# Botticelli - June 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/41 "2013-06-04T02:04:25Z")

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DQ1) Fictional  
DQ2) Male  
DQ3) Literary character  
DQ4) Would not be alive today if real  
DQ5) Not a military character  
DQ6) Not American  
DQ7) Work written before 1900  
DQ8) Not originally written in English  
DQ9) Work written after 1700  
DQ10) Written in French

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/42 "2013-06-04T02:28:54Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Speaking of the Singing Nun, are you she?  
> IQ2: Did you sing about guitars, Cadillacs and hillbilly music?  
> IQ3: Were you a big man, with an eye like an eagle and as tall as a mountain?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> As far as I remember the Singing Nun was Sister Sourire (or something like that). So, take a DQ for that one. Madame Pepperwinkle and I have been to see Dwight Yoakam in concert (she’s a fan). Ed Ames played Mingo to Fess Parker’s Daniel Boone. Yeah, I’m old.

Soeur Sourire’s real name was Jeanine Deckers.  
Correct on Dwight Yoakam and Daniel Boone. (You answered while I was rewriting the question to be a little more obscure, but you probably would have gotten it anyway. :()

I’m 59.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/43 "2013-06-04T03:09:31Z")

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DQ1: Did you have a horse named Horse?  
DQ2: Did you offend three of the king’s musketeers and have to fight duels with them - all on the same day?  
DQ3: Did you play a man who had to hold up a stagecoach, steal a girl, and trade her for a gun?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/44 "2013-06-04T10:47:23Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ1: Did you have a horse named Horse?  
> DQ2: Did you offend three of the king’s musketeers and have to fight duels with them - all on the same day?  
> DQ3: Did you play a man who had to hold up a stagecoach, steal a girl, and trade her for a gun?

I am not Dudley Do-Right. I am not D’Artagnan. Take a DQ for #3.

I am also 59., and yeah, I would have gotten Dan’l anyway.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/45 "2013-06-04T11:21:52Z")

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IQ1: Are you a character from Puccini, Massenet and (originally) Prévost?  
IQ2: Are you the last Steward of Gondor?  
IQ3: Did you set down ‘the ten inalienable rights of the Reader’?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/46 "2013-06-04T11:45:07Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a character from Puccini, Massenet and (originally) Prévost?  
> IQ2: Are you the last Steward of Gondor?  
> IQ3: Did you set down ‘the ten inalienable rights of the Reader’?

I am not Denethor. Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/47 "2013-06-04T11:59:29Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ1: Did you have a horse named Horse?  
> DQ2: Did you offend three of the king’s musketeers and have to fight duels with them - all on the same day?  
> DQ3: Did you play a man who had to hold up a stagecoach, steal a girl, and trade her for a gun?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I am not Dudley Do-Right. I am not D’Artagnan. Take a DQ for #3.

Correct on Dudley and D’Artagnan.  
Dean Martin’s character, Baker, had to do those things in _Something Big_.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/48 "2013-06-04T17:23:04Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a character from Puccini, Massenet and (originally) Prévost?  
> IQ2: Are you the last Steward of Gondor?  
> IQ3: Did you set down ‘the ten inalienable rights of the Reader’?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I am not Denethor. Take 2 DQs.

#1 is the **Chevalier Des Grieux** , from the novel ‘Manon Lescault’ by Abbé Prévost, which has been made into an opera twice, by Puccini and by Massenet.

#3 is **Daniel Pennac** , contemporary French author. He is known for the Malaussène series of novels, but also very famous for the book ‘Comme un roman’, which has been twice translated into English under the titles ‘Better than Life’ or ‘Reads Like a Novel’. The ten inalienable rights of the Reader are from ‘Comme un roman’.

Now, I thought I might have had you there with des Grieux. Personally, I’d file him under ‘G’ rather than ‘D’, but that is a strange feature of French names. For the sake of utter fairness, I’ll pass on that DQ and just take one for M. Pennac.  
DQ: Is ‘D’ the initial letter of your first name?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/49 "2013-06-04T18:07:53Z")

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DQ1) Fictional  
DQ2) Male  
DQ3) Literary character  
DQ4) Would not be alive today if real  
DQ5) Not a military character  
DQ6) Not American  
DQ7) Work written before 1900  
DQ8) Not originally written in English  
DQ9) Work written after 1700  
DQ10) Written in French  
DQ11) D is not the initial of my first name

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/50 "2013-06-04T18:09:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Le Ministre de l’au-delà;16350747Now, I thought I might have had you there with des Grieux. Personally, I’d file him under ‘G’ rather than ‘D’, but that is a strange feature of French names. For the sake of utter fairness, I’ll pass on that DQ and just take one for M. Pennac.  
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No, as a former librarian I understand the need for indexing “des Grieux” under the D’s. For the sake of even more utter fairness, please take another DQ.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/51 "2013-06-04T20:26:24Z")

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> IQ1: Are you a British guitarist prone to on-stage fistfights with your brother?

Dave Davies of the Kinks.

DQ: Are you the hero or protagonist of the work in which you appear?

IQ1: Have you been portrayed on screen by Robert Donet, Richard Chamberlain, and Gerard Depardieu, among others?  
IQ2: Does an absurd graphic novel depict you in a loving relationship with the former singer of Black Flag?  
IQ3: Did you provide the name for a style of cut-off demin shorts?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/52 "2013-06-04T22:07:31Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Dave Davies of the Kinks.
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> DQ: Are you the hero or protagonist of the work in which you appear?
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> **IQ1: Have you been portrayed on screen by Robert Donat, Richard Chamberlain, and Gerard Depardieu, among others?**  
> IQ2: Does an absurd graphic novel depict you in a loving relationship with the former singer of Black Flag?  
> IQ3: Did you provide the name for a style of cut-off demin shorts?

I am indeed Edmond Dantes, the Count of Monte Cristo! Congratulations once again, ChockFull!

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/53 "2013-06-04T22:57:57Z")

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Well done, **ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness**!

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/54 "2013-06-05T00:25:26Z")

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D’Artigan was already ruled out, and Dantes was the only other French literature ‘D’ I could think of.

Wrapping up:  
Glenn Danzig appears in the comic “Henry & Glenn Forever” which depicts the former Misfits singers in a relationship with Henry Rollins (and battling their Satanic neighbors Hall and Oates)

Daisy Duke shorts were named after the character in The Dukes of Hazzard.

I’ll have to think up the next round.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/55 "2013-06-05T06:26:04Z")

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Next up,  
**B**

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/56 "2013-06-05T06:29:39Z")

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IQ: Do some historians believe you were the 1st gay POTUS?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/57 "2013-06-05T12:27:02Z")

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IQ1) Did you have a horse named Sparkplug?  
IQ2) Were you recently Prime Minister of England?  
IQ3) Were you the fifth Doctor?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/58 "2013-06-05T14:04:51Z")

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IQ1: Did you switch the death potion for the love potion so that your mistress wouldn’t die?  
IQ2: Were you the most beloved of Wotan’s daughters, for a time?  
IQ3: Are you the uncle of Lancelot?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/59 "2013-06-05T16:02:57Z")

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IQ1: Did you rush out to save a teenager who had wandered into the area where a new bomb was being tested?  
IQ2: Are you a Marine pilot who received the Medal of Honor in WW II?  
IQ3: Did you have 500 hats?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/60 "2013-06-05T16:27:52Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Do some historians believe you were the 1st gay POTUS?

Not the only bachelor POTUS, James Buchanan

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQ1) Did you have a horse named Sparkplug?  
> IQ2) Were you recently Prime Minister of England?  
> IQ3) Were you the fifth Doctor?

IQ1: Take a DQ  
IQ2: Not Tony Blair  
IQ3: Not Tom Baker

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Did you switch the death potion for the love potion so that your mistress wouldn’t die?  
> IQ2: Were you the most beloved of Wotan’s daughters, for a time?  
> IQ3: Are you the uncle of Lancelot?

IQ2: Not Brunhilde. Take DQs for the other 2.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you rush out to save a teenager who had wandered into the area where a new bomb was being tested?  
> IQ2: Are you a Marine pilot who received the Medal of Honor in WW II?  
> IQ3: Did you have 500 hats?

IQ3: Not Bartholomew Cubbins. Take 2 DQs for the others.

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