# Botticelli - June 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/101 "2013-06-07T18:51:57Z")

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IQ: Are you engaged to a singer whose been a Legend his whole life?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/102 "2013-06-07T19:34:27Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you cost your team a championship by calling a timeout you didn’t have?

Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/103 "2013-06-07T19:37:29Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Are you engaged to a singer whose been a Legend his whole life?

All I’m coming up with is Miley Cyrus. If not, take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/104 "2013-06-07T21:59:20Z")

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IQ1: Do the Germans call you Karl der Grosse?  
IQ2: Were you half of a duo that sang "Yesterday’s Gone?  
IQ3: Were you half of a duo that sang "Yesterday’s Gone?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/105 "2013-06-07T22:06:33Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a composer who was known as ‘not the Pope’?  
> IQ2: Were you a Lydian king who should have asked for a more precise answer?  
> IQ3: Were you a Lydian king who shouldn’t have bragged about his wife?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I’m not Candaules, but take DQ’s for 1 and 2.

#1 is known to us now as ‘ **Clemens non Papa** ’, or ‘Clement, not the Pope’. There are various theories as to why he needed to be distinguished from Pope Clement, who died before any of Clemens non Papa’s music was ever published, but none of them are conclusive. My personal theory is just that Pope Clement had been such a naughty boy that subsequent generations wanted nothing to do with that name and reputation…

#2 is **Croesus** , arguably more famous for his wealth, but also known to us from Herodotus for asking the oracle at Delphi whether he should attack the Persians. The response from the oracle said that if he attacked, a great empire would fall. Sadly, the great empire that fell was his own.

And the story of Candaules and Gyges is exactly what I was referring to, both stories from The Histories of Herodotus.

DQ1: Are you real?  
DQ2: Are you male?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/106 "2013-06-07T22:44:06Z")

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Mine were

1)Chris Webber  
2)Chrissy Teigen

DQ1:Involved in Athletics?  
DQ2:Politician?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/107 "2013-06-08T02:17:20Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Do the Germans call you Karl der Grosse?  
> IQ2: Were you half of a duo that sang "Yesterday’s Gone?  
> IQ3: Were you half of a duo that sang "Yesterday’s Gone?

I’m not Charlemagne. I’m not Chad (of Chad and Jeremy). Take a DQ for the other.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/108 "2013-06-08T02:19:01Z")

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DQ1) Alive.  
DQ2) Real.  
DQ3) Female.  
DQ4) Not involved in athletics.  
DQ5) Not a politician.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/109 "2013-06-08T02:51:47Z")

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IQ: Did your late husband pioneer grunge music?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/110 "2013-06-08T11:33:13Z")

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IQ1: Were you given the gift of perfect prophecy, along with the curse that no one would believe you?  
IQ2: Did you discover a division in the ring around Saturn?  
IQ3: Did you get the last out of the 1992 World Series, and then score the winning run in the last game of the 1993 World Series?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/111 "2013-06-08T11:46:42Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did your late husband pioneer grunge music?

I am not Courtney Love.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/112 "2013-06-08T11:47:46Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Were you given the gift of perfect prophecy, along with the curse that no one would believe you?  
> IQ2: Did you discover a division in the ring around Saturn?  
> IQ3: Did you get the last out of the 1992 World Series, and then score the winning run in the last game of the 1993 World Series?

I am neither Cassandra nor Cassini. Take a DQ for #3.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/113 "2013-06-08T12:55:21Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Do the Germans call you Karl der Grosse?  
> IQ2: Were you half of a duo that sang "Yesterday’s Gone?  
> IQ3: Were you half of a duo that sang "Yesterday’s Gone?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I’m not Charlemagne. I’m not Chad (of Chad and Jeremy). Take a DQ for the other.

Correct on Charlemagne and Chad Stuart.  
Jeremy Clyde was the other half of Chad and Jeremy.  
DQ: Involved in the arts?  
IQ1: Did you build it one piece at a time?  
IQ2: Did you have some dreams that were clouds in your coffee?  
IQ3: Were you the son of an Earthman and a Martian princess?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/114 "2013-06-08T13:49:27Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Were you given the gift of perfect prophecy, along with the curse that no one would believe you?  
> IQ2: Did you discover a division in the ring around Saturn?  
> IQ3: Did you get the last out of the 1992 World Series, and then score the winning run in the last game of the 1993 World Series?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I am neither Cassandra nor Cassini. Take a DQ for #3.

Correct. #3 was **Joe Carter** of the Toronto Blue Jays. The footage of him ‘running’ all the bases and jumping in the air is a YouTube classic, along with the announcer saying 'Touch ‘em all, Joe; you’ll never hit a bigger home run!’ A great moment in Toronto’s history… (sigh…)

DQ: Are you an American?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/115 "2013-06-08T17:19:07Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you build it one piece at a time?  
> IQ2: Did you have some dreams that were clouds in your coffee?  
> IQ3: Were you the son of an Earthman and a Martian princess?

I’m not Carly Simon, and not Carthoris . DQ for #1.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/116 "2013-06-08T17:20:08Z")

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DQ1) Alive.  
DQ2) Real.  
DQ3) Female.  
DQ4) Not involved in athletics.  
DQ5) Not a politician.  
DQ6) Involved in the arts.  
DQ7) American.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/117 "2013-06-08T18:22:51Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you build it one piece at a time?  
> IQ2: Did you have some dreams that were clouds in your coffee?  
> IQ3: Were you the son of an Earthman and a Martian princess?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I’m not Carly Simon, and not Carthoris . DQ for #1.

Correct on Carly Simon and Carthoris.  
Johnny Cash sang “One Piece at a Time.”  
DQ: Born after 1960?  
IQ1: Was Mr Harley Quin one of your characters?  
IQ2: Did you cover your father’s song, “Tennessee Flat Top Box”?  
IQ3: Did you write the Rootabaga stories?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/118 "2013-06-08T18:28:01Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Was Mr Harley Quin one of your characters?  
> IQ2: Did you cover your father’s song, “Tennessee Flat Top Box”?  
> IQ3: Did you write the Rootabaga stories?

I think #1 is one Agatha Christie. The Rootabaga stories are my favorite of Carl Sandburg’s writings. Take a DQ for #2.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/119 "2013-06-08T18:29:02Z")

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DQ1) Alive.  
DQ2) Real.  
DQ3) Female.  
DQ4) Not involved in athletics.  
DQ5) Not a politician.  
DQ6) Involved in the arts.  
DQ7) American.  
DQ8) Born before 1960.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/120 "2013-06-08T18:44:53Z")

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Oh, man, how did I miss this thread?

IQs:

Were you a family friend of the young Mary Todd’s?  
Did a VIP give a toast that was seen as a direct rebuke to you?  
Were you last (officially) seen in a little red wagon?

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