patricia Wrede’s book **Dealing with Dragons**?
> - Are you Judy Davis’s character in the movie **The Ref**?

1. I am not…Thomas Covenant?
2. DQ.
3. DQ.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/332 "2023-07-21T17:43:17Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> 1. I am not Clarence Darrow.
> 2. Damn, I can picture her face, but I’ve never known the actress’ name. DQ.
> 3. I am not … Chester Gould? Take a DQ if I’m wrong.

1 was correct; 2 was Camille Codhuri; 3 was correct.

DQ: real?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/333 "2023-07-21T18:43:38Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > - Does Jean LaFoote regularly attempt to steal your goods?
> > - Do you court the vivacious Minnie Bannister on the highly acclaimed shallot-eating 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
> > - Were you one of the Mamas and the Papas?
> 
> 1. DQ.
> 2. DQ.
> 3. I am not Mama Cass Elliot.

#1 was Cap’n Crunch.  
#2 is Henry Crum!  
#3 is correct.

DQs:

1. Male?
2. Last name starts with C?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/334 "2023-07-21T18:46:32Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a rooster who appears in tales of Reynard the Fox?
2. Did you say “Big book, big evil”?
3. Did you play Coco in the movie _Fame_?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/335 "2023-07-21T18:48:28Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you the only bearded Elf we know of in Middle-earth? - Cirdan the Shipwright, to whom you alluded earlier  
Were you “the little drummer-boy of Shiloh”? - Johnny Clem: [John Clem - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Clem)  
Were you the first to fly across America, crash by crash? - The great Cal Rodgers: [Calbraith Perry Rodgers - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calbraith_Perry_Rodgers)

DQs:

American?

Two DQs reserved.

IQs:

Are you Mrs. Harrison Ford?  
Were you elected President in 1940 in _The Plot Against America_?  
Did the Mount Rushmore locals stock a lake for you to fish in?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/336 "2023-07-21T19:08:20Z")

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IQs:  
1. Were you a script doctor and author of _Delusions of Grandma_, and also acted?  
2. Do you wear red-and-white striped headgear, gloves, a bowtie, and nothing else?  
3. Were you a paleontologist and competitor of Othniel Marsh in the Bone Wars?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/337 "2023-07-21T19:56:05Z")

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IQ

1. DId you start as a character in an 80’s computer game designed to teach kids geography but ended up getting your own tv show?
2. Are you the main character in a move franchise that started with “Child’s Play”?
3. Did you prophesy the fall of Troy?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/338 "2023-07-21T20:14:15Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you a rooster who appears in tales of Reynard the Fox?
> 2. Did you say “Big book, big evil”?
> 3. Did you play Coco in the movie _Fame_?

1. I am not Chaunticleer.
2. DQ.
3. DQ.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you the only bearded Elf we know of in Middle-earth? - Cirdan the Shipwright, to whom you alluded earlier

I kinda suspected, after I posted my reply. The only other “C”-name I could think of was Celebrimbor, and I’m not even certain who exactly that is.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Are you Mrs. Harrison Ford?  
> Were you elected President in 1940 in _The Plot Against America_?  
> Did the Mount Rushmore locals stock a lake for you to fish in?

1. I am not Callista Flockhart.
2. DQ.
3. I am not…Crazy Horse? Probably not…

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> Were you a script doctor and author of _Delusions of Grandma_, and also acted?  
> 2. Do you wear red-and-white striped headgear, gloves, a bowtie, and nothing else?  
> 3. Were you a paleontologist and competitor of Othniel Marsh in the Bone Wars?

1. DQ.
2. I am not the Cat in the Hat.
3. I am not Henry Drinker Cope (whose war with O.C. Marsh I first read about here on the Dope).

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> 1. DId you start as a character in an 80’s computer game designed to teach kids geography but ended up getting your own tv show?
> 2. Are you the main character in a move franchise that started with “Child’s Play”?
> 3. Did you prophesy the fall of Troy?

1. I am not Carmen San Diego, nor do I know where in the world she is.
2. I am not Chucky.
3. I am not Cassandra.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/339 "2023-07-21T20:16:02Z")

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DQs:

1. Real.
2. Not male.
3. Surname begins with _C._
4. American.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/340 "2023-07-21T20:32:11Z")

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Previous IQs:

Are you Mrs. Harrison Ford? - Yes, Callista Flockhart  
Were you elected President in 1940 in _The Plot Against America_? - Charles Lindbergh  
Did the Mount Rushmore locals stock a lake for you to fish in? - President Calvin Coolidge

DQs:

Living?  
Best known for politics/military?

IQs:

Did you say you forgot your own name when you met your future spouse?  
Were you that spouse?  
Are you their best-known child?

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