# Botticelli - June 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 7, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406 "2012-06-07T17:23:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/21 "2012-06-08T02:53:18Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you an English composer renowned for the soundtrack music to ‘Henry V’ and ‘The Battle of Britain’? > > IQ2: Are you a different English composer who wrote ‘A Sea Symphony’, among other symphonic and operatic works? > > IQ3: Are you the American poet whose words were set throughout the above composer’s ‘A Sea Symphony’? (And ‘Toward the Unknown Region’, ‘Dona Nobis Pacem’ among many others…) > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I think William Wyler is one of these, but I’m not sure. Take two, or three if earned, DQs. I’m sorry, I don’t know if William Wyler ever composed or wrote poetry. #1 is **William Walton**. Orchestras have been doing concert for the last few years where someone like Christopher Plummer reads the Chorus and the Henry speeches while the orchestra plays a suite of pieces from the soundtrack. #2 is **Ralph Vaughn Williams** , composer of many symphonic and vocal works that involve the poetry of #3, **Walt Whitman** , American poet and luminary. DQ1: Are you American? DQ2: Are you celebrated for your achievements in The Arts, broadly defined? DQ3: Is ‘W’ the initial of your last name? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/22 "2012-06-08T03:01:47Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Correct on all, though I think you meant to say, “I’m _not_ Gene Wilder…” 😉 > > IQ1: I know you’re not Tyler or Arthur or Pierce or even Hayes, but could you be another, who died in thirty days? > > IQ2: Are you the father in a movie and Broadway show that includes such songs as “You’re Timeless to Me,” and “I Can Hear the Bells”? > > IQ3: Did you develop the brand that marketed itself as “the best in the house, in 87 lands”? D’oh! Correct, NOT Gene Wilder et al. Not William Henry Harrison. Dunno the dad or the brand developer. Two DQs. > [@etv78](#): > > Did you represent the U.S. at the Versaille Conference? Not Woodrow Wilson. W. 1. Real person 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not celebrated for contributions to the arts 6. First name starts with W ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/23 "2012-06-08T03:15:17Z")
Were you the subject of a notorious political ad? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/24 "2012-06-08T03:39:51Z")
IQ1: Were you the sole companion of a very lonely man? IQ2: Did you join the Allman Brothers Band on guitar in the late 1980s? IQ3: Did you start a band when you were 16 and then play in that band for the next 30+ years? ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/25 "2012-06-08T04:14:40Z")
DQ1: Were you known in the political arena? DQ2: Were you born before 1900? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/26 "2012-06-08T05:53:06Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > IQ2: Are you the father in a movie and Broadway show that includes such songs as “You’re Timeless to Me,” and “I Can Hear the Bells”? > > IQ3: Did you develop the brand that marketed itself as “the best in the house, in 87 lands”? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not William Henry Harrison. > Dunno the dad or the brand developer. Two DQs. Correct on Harrison (and thanks to the Simpsons for inspiring the question). IQ2 was looking for Wilbur Turnblad, the father of Tracy Turnblad, in the show “Hairspray.” IQ3 was looking for Hiram Walker, who developed Canadian Club whisky. Check their old ads; you’ll see that it was marketed as “the best in the house, in 87 lands.” DQ: Did you die prior to 1950? I’ll reserve my other DQ for a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/27 "2012-06-08T13:08:11Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Were you the subject of a notorious political ad? Still not Willie Horton (see post #10). > [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Were you the sole companion of a very lonely man? > IQ2: Did you join the Allman Brothers Band on guitar in the late 1980s? > IQ3: Did you start a band when you were 16 and then play in that band for the next 30+ years? I’m not Wilson the volleyball. Dunno the other two. Two DQs for you! W. 1. Real person 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not celebrated for contributions to the arts 6. First name starts with W 7. Not particularly known in the political arena 8. Born before 1900 9. Died before 1950 ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/28 "2012-06-08T17:43:46Z")
:smack: Sorry about that. my IQ: Did you found the 5 and dime store? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/29 "2012-06-08T18:23:14Z")
IQ1. Were your crowning years marred by a tempest in a Teapot? IQ2. Did your incredible hearing bring you a technical nickname? IQ3. Did everyone but your friends call you Bull? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/30 "2012-06-08T18:26:05Z")
IQ1: Did the debut of your opera in Paris cause a riot? IQ2: Are you a character from that opera, who was also a well known German Minnesinger? (And the author of the main source for another opera by that same composer.) IQ3: Are you the composer of the opera ‘Die Freischütz’? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/31 "2012-06-08T19:11:39Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > …my IQ: Did you found the 5 and dime store? I’m not Mr. Woolworth. > [@Wargamer](#): > > IQ1. Were your crowning years marred by a tempest in a Teapot? > > IQ2. Did your incredible hearing bring you a technical nickname? > > IQ3. Did everyone but your friends call you Bull? I’m not Warren G. Harding or Wilbur “Bull” Meacham of _The Great Santini_. Dunno the second. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Did the debut of your opera in Paris cause a riot? > > IQ2: Are you a character from that opera, who was also a well known German Minnesinger? (And the author of the main source for another opera by that same composer.) > > IQ3: Are you the composer of the opera ‘Die Freischütz’? Dunno the first one, and no, I’m not William Tell or Wagner. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/32 "2012-06-08T19:31:42Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Did the debut of your opera in Paris cause a riot? > > IQ2: Are you a character from that opera, who was also a well known German Minnesinger? (And the author of the main source for another opera by that same composer.) > > IQ3: Are you the composer of the opera ‘Die Freischütz’? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno the first one, and no, I’m not William Tell or Wagner. #1 is a reference to the Paris performance of **Richard Wagner** ’s ‘Tannhäuser’. Against the best advice of the directors of the Paris Opera, Wagner insisted on having the ballet in the first act. The corps de ballet were all mistresses of the Paris jockey club, who were accustomed to having a long, drunken dinner, showing up at the opera in time for the third act, and then going off with their girlfriends. When they discovered that the ballet was long past, they caused a significant scene. #2 is **Wolfram von Eschenbach** , a German Minnesinger of the 12th century who is a character in ‘Tannhäuser’. He was also the author of ‘Tristan’, which Wagner used as the basis for his opera ‘Tristan und Isolde’. It is Wolfram who sings the beautiful apostrophe to the evening star ‘O du, mein holder Abendstern’ in the last act of ‘Tannhäuser’. #3 is **Carl Maria von Weber** , a German composer of the early 19th century. ‘Der Frieschütz’ is easily his most famous work. I’ll claim two DQs for all that, if you’ll allow - you did say Wagner, after all. DQ1: Were you born before 1800? DQ2: Are you known as a military figure? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/33 "2012-06-08T19:35:30Z")
IQ: Do we have you to thank for football as we know it? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/34 "2012-06-09T01:01:15Z")
**Le Ministre** , I guessed Wagner for the wrong question, so take another DQ. > [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Do we have you to thank for football as we know it? No, I’m not… Walter Peyton? W. 1. Real person 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not celebrated for contributions to the arts 6. First name starts with W 7. Not particularly known in the political arena 8. Born before 1900 9. Died before 1950 10. Born after 1800 11. Not known as a military figure ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/35 "2012-06-09T02:24:41Z")
i was going for Walter Camp. He wrote the rules that moved football away from rugby, toward what we recognize as football. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/36 "2012-06-09T03:35:24Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ2: Did you join the Allman Brothers Band on guitar in the late 1980s? > IQ3: Did you start a band when you were 16 and then play in that band for the next 30+ years? These were Warren Haynes (Allman Brothers Band) and Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead. DQ1: Were you a scientist or inventor? DQ2: (reserved for later, unless you object) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/37 "2012-06-09T04:48:15Z")
W. 1. Real person 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not celebrated for contributions to the arts 6. First name starts with W 7. Not particularly known in the political arena 8. Born before 1900 9. Died before 1950 10. Born after 1800 11. Not known as a military figure 12. Not a scientist or inventor Yes, **Enginerd** , you can reserve DQs, but not after 20 have already been asked. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/38 "2012-06-09T13:01:43Z")
IQ2. Did your incredible hearing bring you a technical nickname? Walter ‘Radar’ O’Reilly from MASH. DQ: Did you die before 1875? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/39 "2012-06-09T14:26:01Z")
W. 1. Real person 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not celebrated for contributions to the arts 6. First name starts with W 7. Not particularly known in the political arena 8. Born before 1900 9. Died before 1950 10. Born after 1800 11. Not known as a military figure 12. Not a scientist or inventor 13. Died after 1875 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/40 "2012-06-09T14:34:26Z")
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