# Botticelli, July 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 2, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412 "2025-07-02T17:50:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/81 "2025-07-08T02:27:12Z")

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# P

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not known for the arts
4. Last name starts with P
5. Alive
6. Not known for military/political
7. Not American
8. Born after 1970
9. First name begins with A-M

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/82 "2025-07-08T12:36:34Z")

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DQ: European?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/83 "2025-07-08T13:14:42Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > 1. Are you the son of a king who sparked one of the greatest wars in history?
> > 2. Was your name incapable of pronunciation?
> > 3. Are you the alter ego of Wonder Warthog?
> 
> Take a DQ.  
> I am not… Phsstpok? (from _Protector_)  
> Take another DQ.

Paris, son of Priam, King of Troy  
Prince Rogers Nelson, aka Prince, who briefly went by “The Artist Formerly Known As Prince” using a symbol (“Love Sign #2”)  
Philbert Desanex

DQs:

Born after 1990?  
Known for prose?

1 DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/84 "2025-07-08T13:25:19Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you Captain Aubrey’s sharp-tongued steward?
2. Do you and your friend often tease Charlie Brown?
3. Are you “on your own”, presumably to market your sweet potato pie?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/85 "2025-07-08T13:26:04Z")

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IQs:  
1. Did you, your dog Brain, and your uncle foil the schemes of Dr. Claw?  
2. Did you play Zelda Fitzgerald in _Midnight in Paris_?  
3. Did your wife Amelia famously vanish flying a plane in 1937?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/86 "2025-07-08T13:40:43Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you First Speaker of the Second Foundation? - Yes, Preem Palver  
Were you given command of the captured French privateer _Acheron_? - Lt. Tom Pullings, in the movie _Master and Commander_  
Did you rescue a mistreated animal nicknamed Sherry in a YA novel? - Paul Revere, in Robert Lawson’s excellent _Mr. Revere and I_

Two DQs reserved.

**knoodler** , we already know the dude is not known for the arts. Do you still wish to ask about whether he’s known for prose?

IQs:

Did Jackie Gleason use this fake name for his character in _The Sting II_?  
Were you the first presidential candidate to appear on _24_?  
Did Beth Smith shoot you and then immediately regret it on _Rick and Morty_?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/87 "2025-07-08T19:08:44Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> - Are you Captain Aubrey’s sharp-tongued steward?
> - Do you and your friend often tease Charlie Brown?
> - Are you “on your own”, presumably to market your sweet potato pie?

Take a DQ.  
I am not Peppermint Patty.  
Take another DQ.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Did you, your dog Brain, and your uncle foil the schemes of Dr. Claw?
> 2. Did you play Zelda Fitzgerald in _Midnight in Paris_?
> 3. Did your wife Amelia famously vanish flying a plane in 1937?

I am not Pinky.  
Take a DQ.  
I am not… Paul Earhart?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did Jackie Gleason use this fake name for his character in _The Sting II_?  
> Were you the first presidential candidate to appear on _24_?  
> Did Beth Smith shoot you and then immediately regret it on _Rick and Morty_?

Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/88 "2025-07-08T19:10:13Z")

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# P

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not known for the arts
4. Last name starts with P
5. Alive
6. Not known for military/political
7. Not American
8. Born after 1970
9. First name begins with A-M
10. Not born in Europe, but has worked and lived there the majority of his life
11. Born before 1990

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/89 "2025-07-08T19:33:52Z")

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You missed my other DQ: Known from prose?

> [@SunUp](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
> >
> > - Are you Captain Aubrey’s sharp-tongued steward?
> > - Do you and your friend often tease Charlie Brown?
> > - Are you “on your own”, presumably to market your sweet potato pie?
> 
> Take a DQ.  
> I am not Peppermint Patty.  
> Take another DQ.

Preserved Killick  
I was thinking of the other Patty, friend of Violet, but yours is also true  
Patti LaBelle

3 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/90 "2025-07-08T20:04:09Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1. Did you, your dog Brain, and your uncle foil the schemes of Dr. Claw?  
> 2. Did you play Zelda Fitzgerald in _Midnight in Paris_?  
> 3. Did your wife Amelia famously vanish flying a plane in 1937?

> [@SunUp](#):
>
> I am not Pinky.  
> Take a DQ.  
> I am not… Paul Earhart?

1 was Penny, on _Inspector Gadget_; 2 was Alison Pill; 3 was George Putnam.

DQs:  
1. known for science?  
2. best known as a European?  
3. born before 1980?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/91 "2025-07-08T21:38:49Z")

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Should I use my powers of invisibility for good or evil? 🤔

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> **knoodler** , we already know the dude is not known for the arts. Do you still wish to ask about whether he’s known for prose?

> [@knoodler](#):
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> You missed my other DQ: Known from prose?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/92 "2025-07-08T21:45:53Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did Jackie Gleason use this fake name for his character in _The Sting II_? - Trevor Plantagenet (always loved that name!)  
Were you the first presidential candidate to appear on _24_? - David Palmer  
Did Beth Smith shoot you and then immediately regret it on _Rick and Morty_? - Mr. Poopybutthole (yes, I know)

DQs:

Greatest fame before 2000?  
Best known for a single incident?

Three DQs reserved.

IQs:

Were you Brett’s boss aboard the USCSS _Nostromo_?  
Were you “trainer to the gods” in Disney’s _Hercules_?  
Did you marry a Churchill and later a Harriman?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/93 "2025-07-08T23:51:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
> >
> > **knoodler** , we already know the dude is not known for the arts. Do you still wish to ask about whether he’s known for prose?
> 
> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > You missed my other DQ: Known from prose?

No. I thought prose was different.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/94 "2025-07-09T00:59:48Z")

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Fictional and biographical writing are considered part of the Arts, yes.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/95 "2025-07-09T01:07:57Z")

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IQ1: Did you travel with Frito and Stomper?  
IQ2: Were you a boy scout who originally appeared in a series of novels, and then became a fixture in a magazine?  
IQ3: Are you the star of a few thousand SF stories?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/96 "2025-07-09T01:20:04Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you Pocahantas’s papa?
2. In the Oz books were you the Rainbow’s daughter?
3. Are you the eldest child in a book series by Margaret Sidney?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/97 "2025-07-09T01:40:26Z")

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IQs:  
1. Were you Goofy’s neighbor on _Goof Troop_?  
2. Were _you_ Goofy’s neighbor on _Goof Troop_?  
3. Were you either of their kids?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/98 "2025-07-09T01:41:01Z")

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# P

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not known for the arts
4. Last name starts with P
5. Alive
6. Not known for military/political
7. Not American
8. Born after 1970
9. First name begins with A-M
10. Not born in Europe, but has worked and lived there the majority of his life
11. Born before 1990
12. Not known for science
13. Born before 1980
14. Greatest fame after 2000
15. Not best known for a single incident

I’m not sure how to answer “best known as a European?” He’s known by his nationality of birth (and citizenship); although, as I said above, he’s worked and lived in Europe most of his life, and is best known for what he’s done in Europe. Does that answer the question?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/99 "2025-07-09T01:50:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you Brett’s boss aboard the USCSS _Nostromo_?  
> Were you “trainer to the gods” in Disney’s _Hercules_?  
> Did you marry a Churchill and later a Harriman?

I am not Parker.  
Take a DQ.  
I am not Pamela Digby Churchill Harriman.

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Q1: Did you travel with Frito and Stomper?  
> IQ2: Were you a boy scout who originally appeared in a series of novels, and then became a fixture in a magazine?  
> IQ3: Are you the star of a few thousand SF stories?

I am not Pepsi.  
Take 2 DQs.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you Pocahantas’s papa?
> 2. In the Oz books were you the Rainbow’s daughter?
> 3. Are you the eldest child in a book series by Margaret Sidney?

I am not Powhatan.  
I am not Polychrome.  
Take a DQ.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Were you Goofy’s neighbor on _Goof Troop_?
> 2. Were _you_ Goofy’s neighbor on _Goof Troop_?
> 3. Were you either of their kids?

Swept me. Take 3 DQs.

And that’s it for the IQs, folks. We have a lot of DQs out there, so I’ll leave it open until noon EDT Thursday, July 10.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2025/1020412/100 "2025-07-09T15:59:07Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
> >
> > Q1: Did you travel with Frito and Stomper?  
> > IQ2: Were you a boy scout who originally appeared in a series of novels, and then became a fixture in a magazine?  
> > IQ3: Are you the star of a few thousand SF stories?
> 
> I am not Pepsi.  
> Take 2 DQs.

correct  
Pee Wee Harris  
Perry Rhodan

Australian?  
Two DQs reserved.

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