# Botticelli - June 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/421 "2013-07-07T01:01:15Z")
That was Halston DQ: Die of natural causes? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/422 "2013-07-07T01:49:55Z")
#1 is Bob Hope (Bing was the friend he was hanging with); #2 is Hoagy Carmichael; Ben Harrison is right. Living in Indy’s not bad: we have art museums, zoos, opera, theater, a couple of SCA chapters, the Indianapolis 500, the Colts, the Pacers, etc., etc. It’s green and the the weather’s only bad in the heat of summer and the cold of winter. DQ: Painter or sculptor? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/423 "2013-07-07T02:00:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Does your statue stand outside the Massachusetts State House? > Are you usually not rated by the pros when your peers are? > Was your first name Rubeus? > [@SCAdian](#): > > Neither Alexander Hamilton nor Hagrid. DQ for 2, and for 1 as well if I guessed wrong… Not Hamilton, but Maj. Gen. Joseph Hooker. William Henry Harrison, usually left off historians’ ratings of the Presidents due to his too-short administration. Yes, Hagrid. DQs: Won the top award in your field? One DQ reserved. IQs: Although an accomplished leader, did you make the same mistake twice? Did a cartoonist show you with a much-too-big hat? Did a kitten almost leap into your daughter’s arms? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/424 "2013-07-07T13:48:15Z")
Hmph. A Biblical scholar, I see. I was actually after a different prophet, but I sense I’m merely playing to your strength. IQ1: Are you a character played by Dan Blocker? IQ2: Are you a character played by Adam Sandler? IQ3: Are you a character played by Laurence Olivier, Mel Gibson and Kenneth Brannagh? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/425 "2013-07-07T22:27:06Z")
**H** 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. Not European 5. ‘H’ is initial of last name 6. Known for contributions to the broadly defined Arts 7. Born after AD 1900 8. American 9. Died since 1950 10. Not an actor 11. Not a musician or singer 12. Cause of death not announced, but presumably natural causes 13. Not a painter or sculptor 14. Won many awards, but I’m not sure if there is a top award in this field (does Hall of Fame count?) ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/426 "2013-07-07T22:32:34Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Although an accomplished leader, did you make the same mistake twice? > Did a cartoonist show you with a much-too-big hat? > Did a kitten almost leap into your daughter’s arms? Three DQs. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you a character played by Dan Blocker? > IQ2: Are you a character played by Adam Sandler? > IQ3: Are you a character played by Laurence Olivier, Mel Gibson and Kenneth Brannagh? Not Hoss Cartwright or Hamlet. DQ for 2. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/427 "2013-07-07T23:12:02Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Although an accomplished leader, did you make the same mistake twice? > Did a cartoonist show you with a much-too-big hat? > Did a kitten almost leap into your daughter’s arms? > [@SCAdian](#): > > Three DQs… Adm. William Halsey twice had his fleet caught in typhoons. Benjamin Harrison was shown wearing his grandfather’s hat, which was clearly too big, implying he wasn’t up to the job as President. Hillary Clinton and her family acquired Socks the cat when he was very friendly to Chelsea. DQs: Best known for an art form that you see? Died since 1980? Two DQs reserved. IQs: Were you the wife of a long-serving Republican governor? Did you give a government agent a drink you knew would be unpleasant for him? Did your dad train you to be a tiny badass? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/428 "2013-07-07T23:40:44Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Adm. William Halsey twice had his fleet caught in typhoons. > Benjamin Harrison was shown wearing his grandfather’s hat, which was clearly too big, implying he wasn’t up to the job as President. > Hillary Clinton and her family acquired Socks the cat when he was very friendly to Chelsea. > > * * * > > IQs: > > Were you the wife of a long-serving Republican governor? > Did you give a government agent a drink you knew would be unpleasant for him? > Did your dad train you to be a tiny badass? Benjamin Harrison: ZUI posts 418 and 422. Three DQs. Gerald Ford was in one of those Typhoons, IIRC… ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/429 "2013-07-07T23:46:39Z")
**H** 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. Not European 5. ‘H’ is initial of last name 6. Known for contributions to the broadly defined Arts 7. Born after AD 1900 8. American 9. Died since 1950 10. Not an actor 11. Not a musician or singer 12. Cause of death not announced, but presumably natural causes 13. Not a painter or sculptor 14. Won many awards, but I’m not sure if there is a top award in this field (does Hall of Fame count?) 15. Not best known for an art form that can be seen 16. Died since 1980 IRT 6: I may be defining the Arts slightly more broadly than before, but I certainly can’t think of any other way to classify this. And part of it does definitely come under the heading of entertainment of some sort… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/430 "2013-07-08T01:43:11Z")
DQ: Best known for TV appearances? IQs: 1. Were you paired up with Maurice Chevalier in Gigi? 2. Are you usually credited with the discovery of Uranus? 3. Did you insist in your will that none of your poems be set to music, then found yourself posthumously thwarted when musicals were made from your novels? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/431 "2013-07-08T01:52:15Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you the wife of a long-serving Republican governor? > Did you give a government agent a drink you knew would be unpleasant for him? > Did your dad train you to be a tiny badass? Happy Rockefeller, wife of Nelson. Hogarth Hughes, in _The Iron Giant_. The lead character in the recent thriller _Hanna_. Sorry - I’d overlooked Benjamin Harrison earlier. Withdrawn. DQs: Best known for a single work of art or incident? Best known for an art form that is listened to? Died since 2000? IQs: Were you a diplomat with a fishy name? Did someone hide behind you when you were both under enemy fire? Were you a carpenter when your other, later much more successful, career seemed to have stalled? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/432 "2013-07-08T01:57:52Z")
[table talk] What about cuisine? Any American chefs who fit those dates?[/table talk] ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/433 "2013-07-08T02:01:35Z")
**H** 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. Not European 5. ‘H’ is initial of last name 6. Known for contributions to the broadly defined Arts 7. Born after AD 1900 8. American 9. Died since 1950 10. Not an actor 11. Not a musician or singer 12. Cause of death not announced, but presumably natural causes 13. Not a painter or sculptor 14. Won many awards, but I’m not sure if there is a top award in this field (does Hall of Fame count?) 15. Not best known for an art form that can be seen 16. Died since 1980 17. Not best known for TV appearances 18. Not best known for a single work of art or incident 19. Best known for an art form that is listened to 20. Died since 2000 Well, that’s 20. Though I’m tempted to dump 9 and 16, as having been superseded by 20… ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/434 "2013-07-08T02:03:36Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you paired up with Maurice Chevalier in Gigi? > 2. Are you usually credited with the discovery of Uranus? > 3. Did you insist in your will that none of your poems be set to music, then found yourself posthumously thwarted when musicals were made from your novels? Not William(?) Herschel or Victor Hugo. DQ for 1. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you a diplomat with a fishy name? > Did someone hide behind you when you were both under enemy fire? > Were you a carpenter when your other, later much more successful, career seemed to have stalled? Three DQs. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [table talk] What about cuisine? Any American chefs who fit those dates?[/table talk] ZUI DQ 19… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/435 "2013-07-08T02:06:46Z")
Hermione Gingold in Gigi. (She was also in The Music Man.) Time to turn up the volume on the old Thinkometer. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/436 "2013-07-08T15:43:06Z")
Sound effects? Sound editor? Foley artist? I confess, I’m stuck - actor, musician (by which I’m assuming you mean ‘instrumentalist’ - singers are musicians, too, and excluding them from the umbrella term ‘musician’ causes ill will amongst fellow singers…) cover many other jobs in ‘art forms that you listen to’. Conductor - musician. Radio performer - actor. Radio Disc Jockey - actor and sometimes musician. Record producer - most of the ones I can think of are musicians. Puzzling… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/437 "2013-07-08T15:51:41Z")
I don’t think I’d classify a DJ as an actor as such. Performer, but not actor. OTOH, I can’t think of a notable DJ whose last name starts with “H” unless it’s Wolfman Jack (whose last name I don’t know). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/438 "2013-07-08T16:22:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …IQs: > > Were you a diplomat with a fishy name? > Did someone hide behind you when you were both under enemy fire? > Were you a carpenter when your other, later much more successful, career seemed to have stalled? > [@SCAdian](#): > > Three DQs… Hamilton Fish, U.S. Grant’s SecState. Henry Knox, who was quite large, while being shelled at Yorktown. Knox was said to be both irritated and amused. Harrison Ford. Our mystery person could also be a radio announcer or talk-show host. Can’t think of any who’ve died since 2000, though. Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/439 "2013-07-08T16:34:15Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/440 "2013-07-09T15:38:25Z")
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