# Botticelli, July 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 1, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407 "2023-07-01T15:38:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/21 "2023-07-02T16:05:04Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs::
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> 1. Were you the winner of the first season of _American Idol_?
> 2. Does Ryan Gosling play you in an upcoming summer blockbuster movie?
> 3. Are you secretly Batwoman?

#1 is Kelly Clarkson.  
#2 is Ken in the upcoming _Barbie_ movie.  
#3 is Kathy Kane. Selena’s Catwoman.

3 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/22 "2023-07-02T17:59:48Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Did you kill Harry Dresden?
> > 
> > 2. Are you a soccer player who’s here, who’s there, who’s fucking everywhere?
> > 
> > 3. Are you IQ2’s girlfriend?
> 
> Dunno, not the great Roy Kent of AFC Richmond, and not Keeley (sp?)

Correct on the last two, No. 1 was Kincaid, the Archive’s bodyguard from the Harry Dresden series. (It’s not really a spoiler, because he gets better.)

DQ: Known for the arts?

IQs:

1. Are you a brown girl from Jersey City who _does_ save the world, or parts of it, currently played by Iman Vellani?

2. Did you play a secretly-gay music teacher, inadvertantly outed in a former student’s Oscar speech?

3. Are you an iconic Australian folk hero, who met his death at the hands of the police in a homemade suit of armor?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/23 "2023-07-02T18:24:36Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> 1. Were you Ruggedo’s Chief Steward who later became the Nome King?
> 
> 2. Are you the dragon jouster formerly known as Vetch in Mercedes Lackey’s Dragon Jousters series?
> 
> 3. Are you a former child actress best known for the 1975 movie **Escape to Witch Mountain**?

Kaliko in the Oz series, Kiron, Kim Richards.

DQ: Still living?

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/24 "2023-07-02T20:22:47Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you a brown girl from Jersey City who _does_ save the world, or parts of it, currently played by Iman Vellani?
> 
> 2. Did you play a secretly-gay music teacher, inadvertantly outed in a former student’s Oscar speech?
> 
> 3. Are you an iconic Australian folk hero, who met his death at the hands of the police in a homemade suit of armor?

Dunno, not Kevin Kline (I thought he played a drama teacher in _In & Out_?), and not Ned Kelly.

K.

1. real
2. female
3. last name starts with K
4. known for the Arts
5. still living

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/25 "2023-07-02T22:15:10Z")

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DQs:

1. Actress?
2. Born before 1970?
3. American?

IQs:

1. Did Captain Jack Sparrow ask your character why the rum was gone?
2. Are you married to Doug Emhoff?
3. Did you write _Please Don’t Eat The Daisies_?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/26 "2023-07-02T22:44:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Are you a brown girl from Jersey City who _does_ save the world, or parts of it, currently played by Iman Vellani?
> > 
> > 2. Did you play a secretly-gay music teacher, inadvertantly outed in a former student’s Oscar speech?
> > 
> > 3. Are you an iconic Australian folk hero, who met his death at the hands of the police in a homemade suit of armor?
> 
> Dunno, not Kevin Kline (I thought he played a drama teacher in _In & Out_?), and not Ned Kelly
> 
> K.
> 
> 1. real
> 2. female
> 3. last name starts with K
> 4. known for the Arts
> 5. still living

Correct on Kevin Kline and Ned Kelly. I can’t remember if Kline played a drama teacher or music teacher, but _In & Out_ was indeed the role of which I was thinking. (And drama teacher does seem to make more sense for the plot.) No. 1 was Kamala Khan, Ms. Marvel.

1 DQ reserved.

IQs :

1. Were you bitterly disappointed that you didn’t get to go to Disneyland in 1959?

2. Did you modify the work of Copernicus to show that the planets’ orbits were elliptical, rather than perfectly circular?

3. Were you the director of research for GM, whose name is memorialized in one of the preeminent cancer-treating hospitals in the world? (Last name is sufficient).

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/27 "2023-07-03T15:41:27Z")

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IQ:

1. Were you literally kneecapped by your rival’s boyfriend?
2. Are you possibly Dr. Doom’s decedent from hundreds of years in the future?
3. Did your vision of a healthy life include abstinence, cold showers and lots of enemas?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/28 "2023-07-03T18:45:08Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> …  
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did Captain Jack Sparrow ask your character why the rum was gone?
> 2. Are you married to Doug Emhoff?
> 3. Did you write _Please Don’t Eat The Daisies_?

Not Killian, Vice President Kamala Harris or Kilgore Trout.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> …  
> IQs :
> 
> 1. Were you bitterly disappointed that you didn’t get to go to Disneyland in 1959?
> 
> 2. Did you modify the work of Copernicus to show that the planets’ orbits were elliptical, rather than perfectly circular?
> 
> 3. Were you the director of research for GM, whose name is memorialized in one of the preeminent cancer-treating hospitals in the world? (Last name is sufficient).

Not Dr. Henry Kissinger, dunno, and not Dr. Kettering.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> IQ:
> 
> 1. Were you literally kneecapped by your rival’s boyfriend?
> 2. Are you possibly Dr. Doom’s decedent from hundreds of years in the future?
> 3. Did your vision of a healthy life include abstinence, cold showers and lots of enemas?

Not Nancy Kerrigan, not Katastrophe (do you mean “descendant”?), and not Dr. K. Graham.

K.

1. real
2. female
3. last name starts with K
4. known for the Arts
5. still living
6. actress
7. born before 1970
8. American

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/29 "2023-07-03T19:22:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > 1. Were you literally kneecapped by your rival’s boyfriend?
> > 2. Are you possibly Dr. Doom’s decedent from hundreds of years in the future?
> > 3. Did your vision of a healthy life include abstinence, cold showers and lots of enemas?
> 
> Not Nancy Kerrigan, not Katastrophe (do you mean “descendant”?), and not Dr. K. Graham.

1. Correct
2. I don’t think so, I don’t know a marvel character named Katastrophe was thinking of Kang the conqueror.
3. Perhaps you are thinking of Sylvester Graham, but I was thinking of John Kellogg who was influenced by Graham ideas, but has a name beginning with K, and preferred flakes to crackers.

DQ

1. usually appears blond?
2. known primarily as a movie actress?

! DQ still reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/30 "2023-07-03T19:29:33Z")

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K.

1. real
2. female
3. last name starts with K
4. known for the Arts
5. still living
6. actress
7. born before 1970
8. American
9. per a Google Images search, she doesn’t usually appear blonde
10. YMMV, but I wouldn’t say she’s known primarily as a movie actress

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/31 "2023-07-03T19:45:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > …  
> > IQs :
> > 
> > 1. Were you bitterly disappointed that you didn’t get to go to Disneyland in 1959?
> > 
> > 2. Did you modify the work of Copernicus to show that the planets’ orbits were elliptical, rather than perfectly circular?
> > 
> > 3. Were you the director of research for GM, whose name is memorialized in one of the preeminent cancer-treating hospitals in the world? (Last name is sufficient).
> 
> Not Dr. Henry Kissinger, dunno, and not Dr. Kettering.

Right on Charles Kettering, although he wasn’t a doctor; he was a General Motors vice president and director of research, who agreed to oversee the creation of a cancer research institute “on industrial principles”, funded by a donation from his boss Alfred Sloan. No. 1 was Nikita Krushchev, and No. 2 was Johannes Kepler.

DQs:

1. Primarily known for comedic roles?

2. Primarily known for TV?

3. Considered a beauty?

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> IQ:
> 
> 1. Were you literally kneecapped by your rival’s boyfriend?

Damn, I was planning on using Nancy Kerrigan for my next series of IQs!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/32 "2023-07-03T20:06:20Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did Captain Jack Sparrow ask your character why the rum was gone?
> > 2. Are you married to Doug Emhoff?
> > 3. Did you write _Please Don’t Eat The Daisies_?
> 
> Not Killian, Vice President Kamala Harris or Kilgore Trout.

#1. Who’s Killian? Capt. Jack asked that question of Elizabeth Swann, played by Keira Knightley.  
#2. Correct.  
#3 was Jean Kerr.

DQs:

1. Born before 1950?
2. Still active?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/33 "2023-07-03T20:14:10Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> 1. Who’s Killian? Capt. Jack asked that question of Elizabeth Swann, played by Keira Knightley

Killian is Captain Jack Aubrey’s steward, in Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey-Maturin novels. I suspect that’s who **EH** had in mind.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/34 "2023-07-03T21:10:46Z")

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That’s Preserved Killick, not Killian. I thought the hard-drinking pirate with prodigious muttonchop side-whiskers in the _POTC_ movies was Killian.

K.

1. real
2. female
3. last name starts with K
4. known for the Arts
5. still living
6. actress
7. born before 1970
8. American
9. per a Google Images search, she doesn’t usually appear blonde
10. not known primarily as a movie actress
11. primarily known for comedic roles
12. primarily known for TV
13. not considered a beauty
14. born before 1950
15. still active

10-13 are all YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/35 "2023-07-03T21:17:35Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you play Jane Hathaway on _The Beverly Hillbillies_?
2. Are you the voice of Marge Simpson on _The Simpsons_?
3. Did you write a number of hit pop songs with Gerry Goffin?

Did you mean Sparrow’s mate Mr. Gibbs?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/36 "2023-07-03T21:31:13Z")

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Dunno, dunno (although I should know that) and dunno.

Yes! Gibbs it is. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/37 "2023-07-03T21:46:24Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> That’s Preserved Killick, not Killian. I thought the hard-drinking pirate with prodigious muttonchop side-whiskers in the _POTC_ movies was Killian.

You’re absolutely right, and I’m as embarrassed as a debauched sloth to have misremembered

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/38 "2023-07-03T21:53:58Z")

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Think no more of it, my dear fellow. Now come, the bottle stands by you, sir!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/39 "2023-07-03T22:40:01Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you play Jane Hathaway on _The Beverly Hillbillies_?
> 2. Are you the voice of Marge Simpson on _The Simpsons_?
> 3. Did you write a number of hit pop songs with Gerry Goffin?

#1 was Nancy Kulp.  
#2 is Julie Kavner. (I thought for sure that was it.)  
#3 is Carole King.

3 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407/40 "2023-07-04T00:33:25Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you one of a number of people famous for no one really knowing why you’re famous? (Multiple answers accepted)

2. Have you appeared in two documentaries, one in your capacity as a historian, and the other in your capacity as a Red Sox fan?

3. Are you the filmmaker who made those documentaries?

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