# Botticelli - June 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/381 "2013-07-03T10:47:00Z")
Yeah, I got nuttin’. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/382 "2013-07-03T23:08:27Z")
I suppose I could try that Polish name as a DQ… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/383 "2013-07-04T01:56:30Z")
I say go for it. Couldn’t hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/384 "2013-07-04T05:19:58Z")
:: Raises an eyebrow; waits expectantly :: ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/385 "2013-07-04T17:02:44Z")
DQ: Are you Jan Sobieski? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/386 "2013-07-04T17:27:07Z")
S. 1. Real 2. Male 3. Last name begins with S 4. Dead 5. Died before 1900 6. Not American 7. Died before 1700 8. European 9. Political/military figure 10. Died after 1400 11. Died after 1550 12. Born east of the Rhine 13. Did not die in battle 14. Not a head of state 15. Not notable in the Thirty Years War 16. Born north of Vienna 17. Primarily known as a political figure 18. Not German by any definition 19. Not Russian 20. Not Jan Sobieski OK, that’s twenty DQs. Everyone who’s earned a DQ in this round may now ask a single “Are you [firstname lastname]?” question. ( **SCAdian** , you get another too, since you asked the Sobieski question as an in-round DQ). I’ll give you until, say, noon Sat. EST, then reveal the answer. A hint: Although European, this dude is remembered for what he did away from that continent. Tawk amongst yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/387 "2013-07-04T18:49:50Z")
Away from the continent, 16-17th C, means explorers/colonists to me. The only Scandinavian explorers I can think of at the moment are Leif Ericson, et al, who were a lot sooner. Or are there any notable Polish pirates? Think… ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/388 "2013-07-04T19:45:46Z")
Actually, it occurs to me that while most of the Netherlands is technically north of the Rhine, since it’s on the river’s right bank it could be called “east of the Rhine.” (Remember EH’s comment on the many twists and turns in the Rhine’s mostly northward course.) So rather than spend a lot of extra time thinking about this, I’m just going to go ahead and ask… DQ: Are you Pieter Stuyvesant? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/389 "2013-07-04T21:11:00Z")
Could be. Meanwhile, I’ll just throw out - what was the name of the guy who discovered Spitzbergen, and the northern currents that kept him bumping into it? Did his name start with an ‘S’? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/390 "2013-07-04T21:36:42Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > …DQ: Are you Pieter Stuyvesant? I am indeed!: [Peter Stuyvesant - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Stuyvesant) Well done. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/391 "2013-07-04T22:09:53Z")
Congratulations! I’d dismissed the Netherlands as west of the Rhine. Glad you caught it! ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/392 "2013-07-04T23:07:11Z")
Well done, **SCAdian**!! I should have paid more attention when we last sang from ‘Knickerbocker Holiday’. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/393 "2013-07-04T23:18:11Z")
Actually, it was Prof P’s mention of explorers and colonists that did it. (Thank you!) First I wondered if Svalbard had been named after its discoverer, then I tried to think of anyone who might have been connected with the Swedish colony in New Jersey (or was it Delaware?), and then I happened to think of Nieuw Amsterdam and Stuyvesant… (One branch of my mother’s family was there with Stuyvesant.) Hmm. I think this time I shall be H. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/394 "2013-07-05T01:21:11Z")
(You’re welcome!) IQs: 1. Were you the last cartoon character voiced by Mel Blanc? 2. Were you Shakespeare’s dead son for whom he almost named a play? 3. Were you the bridge-defending Cocles? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/395 "2013-07-05T02:12:12Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > (You’re welcome!) > IQs: > > 1. Were you the last cartoon character voiced by Mel Blanc? > 2. Were you Shakespeare’s dead son for whom he almost named a play? > 3. Were you the bridge-defending Cocles? Don’t know, not Henry(?), not Horatius. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/396 "2013-07-05T02:15:42Z")
Heathcliff (a cartoon cat from the comics); Hamnet died a year or so before Shakespeare wrote Hamlet. 1. Real? 2. Male? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/397 "2013-07-05T02:39:55Z")
IQ1: Were you a character who made Loretta Swit famous? IQ2: Are you a modern Irish poet? IQ3: Are you the creator of Dalziel and Pascoe? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/398 "2013-07-05T05:09:44Z")
Should we shift this to a July thread, or just keep going here? IQs: Was a President embarrassed when he misstated your name very publicly? Were you a family friend of a future First Lady? Did a young Pixar character share a first name with you? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/399 "2013-07-05T05:15:16Z")
IQ: Did you write the 1st written code of law? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/400 "2013-07-05T10:48:10Z")
1. Is a Doper’s name (which doesn’t start with H) based on yours? 2. Were you an artist in the humanist circle of Thomas More? 3. Are you green, incredible, and unlikable when angry? I don’t see any reason to start a new thread; let’s keep going with this one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899.md?page=21)