# Botticelli - June 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899 "2013-06-01T22:55:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/141 "2013-06-10T16:54:43Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you have a torrid affair with a married man at Hilton Head, S.C.?  
> Did your character exult at having a sink between your bed and that of a friend?  
> Have you played a rich but foolish New Yorker, a tough-as-nails high school student, and the First Lady?

I’m not Stockard Channing. Take 2 DQs.

BTW, my wife got me the Avengers on DVD. I believe I’ve identified you in the scene at the 39 minute mark.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/142 "2013-06-11T01:22:08Z")

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IQ1: Was your father a ventriloquist?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/143 "2013-06-11T01:26:11Z")

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I am not Candice Bergan, Charlie McCarthy’s “little sister”.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/144 "2013-06-11T02:21:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you have a torrid affair with a married man at Hilton Head, S.C.?  
> Did your character exult at having a sink between your bed and that of a friend?  
> Have you played a rich but foolish New Yorker, a tough-as-nails high school student, and the First Lady?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I’m not Stockard Channing. Take 2 DQs.
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> BTW, my wife got me the Avengers on DVD. I believe I’ve identified you in the scene at the 39 minute mark.

Clara Barton, founder of the Red Cross, during the Civil War; and Cindy Williams on _Laverne & Shirley_. Correct as to Stockard Channing, in _Six Degrees of Separation, Grease_ and _The West Wing_.

As to _The Avengers_, hooray! See this thread, and esp. posts 61 through 76: [I was an Avengers extra - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=650920)

DQs:

Biggest TV fame before 1980?

Two DQs reserved. Any suggestions, sportsfans?

IQs:

Were you an understudy who once had to put on the wig of a lead actress, finding that it was still damp from her sweat?  
Did Ryan Stiles often impersonate you on _Whose Line Is It Anyway?_  
Did the actress who later played your wife once play your landlady?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/145 "2013-06-11T02:41:05Z")

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Any soaps actresses who would qualify? I don’t know the soap operas at all…

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/146 "2013-06-11T05:53:05Z")

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IQ: Did you help teach 4 teen girls the “Facts of Life”?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/147 "2013-06-11T11:59:18Z")

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> IQ: Did you help teach 4 teen girls the “Facts of Life”?

I am not Charlotte Rae.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/148 "2013-06-11T12:02:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you an understudy who once had to put on the wig of a lead actress, finding that it was still damp from her sweat?  
> Did Ryan Stiles often impersonate you on _Whose Line Is It Anyway?_  
> Did the actress who later played your wife once play your landlady?

Well, once again, take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/149 "2013-06-11T12:03:27Z")

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DQ1) Alive.  
DQ2) Real.  
DQ3) Female.  
DQ4) Not involved in athletics.  
DQ5) Not a politician.  
DQ6) Involved in the arts.  
DQ7) American.  
DQ8) Born before 1960.  
DQ9) Not a musician.  
DQ10) Actress.  
DQ11) Still working, but not nearly as active in her field.  
DQ12) Not known for film work.  
DQ13) C is not the initial of the last name.  
DQ14) Has never won an Emmy.  
DQ15) Has appeared on TV within the last two years.  
DQ16) Was a cast member for a big ratings show.  
DQ17) Not best known as a comic actress.  
DQ18) Biggest TV fame after 1980.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/150 "2013-06-11T17:51:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you an understudy who once had to put on the wig of a lead actress, finding that it was still damp from her sweat?  
> Did Ryan Stiles often impersonate you on _Whose Line Is It Anyway?_  
> Did the actress who later played your wife once play your landlady?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Well, once again, take 3 DQs.

Glenn Close, early in her stage career.  
Carol Channing.  
Carroll O’Connor was on _The Defenders_ with Jean Stapleton years before she was cast as Archie Bunker’s wife Edith.

So we have a living American actress, first name beginning with “C,” who was a cast member for a big-ratings show but never won an Emmy, not known as a comedienne, with her biggest fame after 1980.

Hmmm.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/151 "2013-06-11T17:55:08Z")

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Right, now that you say that I can just see and hear Ryan doing Carol. Hilarious!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/152 "2013-06-11T18:24:23Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Any soaps actresses who would qualify? I don’t know the soap operas at all…

Only soaps actress I can name offhand is Genie Francis.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> So we have a living American actress, first name beginning with “C,” who was a cast member for a big-ratings show but never won an Emmy, not known as a comedienne, with her biggest fame after 1980.

The “after 1980” part is the big thing that leaves me clueless…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/153 "2013-06-11T18:41:50Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Right, now that you say that I can just see and hear Ryan doing Carol. Hilarious!

I’ve heard Ryan “doing” Carol many times, but had never actually seen/heard Carol, so I looked for YouTube videos of her a few months ago. I kid you not, my first reaction was, “Oh my god - she sounds just like Ryan!!”

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/154 "2013-06-11T23:16:08Z")

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Well, it’s all pretty open still. ‘Born before 1960’ just means she can’t be any younger than 54 right now. ‘Biggest fame after 1980’ means she could have been as young as 22 when she had a hit show. ‘Most recent appearance was in the last two years’, well, again, as what? The creaky old lady who can barely move? The MILF who seduces her daughter’s boyfriend?

Is it worth finding out if she was the title character? Character actor vs. romantic lead? Best known as a villainess? I don’t know…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/155 "2013-06-12T01:55:27Z")

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I’ll give you another hint: she was the female lead in two different successful TV series in the 1980’s.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/156 "2013-06-12T02:17:04Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> I’ve heard Ryan “doing” Carol many times, but had never actually seen/heard Carol, so I looked for YouTube videos of her a few months ago. I kid you not, my first reaction was, “Oh my god - she sounds just like Ryan!!”

My favorite bit was when he played Carol Channing as an astronaut on the Moon and said, in that wonderful voice, “Why, it’s just as dried-up and lifeless as I am!”

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/157 "2013-06-12T04:33:47Z")

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IQ: Did you play Alan Harper’s divorce lawyer, only to screw him over when Charlie slept with you, promptly dumping you?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/158 "2013-06-12T10:42:02Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you play Alan Harper’s divorce lawyer, only to screw him over when Charlie slept with you, promptly dumping you?

Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/159 "2013-06-12T19:03:07Z")

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DQ: Ever win Tony?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2013/659899/160 "2013-06-12T19:05:32Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> DQ: Ever win Tony?

What was the answer to your IQ?

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