# Botticelli - June 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/341 "2013-06-25T21:34:12Z")
IQ1: Did you write about the Seaton/DuQuesne rivalry? IQ2: Did you write about wild animals you had known? IQ3: Were you a Roman emperor born in Libya? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/342 "2013-06-26T01:57:06Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. Did you terrorize Uncle Wiggly? > 2. Were you the artist who created _Street in Moret_? > 3. Do you play guitar for the group Shadowfax? > [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Did you write about the Seaton/DuQuesne rivalry? > IQ2: Did you write about wild animals you had known? > IQ3: Were you a Roman emperor born in Libya? Dunno any of these. Three DQs each. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/343 "2013-06-26T02:15:25Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Did you write about the Seaton/DuQuesne rivalry? > IQ2: Did you write about wild animals you had known? > IQ3: Were you a Roman emperor born in Libya? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno any of these. Three DQs each. Seaton and “Blackie” DuQuesne are characters in the Skylark series, by E E “Doc” Smith. Ernest Thompson Seton wrote _Wild Animals I Have Known_. Septimius Severus. DQ1: Let’s split the difference - died after 1550? DQ2: Born west of the Rhine ? IQ1: Ae you a European who wrote a famous study on the art of war? IQ2: Do you keep your tobacco in a Persian slipper? IQ3: Were you Maud’s opponent for a top job? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/344 "2013-06-26T02:38:01Z")
The monstrous bird the Skeezik frightened poor old Uncle Wiggily in more than one children’s tale. Alfred Sisley’s the painter, and G. E. Stinson is the guitarist for Shadowfax. I’ll wait on my DQs for the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/345 "2013-06-26T04:08:57Z")
D’oh! Should’ve remembered Ernest Thompson Seton because of his Boy Scout connection. > [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Ae you a European who wrote a famous study on the art of war? > IQ2: Do you keep your tobacco in a Persian slipper? > IQ3: Were you Maud’s opponent for a top job? Not Karl Student, Sherlock Holmes or Sam Spade. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > The monstrous bird the Skeezik frightened poor old Uncle Wiggily in more than one children’s tale. > Alfred Sisley’s the painter, and G. E. Stinson is the guitarist for Shadowfax… Never heard of these folks. Has any other player? S. 1. Real 2. Male 3. Last name begins with S 4. Dead 5. Died before 1900 6. Not American 7. Died before 1700 8. European 9. Political/military figure 10. Died after 1400 11. Died after 1550 12. Born east of the Rhine As the phrase is usually understood. Please note, however, that the Rhine goes in all kinds of different directions along its length. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/346 "2013-06-26T10:32:49Z")
Correction for the typo: that shoulda been Skeezix, not Skeezik. There was a character in the old Gasoline Alley comic strip named after it. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/347 "2013-06-26T10:47:39Z")
DQ: Head of state? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/348 "2013-06-26T22:00:47Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Ae you a European who wrote a famous study on the art of war? > IQ2: Do you keep your tobacco in a Persian slipper? > IQ3: Were you Maud’s opponent for a top job? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Karl Student, Sherlock Holmes or Sam Spade. Student wrote a book? I’ll have to look for it… In the meantime, I’ll rephrase the question. Yes, Sherlock Holmes. Sam Spade??? IQ1: Were you an 18th-century European who wrote a famous study on the art of war? IQ2: Are you an American journalist famous for exploring central Africa? IQ3: Did you compare Texas unfavourably with Hell? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/349 "2013-06-26T22:04:27Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Never heard of these folks. Has any other player? Sisley sounds vaguely familiar, but it’s been fifty years since I read Uncle Wiggily and Shadowfax is the wrong type of music for me to know anything about… [/QUOTE] As the phrase is usually understood. Please note, however, that the Rhine goes in all kinds of different directions along its length. [/QUOTE] For some reason I thought it was rather straighter than it actually is… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/350 "2013-06-27T02:36:28Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > Student wrote a book? I’ll have to look for it… In the meantime, I’ll rephrase the question. > Yes, Sherlock Holmes. > Sam Spade??? > > IQ1: Were you an 18th-century European who wrote a famous study on the art of war? > IQ2: Are you an American journalist famous for exploring central Africa? > IQ3: Did you compare Texas unfavourably with Hell? Student and Spade were guesses. Dunno the first - the only two I can think of are Sun Tzu and Clausewitz. Not Stanley or… Sheridan? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/351 "2013-06-27T04:22:29Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Ae you a European who wrote a famous study on the art of war? > IQ2: Do you keep your tobacco in a Persian slipper? > IQ3: Were you Maud’s opponent for a top job? > [@SCAdian](#): > > Student wrote a book? I’ll have to look for it… In the meantime, I’ll rephrase the question. > Yes, Sherlock Holmes. > Sam Spade??? > IQ1: Were you an 18th-century European who wrote a famous study on the art of war? > IQ2: Are you an American journalist famous for exploring central Africa? > IQ3: Did you compare Texas unfavourably with Hell? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Student and Spade were guesses. > > Dunno the first - the only two I can think of are Sun Tzu and Clausewitz. > Not Stanley or… Sheridan? The European I was looking for was Marshal de Saxe. (Jomini is another one to read if you’re interested in the subject.) Empress Mathilda (aka Maude or Maud) was supposed to become Queen of England on the death of her father, Henry I. Her cousin Stephen objected. Correct on Henry Morton Stanley, and on Phil Sheridan, who said “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell." Thinking… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/352 "2013-06-27T10:50:56Z")
O-kay, so were my questions disallowed, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/353 "2013-06-27T13:50:59Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > O-kay, so were my questions disallowed, or what? No one else said they knew those people, other than **SCAdian** ’s “sounds vaguely familiar” as to one. I think they might fail the as-well-known-as-Botticelli rule. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/354 "2013-06-27T14:00:33Z")
The Skeezix, I’ll grant you, is way obscure. Shadowfax is/was a fairly unknown band, even though they’ve been around since the 1970’s. Two of Sisley’s paintings sold at Sotheby’s this year for amounts in the millions, though, and his work is in the Musee d’Orsay. So: new IQs: 1. Were you prone to “Exit, stage left”? 2. Were you a movie cartoon character voiced by Billy Gilbert? 3. Are you the artist formerly known as Snoop Doggy Dogg? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/355 "2013-06-27T16:17:02Z")
IQ1: Did Elroy and Judy’s father work for you? IQ2: Were you a Luftwaffe sergeant working at Stalag 13? IQ3: Are you a pianist pursued by Miss Van Pelt? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/356 "2013-06-27T17:17:03Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you a Prime Minister of Canada? > IQ2: Are you the violinist who dubbed the music for the fiddler/actor in the film of ‘Fiddler on the Roof’? > IQ3: Are you the explorer who ‘discovered’ much of New France? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Stephen Harper. > Dunno the second. > Not La Salle. Stephen Harper, indeed. LaSalle wasn’t who I had in mind, but he’ll do nicely. #2 was **Isaac Stern** , an accomplished concert violinist with a recording career that spans 50 years. DQ - Did you die in battle? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/357 "2013-06-28T03:43:11Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > … So: new IQs: > > 1. Were you prone to “Exit, stage left”? > 2. Were you a movie cartoon character voiced by Billy Gilbert? > 3. Are you the artist formerly known as Snoop Doggy Dogg? Not Shakespeare, dunno the second, and if “Snoop” is an insufficient answer, dunno the third. > [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Did Elroy and Judy’s father work for you? > IQ2: Were you a Luftwaffe sergeant working at Stalag 13? > IQ3: Are you a pianist pursued by Miss Van Pelt? Not Mr. Spacely, Sgt. Schultz (“I see notheeeeeng!”), or Schroeder. S. 1. Real 2. Male 3. Last name begins with S 4. Dead 5. Died before 1900 6. Not American 7. Died before 1700 8. European 9. Political/military figure 10. Died after 1400 11. Died after 1550 12. Born east of the Rhine 13. Did not die in battle ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/358 "2013-06-28T10:51:14Z")
Snagglepuss (the other pink panther, and thorn-in-the-side to Quickdraw McGraw), not Shakespeare. Billy Gilbert was a character actor known for his prolonged comic sneezes, and Disney Studios created the character of Sneezy in Snow White around him. Snoop Doggy Dogg is now Snoop Lion. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/359 "2013-06-28T11:47:28Z")
:smack:…and that’s why I shouldn’t go to SDMB before I wake up. Of course, Shakespeare’s a perfectly good reply. DQ: Head of state? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/360 "2013-06-28T21:46:51Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Did Elroy and Judy’s father work for you? > IQ2: Were you a Luftwaffe sergeant working at Stalag 13? > IQ3: Are you a pianist pursued by Miss Van Pelt? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Mr. Spacely, Sgt. Schultz (“I see notheeeeeng!”), or Schroeder. Correct on all three. IQ1: Were you lost in time, as part of a government project? IQ2: Did you play the older daughter in a musical family? IQ3: Did you have to abort your trans-Antarctic expedition when your ship was trapped in the ice and sank? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899.md?page=19)