# Botticelli, July 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 2, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412 "2025-07-02T17:50:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 19

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/361 "2025-07-26T01:02:13Z")

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DQ: From science fiction or fantasy?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/362 "2025-07-26T01:03:43Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional  
2. Male  
3. Known, though not best known, from prose  
4. Only known name starts with T  
5. Not a main character  
6. Not created after 1930  
7. American creator(s)  
8. Created after 1900  
9. Character is human  
10. American character  
11. Appeared in several movies, the most recent 100 years after the first

13. **Not** originally considered a “good guy”

14. From a genre  
15. Caucasian  
16. Originally from prose

Note correction to DQ12.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/363 "2025-07-26T03:12:07Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional  
2. Male  
3. Known, though not best known, from prose  
4. Only known name starts with T  
5. Not a main character  
6. Not created after 1930  
7. American creator(s)  
8. Created after 1900  
9. Character is human  
10. American character  
11. Appeared in several movies, the most recent 100 years after the first

12. **Not** originally considered a “good guy”

13. From a genre  
14. Caucasian  
15. Originally from prose  
16. Not from science fiction or fantasy

Note correction to DQ12.

DLR has two remaining DQs, knoodler has three

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/364 "2025-07-26T05:28:45Z")

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DQ:

Name begins with Ta-Tl?  
Known from mystery genre?

1 DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/365 "2025-07-26T16:55:50Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional  
2. Male  
3. Known, though not best known, from prose  
4. Only known name starts with T  
5. Not a main character  
6. Not created after 1930  
7. American creator(s)  
8. Created after 1900  
9. Character is human  
10. American character  
11. Appeared in several movies, the most recent 100 years after the first  
12. Not originally considered a “good guy”  
13. From a genre  
14. Caucasian  
15. Originally from prose  
16. Not from science fiction or fantasy  
17. Name does not begin with Ta-Tl  
18. Not known from mystery genre  
  
DLR has two remaining DQs, knoodler has one. Please ask them by 6:00 EDT pm today (Sat 26 Jul).

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/366 "2025-07-26T17:11:13Z")

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DQ: film with most recent appearance was remake of film 100 years earlier?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/367 "2025-07-26T17:22:16Z")

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Last DQ: Known from comedy or romance genre?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/368 "2025-07-26T17:30:29Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional  
2. Male  
3. Known, though not best known, from prose  
4. Only known name starts with T  
5. Not a main character  
6. Not created after 1930  
7. American creator(s)  
8. Created after 1900  
9. Character is human  
10. American character  
11. Appeared in several movies, the most recent 100 years after the first  
12. Not originally considered a “good guy”  
13. From a genre  
14. Caucasian  
15. Originally from prose  
16. Not from science fiction or fantasy  
17. Name does not begin with Ta-Tl  
18. Not known from mystery genre  
19. Going by the description at IMDb, most recent movie only vaguely resembles movie 100 years earlier (same title, but major differences in characters and story)  
20. Not known from comedy or romance genre

DLR has one remaining DQ. Please ask it by 6:00 EDT pm today (Sat 26 Jul).

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/369 "2025-07-26T19:35:25Z")

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Maybe a western?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/370 "2025-07-26T20:26:13Z")

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Final DQ: from an adventure movie?

I dunno. Appearing in movies 100 years apart implies that the first appearance was in a silent movie (since the first movie would be from at most 1925), but I can’t think of anything that fits.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/371 "2025-07-26T20:53:49Z")

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_Nosferatu_ would work as the movie, but I have no idea of a character who would qualify.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/372 "2025-07-26T21:04:11Z")

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_Nosferatu_ would work as the movie except neither it nor the original source material are by Americans.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/373 "2025-07-26T21:05:16Z")

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Oh, right. Duh.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/374 "2025-07-26T21:07:57Z")

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I can only think.of Tonto but he was Native Americqn.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/375 "2025-07-26T21:08:27Z")

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And from radio and agood guy.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/376 "2025-07-26T21:17:29Z")

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All I’m coming up with is Zorro, The Cabinet of Dr, Caligari and The Student Prince.

But no characters.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/377 "2025-07-26T21:17:58Z")

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Oh,and The Thief of Baghdad.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/378 "2025-07-26T21:30:23Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional  
2. Male  
3. Known, though not best known, from prose  
4. Only known name starts with T  
5. Not a main character  
6. Not created after 1930  
7. American creator(s)  
8. Created after 1900  
9. Character is human  
10. American character  
11. Appeared in several movies, the most recent 100 years after the first  
12. Not originally considered a “good guy”  
13. From a genre  
14. Caucasian  
15. Originally from prose  
16. Not from science fiction or fantasy  
17. Name does not begin with Ta-Tl  
18. Not known from mystery genre  
19. Going by the description at IMDb, most recent movie only vaguely resembles movie 100 years earlier (same title, but major differences in characters and story)  
20. Not known from comedy or romance genre  
21. Not from an adventure story

Please ask your Firstname Lastname DQs by 11:00 pm EDT tomorrow (Sun 27 Jul).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/379 "2025-07-26T21:57:20Z")

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Hmm. This is a toughie. Right now, I’m drawing a blank.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/380 "2025-07-27T05:28:32Z")

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Is Western the only genre left?

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