# Botticelli - June 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/401 "2013-07-05T21:44:06Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Were you a character who made Loretta Swit famous? > IQ2: Are you a modern Irish poet? > IQ3: Are you the creator of Dalziel and Pascoe? Not Margaret Houlihan. DQs for 2 and 3. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Should we shift this to a July thread, or just keep going here? > > IQs: > > Was a President embarrassed when he misstated your name very publicly? > Were you a family friend of a future First Lady? > Did a young Pixar character share a first name with you? Oops - never even thought of starting a new thread. Sorry about that… Take three DQs (though that second one is bugging me). > [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Did you write the 1st written code of law? Not Hammurabi. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > 1. Is a Doper’s name (which doesn’t start with H) based on yours? > 2. Were you an artist in the humanist circle of Thomas More? > 3. Are you green, incredible, and unlikable when angry? > > I don’t see any reason to start a new thread; let’s keep going with this one. Not The Incredible Hulk. DQs for 1 and 2. Might as well, as we’ve gone this far… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/402 "2013-07-05T22:57:00Z")
#1 is Harpo Marx (Xapno Mapcase took his name from the way Harpo transliterated the Russian version of his name when he toured Russia.) #2 is Hans Holbein the Younger. Waiting on answers to previous DQs before I ask more. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/403 "2013-07-06T00:00:22Z")
Oops - sorry about that! This weather is frying my brain… **H** 1. Real 2. Male And I thought of Holbein, too, dammit… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/404 "2013-07-06T00:02:29Z")
DQs: 1. Alive? 2. European? I thought you might remember Holbein, since you said you loved Vermeer’s work. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/405 "2013-07-06T01:04:38Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Were you a character who made Loretta Swit famous? > IQ2: Are you a modern Irish poet? > IQ3: Are you the creator of Dalziel and Pascoe? > [@SCAdian](#): > > Not Margaret Houlihan. DQs for 2 and 3. 1. Right, quite right, you’re bloody well right… 2. is **Seamus Heaney** , an outstanding Irish poet/writer/translator. 3. is **Reginald Hill** , British mystery writer. His best known series features Dalziel and Pascoe, two policemen whose mis-matched natures make them an ideal team. DQ1 - Is ‘H’ the initial letter of your last name? DQ2 - Are you renowned for your contributions to The Arts, broadly defined? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/406 "2013-07-06T01:10:31Z")
IQs: 1. Were you the title star of a silent comic strip in the 1950s-60s about a bald kid? 2. Did you star in a movie with Sally Field and Harrison Ford about a vet who wants to be a worm farmer? 3. Are you “the boy who lived”? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/407 "2013-07-06T01:11:58Z")
IQ1: Are you bad, like Jesse James? IQ2: Did you depict a Rake’s Progress through your engravings? IQ3: Did the Flower Power generation seem to particularly grok your most popular work? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/408 "2013-07-06T02:15:28Z")
Let’s do these first, this time… 🙂 > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > DQs: > > 1. Alive? > 2. European? > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > DQ1 - Is ‘H’ the initial letter of your last name? > DQ2 - Are you renowned for your contributions to The Arts, broadly defined? **H** 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. Not European 5. ‘H’ is initial of last name 6. Known for contributions to the broadly defined Arts ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/409 "2013-07-06T02:26:05Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you the title star of a silent comic strip in the 1950s-60s about a bald kid? > 2. Did you star in a movie with Sally Field and Harrison Ford about a vet who wants to be a worm farmer? > 3. Are you “the boy who lived”? Neither Henry nor Harry Potter. DQ for 2. Worm farmer??? > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you bad, like Jesse James? > IQ2: Did you depict a Rake’s Progress through your engravings? > IQ3: Did the Flower Power generation seem to particularly grok your most popular work? Neither Hogarth nor Heinlein. DQ for 1. That’s one of two Heinleins that I could never manage to finish… ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/410 "2013-07-06T02:42:48Z")
1. and 3. are correct. #1. is **John Lee Hooker** , and that’s a direct quotation from ‘I’m bad like Jesse James’. DQ: Were you born after 1900 AD? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/411 "2013-07-06T03:00:05Z")
**H** 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. Not European 5. ‘H’ is initial of last name 6. Known for contributions to the broadly defined Arts 7. Born after AD 1900 Question for all: What would your opinion be of Thomas Woodrow Wilson as a ‘T,’ or John Calvin Coolidge as a ‘J’? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/412 "2013-07-06T03:50:11Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Was a President embarrassed when he misstated your name very publicly? > Were you a family friend of a future First Lady? > Did a young Pixar character share a first name with you? > [@SCAdian](#): > > …Take three DQs (though that second one is bugging me)… Jimmy Carter exuberantly referred, in a speech at the 1980 Democratic National Convention, to “Hubert… Horatio… Hornblower [caught himself] HUMPHREY!” Whig titan Henry Clay was a friend of Mary Todd’s family. Dashiell “Dash” Parr, very fast kid in _The Incredibles_, and Dashiell Hammett, writer. DQs: American? Died since 1950? Actor? IQs: Does your statue stand outside the Massachusetts State House? Are you usually not rated by the pros when your peers are? Was your first name Rubeus? > [@SCAdian](#): > > …Question for all: What would your opinion be of Thomas Woodrow Wilson as a ‘T,’ or John Calvin Coolidge as a ‘J’? I don’t think that’s fair play, since those are not the names by which they’re commonly known; likewise Stephen Grover Cleveland. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/413 "2013-07-06T14:19:15Z")
The movie is Heroes, with Henry Winkler as a troubled vet. It came out shortly after Happy Days ended and Winkler thought he could have a career as a leading man. It was a dramedy. I agree with Elendil’s Heir. J. Paul McCartney is a P, not a J. I’ll hold onto my DQ for the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/414 "2013-07-06T14:39:17Z")
IQ1: Are you a prophet? IQ2: Are you a different prophet? IQ3: Are you a king of Tyre? For me, it depends on the obscurity of the middle/other name. In your two examples, I didn’t even know Woodrow Wilson or Calvin Coolidge had another name. In the case of, say, John Paul Jones, (Bass, keyboards for Led Zeppelin for you young folk.) I reckon he’s fair game under both ‘J’ and ‘P’, because I’ve never heard him called just ‘John’ or ‘Paul’, always ‘John Paul’. For the record, his nickname is ‘Jonesy’. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/415 "2013-07-06T22:37:13Z")
Okay, let’s try this again… (Computer was being non-cooperative this morning.) **H** 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. Not European 5. ‘H’ is initial of last name 6. Known for contributions to the broadly defined Arts 7. Born after AD 1900 8. American 9. Died since 1950 10. Not an actor Thank you, EH - I knew there was a third president on that list, but couldn’t remember offhand who it was. Thank you also, Prof P - I didn’t know Sir Paul’s first name wasn’t Paul. For the record, I agree with the two of you. Never heard of your JPJ, Le Ministre (not the sort of music I listen to) - to me, JPJ is a long-dead naval officer. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/416 "2013-07-06T22:41:02Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Does your statue stand outside the Massachusetts State House? > Are you usually not rated by the pros when your peers are? > Was your first name Rubeus? Neither Alexander Hamilton nor Hagrid. DQ for 2, and for 1 as well if I guessed wrong. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you a prophet? > IQ2: Are you a different prophet? > IQ3: Are you a king of Tyre? Not Habakkuk, Hosea or Hiram. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/417 "2013-07-06T23:13:20Z")
DQ: Musician or singer? IQs: 1. Did Martin & Lewis find you chained to a wall with a friend at the end of _Ghost Breakers_? 2. Did you compose _Star Dust_? 3. Is your residence in Indianapolis on the National Register of Historic Places? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/418 "2013-07-06T23:56:52Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > DQ: Musician or singer? > > IQs: > > 1. Did Martin & Lewis find you chained to a wall with a friend at the end of _Ghost Breakers_? > 2. Did you compose _Star Dust_? > 3. Is your residence in Indianapolis on the National Register of Historic Places? **H** 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. Not European 5. ‘H’ is initial of last name 6. Known for contributions to the broadly defined Arts 7. Born after AD 1900 8. American 9. Died since 1950 10. Not an actor 11. Not a musician or singer No idea on 1 and 2. For 3 I’m going to take a wild guess and say that I’m not Benjamin Harrison. Take two or three DQs, as appropriate. Why would anyone want to live in Indianapolis? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/419 "2013-07-07T00:08:40Z")
IQ: Did Billy Joel mention you in the song _Big Shot_? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/420 "2013-07-07T00:54:28Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Did Billy Joel mention you in the song _Big Shot_? DQ. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899.md?page=22)