# Botticelli - June 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 12

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/221 "2013-06-17T21:22:26Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the son of Parsifal?  
> IQ2: Are you the composer of a less-famous ‘La Boheme’?  
> IQ3: Whatever you want, do you get?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I really love Wagner, but can’t think of #1 to save me. No idea on #2.  
> I am not Lola.
> 
> Take 2 DQs.

**Lola** from ‘Damn Yankees’ is quite correct.

#1 is **Lohengrin** , title character of an opera by Wagner. In his aria where he confesses his name to the entire court of Brabant, he mentions that Parsifal is his father.

#2 is **Ruggiero Leoncavallo** , whose opera ‘Pagliacci’ has made him renowned. He wrote a ‘La Boheme’ - same characters as the much more famous opera by Giacomo Puccini, but a different angle on the story. See, Leoncavallo thought the tempestuous love affair between Marcello and Musetta was where the focus should be. It is rarely heard…  
DQ1: Is ‘L’ the initial letter of your last name?  
DQ2: Born before 1900 AD?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/222 "2013-06-17T21:36:56Z")

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DQ1) Real.  
DQ2) Male.  
DQ3) Dead.  
DQ4) Not American.  
DQ5) Last name starts with L  
DQ6) Born before 1900 AD

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/223 "2013-06-18T01:46:50Z")

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IQ1: Do you have a vampire for a father and a werewolf for a son?  
IQ2: Are you a Viking who wears a long red tunic?  
IQ3: Is plagiarism your secret to success in mathematics?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/224 "2013-06-18T02:01:46Z")

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I’m not Lily Munster. Unless #2 is Lief Ericsson, take a DQ.  
And one man deserves the credit, one man deserves the blame,  
And Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky is not my name.  
(Though I thought of using him.)

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/225 "2013-06-18T02:13:49Z")

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IQ1: Are Tommy’s last words a plea for someone to tell you he loves you?  
IQ2: Are you a legendary Canadian folk-singer?  
IQ3: Are you the first French-Canadian Prime Minister of Canada?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/226 "2013-06-18T02:20:56Z")

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IQ1: Are you being taunted by your opponent in an iconic sports photo?  
IQ2: Are you an electrician turned dissident turned statesman?  
IQ3: God darnit, do you use yer tongue purdier than a twenty dollar whore?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/227 "2013-06-18T02:27:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs (in honor of Father’s Day):
> 
> Did you attend a ceremony honoring your dad in 1922?  
> Was your dad good friends with Henry Clay?  
> Did you fail to attend your dad’s funeral, even though you pretty easily could have?

Robert Todd Lincoln, at the dedication of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C.  
Mary Todd Lincoln, his mom.  
Abraham Lincoln himself. He had a prickly relationship with his own father, alas.

DQs:

European?  
Born before 1800?  
Political/military?

IQs:

Were you a snooty French PM of the mid-1980s?  
Did you get along pretty well with your older neighbor despite his racism?  
Was this your chosen name, despite being a man in a comedy film?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/228 "2013-06-18T02:48:49Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Do you have a vampire for a father and a werewolf for a son?  
> IQ2: Are you a Viking who wears a long red tunic?  
> IQ3: Is plagiarism your secret to success in mathematics?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I’m not Lily Munster. Unless #2 is Lief Ericsson, take a DQ.  
> And one man deserves the credit, one man deserves the blame,  
> And Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky is not my name.  
> (Though I thought of using him.)

Correct on Lily and Lobachevsky, of course.  
#2 is Lucky Eddie, of Hagar the Horrible’s crew.  
Reserving my DQ until I see the answers to EH’s.  
IQ1: Did you write two books about Rose and her cousins?  
IQ2: Did you go on a long cruise with Professor Arronax?  
IQ3: If you climb into a taxi which has appeared on the shore, will you be gone?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/229 "2013-06-18T10:53:46Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are Tommy’s last words a plea for someone to tell you he loves you?  
> IQ2: Are you a legendary Canadian folk-singer?  
> IQ3: Are you the first French-Canadian Prime Minister of Canada?

I’m not Laura, and not Gordon Lightfoot.  
Take a DQ for #3.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/230 "2013-06-18T10:55:33Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you being taunted by your opponent in an iconic sports photo?  
> IQ2: Are you an electrician turned dissident turned statesman?  
> IQ3: God darnit, do you use yer tongue purdier than a twenty dollar whore?

I am not Hedley Lamarr. Take 2 DQs for the others.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/231 "2013-06-18T10:58:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a snooty French PM of the mid-1980s?  
> Did you get along pretty well with your older neighbor despite his racism?  
> Was this your chosen name, despite being a man in a comedy film?

I’m not Laurent Fabius.  
Take 2 more DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/232 "2013-06-18T11:00:33Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write two books about Rose and her cousins?  
> IQ2: Did you go on a long cruise with Professor Arronax?  
> IQ3: If you climb into a taxi which has appeared on the shore, will you be gone?

I’m not Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.  
Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/233 "2013-06-18T11:01:51Z")

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DQ1) Real.  
DQ2) Male.  
DQ3) Dead.  
DQ4) Not American.  
DQ5) Last name starts with L  
DQ6) Born before 1900 AD  
DQ7) European  
DQ8) Born before 1800 AD  
DQ9) Not a politician or military

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/234 "2013-06-18T11:31:40Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are Tommy’s last words a plea for someone to tell you he loves you?  
> IQ2: Are you a legendary Canadian folk-singer?  
> IQ3: Are you the first French-Canadian Prime Minister of Canada?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> I’m not Laura, and not Gordon Lightfoot.  
> Take a DQ for #3.

Absolutely right. #3 is **Wilfred Laurier** , who is featured on the Canadian $5 bill.

DQ: Are you renowned for your contribution to The Arts, defined so as to include all creative and re-creative endeavours in all art forms, whether visual, musical, literary, performance or culinary?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/235 "2013-06-18T12:04:15Z")

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DQ1) Real.  
DQ2) Male.  
DQ3) Dead.  
DQ4) Not American.  
DQ5) Last name starts with L  
DQ6) Born before 1900 AD  
DQ7) European  
DQ8) Born before 1800 AD  
DQ9) Not a politician or military  
DQ10) Not in the Arts

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/236 "2013-06-18T13:02:10Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you being taunted by your opponent in an iconic sports photo?  
> IQ2: Are you an electrician turned dissident turned statesman?  
> IQ3: God darnit, do you use yer tongue purdier than a twenty dollar whore?

Hedley Lamarr is right - the first two are [Sonny Liston](http://worldsfamousphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/muhammad_ali_versus_sonny_liston.jpg) and Lech Walesa.

DQ: Were you a scientist/inventor?  
DQ: Were you a native of what is now the UK?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/237 "2013-06-18T13:05:11Z")

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DQ1) Real.  
DQ2) Male.  
DQ3) Dead.  
DQ4) Not American.  
DQ5) Last name starts with L  
DQ6) Born before 1900 AD  
DQ7) European  
DQ8) Born before 1800 AD  
DQ9) Not a politician or military  
DQ10) Not in the Arts  
DQ11) Scientist/inventor  
DQ12) Not a native of the UK

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/238 "2013-06-18T13:20:26Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a snooty French PM of the mid-1980s?  
> Did you get along pretty well with your older neighbor despite his racism?  
> Was this your chosen name, despite being a man in a comedy film?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> I’m not Laurent Fabius.  
> Take 2 more DQs.

Yes, Laurent Fabius - well done!  
Lionel Jefferson and Archie Bunker had a surprisingly friendly relationship.  
A Judean freedom fighter (Eric Idle) wanted his comrades to call him “Loretta” in _Monty Python’s Life of Brian_.

DQs:

Born east of Vienna?  
Born before 1500?

IQs:

Did you order your brother to go to a less dangerous place during a battle?  
Is a convention center named after you in the city of which you were once mayor?  
Did Washington insist the British surrender to you at Yorktown?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/239 "2013-06-18T13:23:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you order your brother to go to a less dangerous place during a battle?  
> Is a convention center named after you in the city of which you were once mayor?  
> Did Washington insist the British surrender to you at Yorktown?

Okay, I’m pretty sure that #3 is Lafayette. Take 2 DQs (or 3 if I’m wrong).

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/240 "2013-06-18T13:29:08Z")

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DQ1) Real.  
DQ2) Male.  
DQ3) Dead.  
DQ4) Not American.  
DQ5) Last name starts with L  
DQ6) Born before 1900 AD  
DQ7) European  
DQ8) Born before 1800 AD  
DQ9) Not a politician or military  
DQ10) Not in the Arts  
DQ11) Scientist/inventor  
DQ12) Not a native of the UK  
DQ13) Born east of Vienna  
DQ14) Born after 1500 AD

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