# Botticelli – July 2026

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 30, 2026, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301 "2026-06-30T15:08:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/181 "2026-07-11T19:13:21Z")

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First appeared before 1900?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2026, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/182 "2026-07-11T19:43:27Z")

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E

1. fictional  
2. first name begins with E  
3. female  
4. did not first appear in prose  
5. American creator  
6. did not first appear in film or on TV  
7. not a main character  
8. American character  
9. first appeared in a theatrical production  
10. creator is dead  
11. first appeared before 1970  
12. is married, but insufficient information to say that counts as a love interest  
13. theatrical performance featured music  
14. did not first appear before 1900

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/183 "2026-07-12T03:37:47Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you Bella S.'s sparkly sweetie? - Edward Cullen, in the _Twilight_ novels and movies  
Did the actor who played you have the name of his costar in that movie tattooed on him? - Edward Scissorhands (as to Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder)  
Were you Lincoln’s first AG? - Edward Bates

Edward x3!

DQs:

Appeared in at least one movie?  
Considered a beauty?  
Married to a main character?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/184 "2026-07-12T17:05:17Z")

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E

1. fictional  
2. first name begins with E  
3. female  
4. did not first appear in prose  
5. American creator  
6. did not first appear in film or on TV  
7. not a main character  
8. American character  
9. first appeared in a theatrical production  
10. creator is dead  
11. first appeared before 1970  
12. is married, but insufficient information to say that counts as a love interest  
13. theatrical performance featured music  
14. did not first appear before 1900  
15. appeared in at least one movie  
16. not considered a beauty  
17. not married to a main character

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/185 "2026-07-12T17:22:30Z")

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By my count, @De_La_Rue and @knoodler each have two remaining DQs, and @kitap has one.

A bit over six and a half hours to go.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/186 "2026-07-12T17:45:51Z")

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DQ: from _The Music Man_ or _Oklahoma_?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/187 "2026-07-12T18:02:53Z")

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I don’t believe I do.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/188 "2026-07-12T18:19:34Z")

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I will yield my two DQs to someone else.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/189 "2026-07-12T18:34:55Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> I don’t believe I do.

Post 159.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> > [@kitap](#):
> >
> > Qs:
> > 
> > 1. Did you write **The Moffats**?
> > 2. Did you write **The Wonderful Flight to the Mushroom Planet**?
> > 3. Did you write **The Time Garden**?
> 
> Not Eleanor Estes  
> DQ (pretty sure that’s E Cameron, but can’t remember her first name)  
> Not Edward Eager

Don’t see where you’ve asked it.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/190 "2026-07-12T18:36:25Z")

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E

1. fictional  
2. first name begins with E  
3. female  
4. did not first appear in prose  
5. American creator  
6. did not first appear in film or on TV  
7. not a main character  
8. American character  
9. first appeared in a theatrical production  
10. creator is dead  
11. first appeared before 1970  
12. is married, but insufficient information to say that counts as a love interest  
13. theatrical performance featured music  
14. did not first appear before 1900  
15. appeared in at least one movie  
16. not considered a beauty  
17. not married to a main character  
18. from _The Music Man_ or _Oklahoma_

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/191 "2026-07-12T20:23:15Z")

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Final DQ: from a musical with a US state! in the title?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/192 "2026-07-12T22:04:52Z")

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Hmmm. Haven’t seen either. Anyone want my DQ?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/193 "2026-07-12T22:33:50Z")

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I’m not familiar with either of those musicals.

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/194 "2026-07-12T22:41:33Z")

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I’m pretty sure I know who it is. But I can’t construct a suitable DQ.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/195 "2026-07-13T02:09:08Z")

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E

1. fictional  
2. first name begins with E  
3. female  
4. did not first appear in prose  
5. American creator  
6. did not first appear in film or on TV  
7. not a main character  
8. American character  
9. first appeared in a theatrical production  
10. creator is dead  
11. first appeared before 1970  
12. is married, but insufficient information to say that counts as a love interest  
13. theatrical performance featured music  
14. did not first appear before 1900  
15. appeared in at least one movie  
16. not considered a beauty  
17. not married to a main character  
18. from _The Music Man_ or _Oklahoma_  
19. not from a musical with a US state! in the title

Apologies for the delay – I will chide this book for having made me return so late!

“Firstname Lastname” DQs – ask 'em if you’ve got 'em

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/196 "2026-07-13T08:39:40Z")

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When I claimed I knew who it was, I was sure it was Aunt Eller. But the last DQ disproved that theory.

So now I think it’s the Mayor’s wife in _The Music Man_, but if I need her actual name, I don’t think I know it.

But De La Rue deserves the credit if I’m right, I was just flailing in the too broad region of theater.

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/197 "2026-07-13T12:16:59Z")

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Against all expectations, a name has popped into my head.

Are you Eulalie McKenzie Peck?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/198 "2026-07-13T13:18:02Z")

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> [@Eureka](#):
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> Are you Eulalie McKenzie Peck?

Close enough. Yes, I am **Eulalie Mackecknie Shinn** , wife of River City’s mayor, George Shinn.

@De_La_Rue, what led you to ask about those two specific musicals?

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/199 "2026-07-13T13:18:16Z")

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Or Shim?, rather.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2026/1031301/200 "2026-07-13T14:03:54Z")

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Lucky guess. I was thinking Aunt Eller as well, but also the yearly spring musicals we did in middle school, and _The Music Man_ seemed more likely than _Oliver!_, _Guys and Dolls_, _South Pacific_, or _Cinderella_.

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