# Botticelli, July 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 2, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412 "2025-07-02T17:50:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/381 "2025-07-27T12:07:25Z")

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There’s spy/thriller and young adult.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/382 "2025-07-27T12:33:35Z")

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Historical fiction, horror…

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/383 "2025-07-27T19:12:36Z")

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Anything from Lovecraft?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/384 "2025-07-27T20:26:28Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> There’s spy/thriller and young adult.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Historical fiction, horror…

Also war and (the admittedly vague genre of) drama.

Can’t be Lovecraft, there weren’t any movies based on his works a hundred years apart.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/385 "2025-07-27T20:36:19Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> Can’t be Lovecraft, there weren’t any movies based on his works a hundred years apart.

I have a valid guess as to the movie but I’ll withhold revealing it because I had to google it.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/386 "2025-07-27T21:08:33Z")

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Six hours.

No guesses yet? Not even a “Pass”?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/387 "2025-07-27T21:16:51Z")

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Ho-kay, Pass.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/388 "2025-07-28T02:08:50Z")

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Yeah, me too. I’m stumped.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/389 "2025-07-28T02:36:36Z")

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I’ve got nothing. Either it’s a silent movie I haven’t heard of or I’ll be kicking myself for not getting it.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/390 "2025-07-28T03:06:11Z")

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Well. I half expected Prof P to be all over this after kitap mentioned Westerns.

I am **Trampas** , a "bad guy\* in Owen Wister’s novel _The Virginian_ (1902) and six movies/tv-movies based on it (1914, 1923, 1929, 1946, 2000, and 2014), but a “good guy” in the NBC TV series (1962-1971) .

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/391 "2025-07-28T06:25:11Z")

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I’ve heard of **The Virginian** but not him.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/392 "2025-07-28T13:33:27Z")

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“Smile when you say that.”

I didn’t watch many westerns growing up. _Sky King, Roy Rogers, Zorro, The Lone Ranger, Death Valley Days, Wild Wild West_, but _The Virginian_ was popular for a long time, and I have heard of Trampas.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/393 "2025-07-28T13:34:05Z")

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Never heard of him.

(I _have_ heard of _The Virginian_, but only from the “When you call me that, smile!” line.)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/394 "2025-07-28T21:49:22Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> I’ve heard of **The Virginian** but not him.

Likewise.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/395 "2025-07-28T22:24:37Z")

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That makes three of us.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/396 "2025-07-29T11:58:37Z")

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Sorry about the delay – fell asleep early for a change.

I am **Q**.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/397 "2025-07-29T13:22:10Z")

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**Q** it is!

1. Do you have a significant meaning to a fictional TV investigator?
2. Are you the third person to assume this title from both a movie and television series?
3. Did you hold a job that your namesake father held before you?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/398 "2025-07-29T13:27:40Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you secretly El Kabong?
2. Did you play the daughter in _The Goodbye Girl_?
3. Did you direct _Pulp Fiction_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/399 "2025-07-29T13:28:09Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> **Q** it is!
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> 1. Do you have a significant meaning to a fictional TV investigator?
> 2. Are you the third person to assume this title from both a movie and television series?
> 3. Did you hold a job that your namesake father held before you?

Let’s start with three DQs.

(BTW, had you heard of Trampas or _The Virginian_ before yesterday?)

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/400 "2025-07-29T13:31:01Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> BTW, had you heard of Trampas or _The Virginian_ before yesterday?)

I don’t recall. It’s been many years since I last watched the show.

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