# Botticelli - June 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/241 "2013-06-18T14:16:31Z")

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IQ1: Did you devise a system for classifying genetic traits?  
IQ2: Did you conceive of the notion of heritability of genetic traits?  
IQ3: Were you the foremost geologist of your day?

(Beggar me, but I don’t think a single one of these was born east of Vienna…)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/242 "2013-06-18T14:32:46Z")

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I’m not Lamarck. Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/243 "2013-06-18T14:34:42Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> DQ1) Real.  
> DQ2) Male.  
> DQ3) Dead.  
> DQ4) Not American.  
> DQ5) Last name starts with L  
> DQ6) Born before 1900 AD  
> DQ7) European  
> DQ8) Born before 1800 AD  
> DQ9) Not a politician or military  
> DQ10) Not in the Arts  
> DQ11) Scientist/inventor  
> DQ12) Not a native of the UK  
> DQ13) Born WEST of Vienna (someday I’m gonna learn how to read a map)  
> DQ14) Born after 1500 AD

…Sorry 'bout that.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/244 "2013-06-18T14:40:30Z")

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#1 was the Swedish **Carl Linnaeus** , and #3 was **Charles Lyell**. Quite right on Jean-Baptist Lamarck.

Well, west of Vienna is a little easier for that time period… I’m going to go have a ponder while I think of a useful couple of DQs.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/245 "2013-06-18T16:27:46Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write two books about Rose and her cousins?  
> IQ2: Did you go on a long cruise with Professor Arronax?  
> IQ3: If you climb into a taxi which has appeared on the shore, will you be gone?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I’m not Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.  
> Take 2 DQs.

Louisa May Alcott wrote Eight Cousins and Rose in Bloom.  
Ned Land was the harpooner (played by Kirk Douglas in the movie, I think) who travelled 20,000 leagues under the sea.  
Must hurry - no time to think of DQs now.  
IQ1: Did you discover animalcules?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/246 "2013-06-18T16:46:58Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you discover animalcules?

I’m not von Leeuwenhoek. (Not sure I spelled that right.)

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/247 "2013-06-18T23:42:24Z")

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IQ: Did you develop infinitesimal calculus independently of Newton?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/248 "2013-06-19T00:05:13Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ: Did you develop infinitesimal calculus independently of Newton?

Why, yes, as a matter of fact, I am Gottfried W. Leibniz! In addition to being co-creator of calculus, Leibniz developed a system of theosophical philosophy best remembered because Voltaire parodied it in his _Candide_, putting it in the mouth of Candide’s teacher Pangloss as: “This is the best of all possible worlds.”

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/249 "2013-06-19T02:22:12Z")

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Nice one, Enginerd!!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/250 "2013-06-19T02:33:33Z")

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Way to go, **Enginerd**! Wouldn’t have guessed him in a million years… maybe a little less.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you order your brother to go to a less dangerous place during a battle?  
> Is a convention center named after you in the city of which you were once mayor?  
> Did Washington insist the British surrender to you at Yorktown?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Okay, I’m pretty sure that #3 is Lafayette. Take 2 DQs (or 3 if I’m wrong).

Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, at the Battle of Gettysburg. An artillery shell burst nearby and Chamberlain ordered his brother Thomas to move away so that it wouldn’t be “a hard day for Mother” if both were killed at the same time.  
David L. Lawrence, in Pittsburgh.  
Not Lafayette (although he was there), but Gen. Benjamin Lincoln, who had surrendered Charleston the year before and been humiliated by the British by denied the honors of war.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/251 "2013-06-19T02:54:58Z")

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Thanks, folks!

I haven’t posted anything about it, but I moved a few weeks ago. Where did I move to? It’s two puzzles in one! We’ll do someone in honor of my new (temporary) home: the letter is **N**.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/252 "2013-06-19T10:45:00Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you friends with Sluggo?
2. Do you send Archie to do your legwork while you raise orchids?
3. Did you sing a German song about red balloons?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/253 "2013-06-19T11:07:51Z")

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IQ1: Are your jelly recipes far more accurate than any of your predictions?  
IQ2: Are you the renowned Gerenian charioteer?  
IQ3: Are you a high velocity pitcher?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/254 "2013-06-19T11:46:31Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you friends with Sluggo?
> 2. Do you send Archie to do your legwork while you raise orchids?
> 3. Did you sing a German song about red balloons?

I’m not Nancy or Nena. Take a DQ for #2.

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are your jelly recipes far more accurate than any of your predictions?  
> IQ2: Are you the renowned Gerenian charioteer?  
> IQ3: Are you a high velocity pitcher?

Not Nostradamus or Nolan Ryan - DQ for #2.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/255 "2013-06-19T11:50:36Z")

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#2’s Nero Wolfe.

DQ1) Real?

IQ1) Were you not a crook?  
IQ2) Did you transform yourself by accidental stages into first a cyborg and then basically a sentient robot?  
IQ3) Did you bang on the podium at the UN with your shoe?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/256 "2013-06-19T12:09:56Z")

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DQs:

1. Real

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQ1) Were you not a crook?  
> IQ2) Did you transform yourself by accidental stages into first a cyborg and then basically a sentient robot?  
> IQ3) Did you bang on the podium at the UN with your shoe?

Not Richard Nixon or Nikita Kruschev. Another #2 DQ.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/257 "2013-06-19T12:15:03Z")

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#2 was Nick Chopper, aka the Tin Woodman in the Wizard of Oz.

DQ: Male?

IQs:

1. Are you one of the Backstreet Boys (a group dear to Madame Pepperwinkle’s heart, but not mine)?
2. Were you the sleuth in the Thin Man?
3. Were you the Great Royal Wife of the pharoah Akhenaten?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/258 "2013-06-19T12:25:26Z")

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Letter N DQs:

1. Real
2. Male

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you one of the Backstreet Boys (a group dear to Madame Pepperwinkle’s heart, but not mine)?
> 2. Were you the sleuth in the Thin Man?
> 3. Were you the Great Royal Wife of the pharoah Akhenaten?

Not Nick Lachey, I think? Or Nefertiti - take a DQ for the sleuth and another for the Backstreet Boy if that’s wrong.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/259 "2013-06-19T12:35:17Z")

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Nick Carter’s the Backstreet Boy. Nick Charles in the Thin Man.

DQs:

1. Alive?
2. American?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/260 "2013-06-19T13:14:52Z")

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I’m not gonna get too upset about not knowing the name of a Backstreet Boy. 🙂  
Letter N DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. American\*

\*By some, if not all, definitions of the word

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