# Botticelli, June 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 5, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366 "2011-06-05T04:05:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/301 "2011-06-15T14:03:37Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> :: raises eyebrow at **Tom Scud** ::
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> DQ: American?

No, not American.

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born in 19th century
4. Not a political figure
5. An author, not well known for anything else.
6. Not American

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/302 "2011-06-15T14:07:34Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> :: raises eyebrow at **Tom Scud** ::
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> IQ: Were you a Penna. congressman from the Gettysburg area who hated, hated, hated Andrew Johnson?

No, I’m not Thaddeus Stephens.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/303 "2011-06-15T14:15:47Z")

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Did you write a critical essay in which you pronounced William Shakespeare’s works to be completely worthless?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/304 "2011-06-15T14:16:49Z")

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IQ: As a young man, did you see former Confederate President Jefferson Davis taken in irons through your hometown?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/305 "2011-06-15T14:26:37Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Did you write a critical essay in which you pronounced William Shakespeare’s works to be completely worthless?

No, I am not Leo Tolstoy (a shame when one great artist can’t appreciate another).

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/306 "2011-06-15T14:27:38Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: As a young man, did you see former Confederate President Jefferson Davis taken in irons through your hometown?

No idea- Ask a DQ

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/307 "2011-06-15T14:32:29Z")

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IQ: Were you a South African-born veteran of World War I?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/308 "2011-06-15T15:37:33Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> IQ: Were you a South African-born veteran of World War I?

No, I am not JRR Tolkien (you think I’d go for someone THAT easy? On THIS board???)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/309 "2011-06-15T15:40:46Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> No, I am not JRR Tolkien (you think I’d go for someone THAT easy? On THIS board???)

Worth eliminating the possibility.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/310 "2011-06-15T15:59:08Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: As a young man, did you see former Confederate President Jefferson Davis taken in irons through your hometown?

Thomas Woodrow Wilson.

DQ: European?

IQ: Were you called, by some, the Father of the Hydrogen Bomb?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/311 "2011-06-15T16:01:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thomas Woodrow Wilson.
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> DQ: European?
> 
> IQ: Were you called, by some, the Father of the Hydrogen Bomb?

No I am not Edward Teller

Yes, I am European

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born in 19th century
4. Not a political figure
5. An author, not well known for anything else.
6. European

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/312 "2011-06-15T16:12:04Z")

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IQ: Were you considered by Henry Kissinger to be one of the greatest diplomats of the 19th century?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/313 "2011-06-15T16:28:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Were you considered by Henry Kissinger to be one of the greatest diplomats of the 19th century?

No, I am not Talleyrand.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/314 "2011-06-15T16:45:21Z")

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IQ: Was Georges Sand sick to death of Chopin hanging out with you because your depressive Russian temperament brought out Chopin’s depressive Polish temperament?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/315 "2011-06-15T16:59:18Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Was Georges Sand sick to death of Chopin hanging out with you because your depressive Russian temperament brought out Chopin’s depressive Polish temperament?

Hmmm… I’ve never heard this anecdote, but I strongly suspect you’re on the verge of solving this one.

So, ask a more blunt, obvious question and you may be the winner.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/316 "2011-06-15T17:12:07Z")

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IQ: Despite your name, is there no evidence that you ever actually took money for sex?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/317 "2011-06-15T18:06:56Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Hmmm… I’ve never heard this anecdote, but I strongly suspect you’re on the verge of solving this one.
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> So, ask a more blunt, obvious question and you may be the winner.

DQ: Are you Ivan Turgenev?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/318 "2011-06-15T18:20:49Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did you play drums in a groundbreaking punk band and in a seminal heavy metal band?

> [@astorian](#):
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> No I’m not… Philthy Animal Taylor? (If that’s not right, ask a DQ.)

I was thinking Terry Chimes, who played drums on The Clash’s first album, and had a stint in the late 1980s playing with Black Sabbath.

That said, Philthy Phil did jam with The Damned in addition to his regular Motorhead gig. So I don’t earn anything under this rule:

[QUOTE=Wikipedia Botticelli rules]  
At this point, the chooser has three possible responses:

1. “No, I am not Frank Black.” — The chooser has either guessed the guesser’s chosen person, or has thought of another person who fits the same criteria. (Even if the guesser was thinking of the chooser’s chosen person, a correct “No I am not” that names a different person is allowed, if it fits the questioned criteria.) The game remains in indirect mode, and moves to the next guesser.  
[/QUOTE]

Anyways, it looks like Le Ministre is going to nail this one.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/319 "2011-06-15T18:56:56Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> DQ: Are you Ivan Turgenev?

Well, that IS mighty blunt and obvious!

\*\*YES! I am Ivan Turgenev, author of the great novel Fathers and Sons, and of the story collection A Sportsman’s Sketches. \*\*

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2011/584366/320 "2011-06-15T21:33:31Z")

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Good Heavens - what have I done?

All right then - the new initial is “P”. I’m horribly busy for the next couple of days, so I beg for your patience. I will try to be scrupulous about logging out when I’m not actually available, but scrupulous isn’t my best thing. Here we go…

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