# Botticelli - June 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 7, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406 "2012-06-07T17:23:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/141 "2012-06-13T14:03:55Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yes, Jack Sparrow. > Jerry Seinfeld, in a routine about Halloween. > Lyndon Johnson, when directed by an Air Force officer towards a particular helicopter. > > DQs: > > Born after 1950? > Musician? > > IQs: > > Has a statute in your honor been vandalized over and over? > Did you enjoy privately shopping for books, for yourself and as presents? > Did you write one of the first respected books about the JFK assassination? No idea - 3 more DQs for you. 1. I am a man. 2. I am real. 3. I am dead. 4. I am not a politician. 5. I died after 1900 BC. (Also after 1900 AD as well) 6. My last name does NOT start with a J. 7. I am not an American. 8. I am noted for my contribution to The Arts. 9. I am English. 10. EDIT: Gah, I meant I was not born AFTER 1900, not before. 11. I am not a musician. Sorry about the mix-up on #10. Pending DQs **Elendil’s Heir** - 4 (3 plus the one that was rendered moot by my mistake.) **Enginerd** - 1 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/142 "2012-06-13T14:20:29Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: An Old Testament king, are you also the term for a double-magnum sized bottle? > > IQ2: Does your underwear figure in one of the Old Testament’s oddest stories? > > IQ3: Were you a kind of Judah who instituted religious reforms? > [@Wargamer](#): > > 1. I’m not Jeroboam (I think). > > 2. I’m not Joshua (I think it was Joshua and his undies hanging out Rahab’s window at the Battle of Jericho, wasn’t it? If not - a DQ. > > 3. I don’t know - a DQ. Jeroboam is correct. The underwear story is from the book of **Jeremiah** - it has been translated as linen girdle, linen belt or linen underwear. Jehovah tells Jeremiah to get a fresh, clean pair of shorts and bury them. When he digs them up again, they’re ‘soiled’. Later on, The Lord tells Jeremiah that he will cleave unto Judah like a girdle/belt/pair of tighty whities. Certainly one of the passages that makes non-believers wonder what point it is they’re missing… 1. **Josiah** is a king of Judah who restored the Temple of Jerusalem to the worship of Yahweh. DQs 2. Are you an actor in live theatre, film or television? 3. Did you die before 1980 AD? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/143 "2012-06-13T14:44:29Z")
IQ1: Are you a novelist and poet known for stream of consciousness prose? IQ2: Are you the primary danger to sexually active teenagers at Crystal Lake? IQ3: Did your wife kill your children as revenge for your unfaithfulness? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/144 "2012-06-13T15:08:56Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Are you a novelist and poet known for stream of consciousness prose? > IQ2: Are you the primary danger to sexually active teenagers at Crystal Lake? > IQ3: Did your wife kill your children as revenge for your unfaithfulness? 1. DQ. 2. I’m not Jason Voorhees. 3. Another DQ. 4. I am a man. 5. I am real. 6. I am dead. 7. I am not a politician. 8. I died after 1900 BC. (Also after 1900 AD as well) 9. My last name does NOT start with a J. 10. I am not an American. 11. I am noted for my contribution to The Arts. 12. I am English. 13. EDIT: Gah, I meant I was not born AFTER 1900, not before. Edit 2(Since I still think this is confusing - I was born before 1900.) 14. I am not a musician. 15. I am not an actor. 16. I did die before 1980. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/145 "2012-06-13T15:15:31Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Are you a novelist and poet known for stream of consciousness prose? > IQ3: Did your wife kill your children as revenge for your unfaithfulness? James Joyce and Jason of the quest for the Golden Fleece (who was married to Medea before he left her for a princess). DQ: Are you a writer? DQ: Were you born before 1860? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/146 "2012-06-13T15:40:06Z")
DQ Summary 1. I am a man. 2. I am real. 3. I am dead. 4. I am not a politician. 5. I died after 1900 BC. (Also after 1900 AD as well) 6. My last name does NOT start with a J. 7. I am not an American. 8. I am noted for my contribution to The Arts. 9. I am English. 10. EDIT: Gah, I meant I was not born AFTER 1900, not before. Edit 2(Since I still think this is confusing - I was born before 1900.) 11. I am not a musician. 12. I am not an actor. 13. I did die before 1980. 14. I am a writer. 15. I was born after 1860. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/147 "2012-06-13T15:47:04Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > 1. I am English. Quick clarification - does this mean the person is actually from the country England, from Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales), from the UK (Great Britain and Northern Ireland), or something else? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/148 "2012-06-13T17:59:06Z")
Well, the actual DQ was “Are you an Englishman?” I would say that this person would be considered an Englishman, with all that entails, ie - English heritage, a citizen of Great Britain, not Scottish, Irish, or Welch. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/149 "2012-06-13T18:42:03Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > Well, the actual DQ was “Are you an Englishman?” > > I would say that this person would be considered an Englishman, with all that entails, ie - English heritage, a citizen of Great Britain, not Scottish, Irish, or Welch. Yes, that was my intent of the DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/150 "2012-06-13T18:54:28Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …IQs: > > Has a statute in your honor been vandalized over and over? > Did you enjoy privately shopping for books, for yourself and as presents? > Did you write one of the first respected books about the JFK assassination? Jebediah Springfield, whose statue on the town square is now always decapitated in the opening credits of _The Simpsons_. President Josiah Bartlet on _The West Wing_. Josiah Thompson, a UDT-turned-philosophy-teacher-turned-author-turned-private detective. Quite a guy. To clarify, **Wargamer** : You’re thinking of an English writer born between 1860 and 1900, who died between 1901 and 1980, whose first name begins with J. Correct? DQs: Novelist? Winner of a major prize in literature (Nobel, Pulitzer, Booker, etc.?) I’ll reserve two DQs for now. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/151 "2012-06-13T18:58:42Z")
IQ1: Are you Superman’s father? IQ2: Has your grave been vandalized over and over? (I thought EH was asking for somebody else - here (s)he is!) IQ3: Can you describe a tree, even if you can’t make one? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/152 "2012-06-13T20:01:05Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Jebediah Springfield, whose statue on the town square is now always decapitated in the opening credits of _The Simpsons_. > President Josiah Bartlet on _The West Wing_. > Josiah Thompson, a UDT-turned-philosophy-teacher-turned-author-turned-private detective. Quite a guy. > > To clarify, **Wargamer** : > > You’re thinking of an English writer born between 1860 and 1900, who died between 1901 and 1980, whose first name begins with J. Correct? > > DQs: > > Novelist? > Winner of a major prize in literature (Nobel, Pulitzer, Booker, etc.?) > > I’ll reserve two DQs for now. Yes, that is a correct statement of this person’s birthdate. Born between 1860 and 1900, died between 1900 and 1980. > [@enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Are you Superman’s father? > IQ2: Has your grave been vandalized over and over? (I thought EH was asking for somebody else - here (s)he is!) > IQ3: Can you describe a tree, even if you can’t make one? 1. I’m not Jor-El. 2. I’m not Jim Morrison, I think that’s who you mean. 3. Not Joyce Kilmer. DQ Summary 1. I am a man. 2. I am real. 3. I am dead. 4. I am not a politician. 5. I died after 1900 BC. (Also after 1900 AD as well) 6. My last name does NOT start with a J. 7. I am not an American. 8. I am noted for my contribution to The Arts. 9. I am English. 10. EDIT: Gah, I meant I was not born AFTER 1900, not before. Edit 2(Since I still think this is confusing - I was born before 1900.) 11. I am not a musician. 12. I am not an actor. 13. I did die before 1980. 14. I am a writer. 15. I was born after 1860. 16. I am noted mainly for novels, although I was also noted for other styles of writing. 17. I did not win a major prize for my writing. (I did win a few prizes, but none of them would be considered major, like a Nobel, or a Pulitzer Prize would be.) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/153 "2012-06-14T02:53:23Z")
OK, thanks. DQ: Where you born somewhere other than in the British Isles? One DQ reserved. IQs: Was your mom cut off from her family when she became Catholic? Did you star in _A Different World_? Was your dad a wacky inventor who loved you very much? ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/154 "2012-06-14T05:11:37Z")
IQ1: Has a series you wrote become a multimillion dollar movie franchise? IQ2: Is your last name synonymous with a school of thought? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/155 "2012-06-14T13:53:52Z")
> [@MissTake](#): > > IQ1: Has a series you wrote become a multimillion dollar movie franchise? > IQ2: Is your last name synonymous with a school of thought? Yes, I am John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, author of _The Hobbit_ and \*The Lord of the Rings \* trilogy, and noted Professor of Ancient Languages. Congrats to **MissTake**! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/156 "2012-06-14T14:20:55Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …IQs: > > Was your mom cut off from her family when she became Catholic? > Did you star in _A Different World_? > Was your dad a wacky inventor who loved you very much? The first is also J.R.R. Tolkien. This was Jasmine Guy. This was Jemima Potts, from _Chitty Chitty Bang Bang_. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/157 "2012-06-14T14:30:52Z")
Well, then… Yes, I am John Ronald Reuel Tolkien…etc etc. (FTR - I would have missed that IQ and said have a DQ.) Congratulations also to **Elendil’s Heir**! ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/158 "2012-06-14T14:57:20Z")
Since my access is going to be spotty for the next few days (grad party prep for TheKid) and since **Elendir’s Heir** got the question in first - you take it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/159 "2012-06-14T17:25:15Z")
Are you sure? I started the one at the beginning of this thread, and don’t mind passing this time. We could take a few days off, if that’s more convenient for you. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406/160 "2012-06-14T19:21:43Z")
Yup, I am sure. Go for it! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2012/624406.md?page=9)