# Botticelli - July 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 2, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634 "2024-07-02T14:59:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/81 "2024-07-12T14:18:00Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Living
4. First name begins with E
5. Known for the Arts
6. Not known for literature
7. Born before 1980
8. Caucasian
9. Known for the performing Arts
10. American
11. Born after 1950
12. Considered a beauty
13. Nominated for a top award, but didn’t win
14. Last name begins with A - M
15. Known for acting
16. Born before 1965
17. Best known for movies
18. Has done genre work, but is not best known for it
19. First name begins with Ea - El
20. First name is Elizabeth or Ellen

Please ask all remaining DQs by 6pm EDT tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/82 "2024-07-12T15:03:49Z")

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Last DQ: First name is Ellen?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/83 "2024-07-12T17:53:26Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Living
4. First name begins with E
5. Known for the Arts
6. Not known for literature
7. Born before 1980
8. Caucasian
9. Known for the performing Arts
10. American
11. Born after 1950
12. Considered a beauty
13. Nominated for a top award, but didn’t win
14. Last name begins with A - M
15. Known for acting
16. Born before 1965
17. Best known for movies
18. Has done genre work, but is not best known for it
19. First name begins with Ea - El
20. First name is Elizabeth or Ellen
21. First name is Ellen

Please ask all remaining DQs by 6pm EDT tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/84 "2024-07-13T03:04:04Z")

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Hmm, I can’t think of any Ellen who fits these clues.

Previous IQs:

Did you wield Stormbringer? - Yes, Elric of Melniboné  
Did the murder victim in Michael Chabon’s _The Yiddish Policemen’s Union_ go by this name? - Emmanuel Lasker  
Have you played an Australian cavalry lieutenant, a tough guy who helps the helpless, and a villager with a knack for electronic surveillance? - The great Edward Woodward, in _Breaker Morant, The Equalizer_ and _Hot Fuzz_

I yield my two earned DQs, one per customer, to other players.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/85 "2024-07-13T07:32:43Z")

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DQ:

1. Was in a cult movie with a ridiculous name playing Peter Weller’s character’s girlfriend?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/86 "2024-07-13T14:06:04Z")

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Yes! I am

# Ellen Barkin,

[![](https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/6326333/1118full-ellen-barkin.jpg) ](https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/6326333/1118full-ellen-barkin.jpg)

best known for her roles in _Diner_, _Switch_ and as Penny Pretty in _The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai across the 8th Dimension_!

Nicely done, **kitap!**

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/87 "2024-07-13T22:19:11Z")

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Good one!

The next letter is

P

Yes, **P**

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/88 "2024-07-13T22:53:53Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the Rainbow’s Daughter in the Oz books?
2. In the Oz books did you discover the Powder of Life?
3. Were you one of the major actors in the highly acclaimed, ellipson-shaped, radar-impregnated, solid steel 1950’s BBC radio series, _The Goon Show_?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/89 "2024-07-13T23:19:48Z")

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I am not Polychrome, I am not someone whose name I should know but do not remember, and take a second DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/90 "2024-07-14T02:04:05Z")

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Aw, should have thought of her! I love _Buckaroo Banzai_. Well done, **kitap**.

On to P.

IQs:

Were you First Speaker of the Second Foundation?  
Were you Dr. Bowman’s shipmate?  
Were you a cute little dog belonging to a young aardvark?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/91 "2024-07-14T02:10:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you First Speaker of the Second Foundation?  
> Were you Dr. Bowman’s shipmate?  
> Were you a cute little dog belonging to a young aardvark?

Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/92 "2024-07-14T02:17:07Z")

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Preem Palver (Asimov’s _Second Foundation_), Dr. Frank Poole (_2001: A Space Odyssey_) and Pal (on PBS’s kids’ show _Arthur_)

DQs:

Male?  
Real?  
Last name starts with P?

IQs:

Were you a presidential candidate in the first season of _24_?  
Were you Brett’s immediate superior?  
Were you Capt. Archer’s dog?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/93 "2024-07-14T02:24:26Z")

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That was a great one, **kitap**. I was trying to decide whether to guess Ellen Green or Ellen Foley, but neither seemed to quite fit.

IQs:

1. Did you start the Civil War at Island No. 10 and end it in Minnesota?
2. Were you court-martialed for disobeying #1s orders in the battle of Second Bull Run?
3. Were you taken to Narnia by a friend who felt you needed cheering up at school?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/94 "2024-07-14T02:49:27Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Preem Palver (Asimov’s _Second Foundation_), Dr. Frank Poole (_2001: A Space Odyssey_) and Pal (on PBS’s kids’ show _Arthur_)
> 
> DQs:
> 
> Male?  
> Real?  
> Last name starts with P?
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Were you a presidential candidate in the first season of _24_?  
> Were you Brett’s immediate superior?  
> Were you Capt. Archer’s dog?

I am not David Palmer? Or take a DQ. Heck, take 2 more.

> [@SunUp](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you start the Civil War at Island No. 10 and end it in Minnesota?
> 2. Were you court-martialed for disobeying #1s orders in the battle of Second Bull Run?
> 3. Were you taken to Narnia by a friend who felt you needed cheering up at school?

Take 3 DQs. I think #3 is Jill but do not reme!ber her surname.

She was the only non-De Generis Ellen I could think of.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/95 "2024-07-14T02:51:00Z")

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I Am P:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Last name does not begin with P.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/96 "2024-07-14T02:55:52Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a presidential candidate in the first season of _24_? - Yes, David Palmer  
Were you Brett’s immediate superior? - Parker, in _Alien_  
Were you Capt. Archer’s dog? - Porthos, on _Star Trek: Enterprise_

DQs:

Political/military?  
American?

IQs:

Were you “Trainer to the Gods” in Disney’s _Hercules_?  
Did you write one of the best-known books on tort law?  
Did you command mortar boats on Western rivers during the Civil War?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/97 "2024-07-14T02:58:29Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
>
> Take 3 DQs. I think #3 is Jill but do not reme!ber her surname.
> 
> She was the only non-De Generis Ellen I could think of.

#1 was Major General John Pope; #2 was Major General Fitz-John Porter, and #3 was Jill Pole so I’ll just take 2 DQs since you got the character right.

DQs:

Living?  
Born before 1965?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/98 "2024-07-14T03:20:04Z")

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Congrats, Kitap!

IQs:  
1. Were you the eleventh president of the United States?  
2. Did you write the “Ripliad”?  
3. Was your work showcased in _The Puppetoon Movie_?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/99 "2024-07-14T05:17:32Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Were you “Trainer to the Gods” in Disney’s _Hercules_?  
> Did you write one of the best-known books on tort law?  
> Did you command mortar boats on Western rivers during the Civil War?

I am not Panic and take 2 DQs.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> Congrats, Kitap!
> 
> IQs:  
> 1. Were you the eleventh president of the United States?  
> 2. Did you write the “Ripliad”?  
> 3. Was your work showcased in _The Puppetoon Movie_?

1. I am not… Oh, shoot. Stupid chemo brain. Take a DQ.  
Take 2 more DQs.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634/100 "2024-07-14T05:26:23Z")

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I Am P:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Last name does not begin with P.
4. Not known for the military/Politics.
5. Not American
6. Living
7. Born after 1965.

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