# Botticelli - June 2013

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/181 "2013-06-14T00:44:01Z")

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Since they’re taking the SDMB down for repairs tonight, I think I’ll wait 'til tomorrow to ask more IQs…

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/182 "2013-06-14T00:47:25Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a composer whose nickname was ‘The Red Priest’?  
> IQ2: Are you a composer who was also a successful farmer?  
> IQ3: Are you a composer whom Frank Zappa revered to the point of spending his birthday money on a long distance call to talk to you?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not Antonio Vivaldi.  
> You also may have two DQs.

#3 is indeed **Antonio Vivaldi**.

Just kidding - #1 is Vivaldi.  
#2 is **Giuseppe Verdi**. He personally oversaw the operations of ‘Villa Verdi’, and it was a profitable farming operation up until his death.  
#3 is **Edgar Varèse**. Teenage Zappa was enthralled with ‘Ionisations’, and used his birthday money to phone the composer in New York. The first time, he only got to speak to the composer’s wife, Louise, as Varèse was in Belgium. They did speak later; a planned meeting never took place.  
So - DQ1: Are you alive?  
DQ2: Are you American?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/183 "2013-06-14T00:49:16Z")

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**V**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/184 "2013-06-14T02:54:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did the Deputy Secretary of State do you no favors, but someone else was initally blamed?  
> Did you write a famous seasonal letter to the editor?  
> Were you a top judge and a poker buddy of Harry Truman’s?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not a girl named Virginia inquiring about Santa Claus.  
> Two DQs for you, too.

Valerie Plame, outed by Richard Armitage, but Scooter Libby got blamed.  
Yes, Virginia, that was who I was thinking of.  
Fred Vinson, Chief Justice of the United States.

DQs:

European?  
Last name starts with V?

IQs:

Were you a White House aide who committed suicide?  
Did a young Andy Griffith appear in a play that featured you?  
Did Steve Winwood sing about you?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/185 "2013-06-14T10:51:42Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a Dutch painter who specialist in genre scenes, depicting interior portrayals of middle-class life?
2. Were you the father of Op Art?
3. Did you create the work, the Marriage of Arnolfini?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/186 "2013-06-14T11:00:45Z")

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IQ1: Did you have a scandalous affair with an underage poet?  
IQ2: Did you turn in a kicking performance at ‘The Last Waltz’?  
IQ3: Did Caesar mention you as a soldier in the commentaries, leading to much greater fame in modern times?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/187 "2013-06-15T00:31:12Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a White House aide who committed suicide?  
> Did a young Andy Griffith appear in a play that featured you?  
> Did Steve Winwood sing about you?

Three DQs.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a Dutch painter who specialist in genre scenes, depicting interior portrayals of middle-class life?
> 2. Were you the father of Op Art?
> 3. Did you create the work, the Marriage of Arnolfini?

1. I am not my favourite painter, Jan Vermeer.
2. I am not van Dyck.  
Take a DQ for #2, or more if appropriate.

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Did you have a scandalous affair with an underage poet?  
> IQ2: Did you turn in a kicking performance at ‘The Last Waltz’?  
> IQ3: Did Caesar mention you as a soldier in the commentaries, leading to much greater fame in modern times?

DQs for the first two. If #3 was meant to be Vercingetorix, see post 174; if not, then take a third DQ.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/188 "2013-06-15T01:55:09Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Did you have a scandalous affair with an underage poet?  
> IQ2: Did you turn in a kicking performance at ‘The Last Waltz’?  
> IQ3: Did Caesar mention you as a soldier in the commentaries, leading to much greater fame in modern times?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQs for the first two. If #3 was meant to be Vercingetorix, see post 174; if not, then take a third DQ.

#1. is the French poet **Paul Verlaine** , who left his wife and child to live with the young Arthur Rimbaud. Their torrid affair is the subject of the play ‘Total Eclipse’.

#2. is **Van Morrison** , who sang ‘Caravan’ at The Band’s concert ‘The Last Waltz’. It was a kicking performance, in that he did about twenty high dance kicks, in addition to singing well.

#3. isn’t Vercingetorix, but rather **Lucius Vorenus** , who is one of the central characters in the HBO series ‘Rome’ (both seasons), and who was mentioned (along with Titus Pullo) in Caesar’s ‘Commentaries on the Gallic Wars’.  
DQ1: Were you born before 1900 AD?  
DQ2: Are you renowned for your contributions to The Arts, broadly defined as to include all forms of artistic endeavour, whether creative or re-creative, up to and including swimsuit modelling?

I’ll reserve my last DQ, if I may.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/189 "2013-06-15T02:10:27Z")

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**V**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. European
6. Last name does not start with ‘V’
7. Not born before AD 1900
8. Renowned for contributions to The Arts

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/190 "2013-06-15T02:21:58Z")

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DQ: Did you die before 2000 AD?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/191 "2013-06-15T02:38:58Z")

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I like Vermeer too. Victor Vasarely is the Father of Op Art, and it’s Jan van Eyck, not van Dyck, that did the Arnolfini wedding.

DQ:  
Musician, composer or singer?

I, too, shall hold onto one DQ.

IQs

1. Did you battle Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man in his last film?
2. Were you TV’s Rhoda?
3. Are you generally credited with being the first actress to show her tits on public television?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/192 "2013-06-15T02:46:56Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs
> 
> 1. Did you battle Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man in his last film?
> 2. Were you TV’s Rhoda?
> 3. Are you generally credited with being the first actress to show her tits on public television?

Not the Vulture or Valerie Harper.  
DQ for the topless actress.  
**V**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. European
6. Last name does not start with ‘V’
7. Not born before AD 1900
8. Renowned for contributions to The Arts
9. Did not die before AD 2000
10. Musician, composer or singer (though not known only for that)  
Arnolfini - that’s the pregnant wife with the green dress, right?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/193 "2013-06-15T02:48:17Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a White House aide who committed suicide?  
> Did a young Andy Griffith appear in a play that featured you?  
> Did Steve Winwood sing about you?

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Three DQs.

Vince Foster, a top Clinton advisor, thus giving rise to all sorts of wacky conspiracy theories.  
Virginia Dare, in the Outer Banks outdoor drama _The Lost Colony_.  
Valerie: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RriQt0ebFaw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RriQt0ebFaw)

DQs:

Noted for acting skills, as well?  
British?  
Has received a top prize in his field?

IQs:

Did you refer to a friendly astronaut as “Stinky”?  
Were you played by two related actors, one young and one old, in the same movie?  
Were you the first female president of your Central American country?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/194 "2013-06-15T02:55:31Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not the Vulture or Valerie Harper.  
> DQ for the topless actress.  
> **V**
> 
> 1. Real
> 2. Male
> 3. Dead
> 4. Not American
> 5. European
> 6. Last name does not start with ‘V’
> 7. Not born before AD 1900
> 8. Renowned for contributions to The Arts
> 9. Did not die before AD 2000
> 10. Musician, composer or singer (though not known only for that)  
> Arnolfini - that’s the pregnant wife with the green dress, right?

Yep. And Valerie Perrine went topless on a PBS production of the play Steambath, [http://www.metacafe.com/?m=featured\_video](http://www.metacafe.com/?m=featured_video). Also with Bill Bixby, it was 1973, I was 20 and I decided right then and there I really needed to start dating.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/195 "2013-06-15T11:30:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you refer to a friendly astronaut as “Stinky”?  
> Were you played by two related actors, one young and one old, in the same movie?  
> Were you the first female president of your Central American country?

Three DQs.  
V

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. European
6. Last name does not start with ‘V’
7. Not born before AD 1900
8. Renowned for contributions to The Arts
9. Did not die before AD 2000
10. Musician, composer or singer (though not known only for that)
11. Not noted for acting skills
12. Not British
13. Has not received a top prize in his field (not sure if there really is one)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/196 "2013-06-15T12:50:19Z")

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DQ: French?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/197 "2013-06-15T16:12:48Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you refer to a friendly astronaut as “Stinky”?  
> Were you played by two related actors, one young and one old, in the same movie?  
> Were you the first female president of your Central American country?

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Three DQs…

Valentine Michael Smith in Robert A. Heinlein’s _Stranger in a Strange Land_.  
Voldemort was played by both Ralph Fiennes and his young nephew, whose name escapes me, in one of the Harry Potter movies.  
Violetta Chomorro (sp?) of Nicaragua.

Gotta think…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/198 "2013-06-15T16:32:02Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you play basically the same role with essentially the very same dialogue in a western and a really cheesy scifi film?
2. Did you mentor a gold-medal skater whose career crashed when she couldn’t handle the success?
3. Is Gotham City’s underworld afraid of your dummy?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/199 "2013-06-15T22:14:43Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you play basically the same role with essentially the very same dialogue in a western and a really cheesy scifi film?
> 2. Did you mentor a gold-medal skater whose career crashed when she couldn’t handle the success?
> 3. Is Gotham City’s underworld afraid of your dummy?

Not The Ventriloquist.  
DQs for the other two.  
**V**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. European
6. Last name does not start with ‘V’
7. Not born before AD 1900
8. Renowned for contributions to The Arts
9. Did not die before AD 2000
10. Musician, composer or singer (though not known only for that)
11. Not noted for acting skills
12. Not British
13. Has not received a top prize in his field (not sure if there really is one)
14. Not French

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/200 "2013-06-15T22:32:16Z")

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Robert Vaughn was in The Magnificent Seven (itself a remake of the Seven Samurai), where he played a killer for hire; he played the same character in the scifi remake, Battle Beyond the Stars. Victor Petrenko and family coached Osaka Baiul to Olympic Gold, but the girl liked to party and had some DUI’s and somehow didn’t get on the touring circuits as other skaters were doing at the time.

Yeah, it’s another stumper. Think, think, think…

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