# Botticelli - June 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/361 "2013-06-29T03:19:46Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you lost in time, as part of a government project?  
> IQ2: Did you play the older daughter in a musical family?  
> IQ3: Did you have to abort your trans-Antarctic expedition when your ship was trapped in the ice and sank?

Dunno the first (from _Time Tunnel_?), not Susan Dey, and not the great Sir Ernest Shackleton.

S.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name begins with S
4. Dead
5. Died before 1900
6. Not American
7. Died before 1700
8. European
9. Political/military figure
10. Died after 1400
11. Died after 1550
12. Born east of the Rhine
13. Did not die in battle
14. Not a head of state

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/362 "2013-06-29T03:35:55Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you lost in time, as part of a government project?  
> IQ2: Did you play the older daughter in a musical family?  
> IQ3: Did you have to abort your trans-Antarctic expedition when your ship was trapped in the ice and sank?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno the first (from _Time Tunnel_?), not Susan Dey, and not the great Sir Ernest Shackleton.

Sam Beckett, from _Quantum Leap_. (The _Time Tunnel_ guys were Tony and Doug.)  
Correct on Susan and Sir Ernest.  
Um…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/363 "2013-06-29T13:34:20Z")

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IQs:

1. Was one of your supporters attacked in the Hugo-nominated short: “Fuck Me, Ray Bradbury”?
2. Did you compose _The Carnival of the Animals_?
3. Are you on the golden dollar?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/364 "2013-06-29T16:28:09Z")

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DQ: Notable in the Thirty Years War?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/365 "2013-06-29T17:20:22Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Was one of your supporters attacked in the Hugo-nominated short: “Fuck Me, Ray Bradbury”?
> 2. Did you compose _The Carnival of the Animals_?
> 3. Are you on the golden dollar?

Dunno the first, not Saint-Saens (sp?), not Susan B. Anthony.

S.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name begins with S
4. Dead
5. Died before 1900
6. Not American
7. Died before 1700
8. European
9. Political/military figure
10. Died after 1400
11. Died after 1550
12. Born east of the Rhine
13. Did not die in battle
14. Not a head of state
15. Not notable in the Thirty Years War

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/366 "2013-06-29T18:07:41Z")

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Stanislav Lem is the rival SF author mentioned. Saint-Saens is correct. Sacagawea is on the golden dollar coin.

Pondering…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/367 "2013-06-30T13:51:58Z")

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DQ1: Born north of Vienna?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/368 "2013-06-30T14:39:49Z")

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DQ: Primarily known as a political figure?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/369 "2013-06-30T19:27:02Z")

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IQ1: Were you told to hang on?  
IQ2: Do you have a two-pack habit and a motel tan?  
IQ3: Did you wite about a man who unexpextedly changed his residence to 6th-century Rome?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/370 "2013-07-01T02:05:31Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you told to hang on?  
> IQ2: Do you have a two-pack habit and a motel tan?  
> IQ3: Did you wite about a man who unexpextedly changed his residence to 6th-century Rome?

Not Luke Skywalker; dunno the other two.

S.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name begins with S
4. Dead
5. Died before 1900
6. Not American
7. Died before 1700
8. European
9. Political/military figure
10. Died after 1400
11. Died after 1550
12. Born east of the Rhine
13. Did not die in battle
14. Not a head of state
15. Not notable in the Thirty Years War
16. Born north of Vienna
17. Primarily known as a political figure

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/371 "2013-07-01T02:32:51Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you told to hang on?  
> IQ2: Do you have a two-pack habit and a motel tan?  
> IQ3: Did you wite about a man who unexpextedly changed his residence to 6th-century Rome?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Luke Skywalker; dunno the other two.

Luke seems the best match for IQ1 - not whom I was thinking of, but I suppose someone did tell him to hang onto something somewhere…  
Steve Earle included that description in his song _Guitar Town_.  
L Sprague de Camp wote about Martin Padway’s unexpexted move to Rome in _Lest Darkness Fall_. (Proofreading? We don’t need no stinkin’ proofreading!)  
16th- or 17th-century political figure born east of the Rhine and north of Vienna, not a head of state and not an important figure in the Thirty Years War. Huh.  
Can’t think of any useful DQs, so I guess I’ll while away the time with a few more IQs…

IQ1: Do you live in a very bad part of town?  
IQ2: Are you a sweet girl whom I’ll know if I see you?  
IQ3: Do I love you with a love so rare and true?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/372 "2013-07-01T13:56:27Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Luke seems the best match for IQ1 - not whom I was thinking of, but I suppose someone did tell him to hang onto something somewhere…
> 
> IQ1: Do you live in a very bad part of town?  
> IQ2: Are you a sweet girl whom I’ll know if I see you?  
> IQ3: Do I love you with a love so rare and true?

Not Sloopy; dunno the other two.

Han Solo told Luke and Ben Kenobi to hang on when they were making their escape from Tatooine.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/373 "2013-07-02T10:51:18Z")

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…well, I knew it wasn’t going to be easy…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/374 "2013-07-02T11:15:16Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Do you live in a very bad part of town?  
> IQ2: Are you a sweet girl whom I’ll know if I see you?  
> IQ3: Do I love you with a love so rare and true?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Not Sloopy; dunno the other two.

Sheila (from the Tommy Roe song) and Peggy Sue (from the song by Buddy Holly).  
DQ: German (Prussian, Brandenburger, &c)?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/375 "2013-07-02T13:51:13Z")

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S.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name begins with S
4. Dead
5. Died before 1900
6. Not American
7. Died before 1700
8. European
9. Political/military figure
10. Died after 1400
11. Died after 1550
12. Born east of the Rhine
13. Did not die in battle
14. Not a head of state
15. Not notable in the Thirty Years War
16. Born north of Vienna
17. Primarily known as a political figure
18. Not German by any definition

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/376 "2013-07-02T13:53:57Z")

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DQ: Russian?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/377 "2013-07-02T16:02:55Z")

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IQ: Are you a general for whom a creamy beef sauce is named?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/378 "2013-07-02T18:29:57Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Are you a general for whom a creamy beef sauce is named?

Drawing a blank. Take a DQ.

S.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name begins with S
4. Dead
5. Died before 1900
6. Not American
7. Died before 1700
8. European
9. Political/military figure
10. Died after 1400
11. Died after 1550
12. Born east of the Rhine
13. Did not die in battle
14. Not a head of state
15. Not notable in the Thirty Years War
16. Born north of Vienna
17. Primarily known as a political figure
18. Not German by any definition
19. Not Russian

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/379 "2013-07-02T21:14:20Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Are you a general for whom a creamy beef sauce is named?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Drawing a blank. Take a DQ.

Count Pavel Alexandreivich Stroganoff, Russian military officer and the person for whom Beef Stroganoff is named, according to some sources. I couldn’t remember his dates, but I thought he might be our mystery guest.

Off to think of a useful DQ - this might take a while…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/380 "2013-07-03T02:29:26Z")

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\<Thinking out loud\>

Polish, Lithuanian, Scandinavian… One Polish name comes to mind, but I have no idea if it’s from the right period, and I can’t remember enough about the man to ask an IQ.

\</Thinking out loud\>

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