# Botticelli June 2015 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 2, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445 "2015-06-02T15:53:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/61 "2015-06-03T21:01:06Z")
DQ1) Did you found a company or corporation that still exists today? DQ2) Were you an inventor? DQ3) Did you sell a product that most “ordinary” Americans use or purchase? ---
**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/62 "2015-06-03T21:12:12Z")
DQ Summary: 1. Real. 2. Male. 3. Last name does not start with C. 4. Dead. 5. American. 6. Not known for politics/military. 7. Died since 1950. 8. Not known for the arts. 9. Known for business. 10. Died since 2000. 11. Founded a company or corporation that still exists today. 12. Inventor (using a broad, modern definition of the term). 13. Did not sell a product that most “ordinary” Americans use or purchase. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/63 "2015-06-03T21:53:42Z")
IQs: 1. Did your wife write _Gift from the Sea_ and other poems? 2. Were you the longest lasting manger in Major League Baseball? 3. Were you one of Top Cat’s gang? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/64 "2015-06-04T00:07:01Z")
IQ1: Is a concert venue in Midtown Manhattan in New York City named after you? IQ2: Are you an American hotelier and founder of a hotel chain who was married to Zsa Zsa Gabor? IQ3: From 2010 to 2013, were you considered the richest man in the world? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/65 "2015-06-04T01:16:14Z")
> [@Baffle](#): > > … Hey now, you can’t ask a IQ which basically amounts to “are you human” and then tell me I picked the wrong one… I saw a genetic study as to Charlemagne; never saw one as to your Mongol guy. Previous IQs: Did Woodrow Wilson narrowly beat you in 1916? - Charles Evans Hughes. Does one of your most famous recordings end with you saying offhandedly, “That’s it.” - Ray Charles, performing “What’d I Say.” Were you the Tory bad guy in Jeffrey Archer’s political thriller _First Among Equals_? - Charles Seymour. DQs: Product can be held with one hand? Product involves electronics/computers? One DQ reserved. IQs: Were you Nelson’s #2 guy at Trafalgar? Were you Gage’s #2 guy at Germantown? Did a wit say it looked like you had been weaned on a pickle? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/66 "2015-06-04T01:50:54Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Jorge Luis Borges Huh. Never heard of him, either. IQ1: Were you a Pole who is considered to be one of the greatest novelists in English? IQ2: Were you called “the African Mahler”? IQ3: Are you a currently reigning member of European royalty? ---
**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/67 "2015-06-04T02:06:21Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did your wife write _Gift from the Sea_ and other poems? > 2. Were you the longest lasting manger in Major League Baseball? > 3. Were you one of Top Cat’s gang? I am not Connie Mack. No idea on the other two. > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > IQ1: Is a concert venue in Midtown Manhattan in New York City named after you? > IQ2: Are you an American hotelier and founder of a hotel chain who was married to Zsa Zsa Gabor? > IQ3: From 2010 to 2013, were you considered the richest man in the world? I am not … Andrew? Carnegie. First name’s escaping me! I can’t think of a hotelier with a C in his name. I am not Carlos Slim. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I saw a genetic study as to Charlemagne; never saw one as to your Mongol guy. > > IQs: > > Were you Nelson’s #2 guy at Trafalgar? > Were you Gage’s #2 guy at Germantown? > Did a wit say it looked like you had been weaned on a pickle? Ah, well, here you go. > **[Eleven ancient leaders fathered 800 million modern men, study finds](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2930277/Eleven-fathers-Asia-800-million-modern-men-descended-ancient-leaders-including-Genghis-Khan.html)** > > Scientists from the University of Leicester analysed Y chromosomes from 5,000 men from 127 populations across Asia and found 11 DNA sequences that date from 1300BC to 1100AD. Note that’s only Y-chromosome. Any family tree including at least one woman won’t pass the marker. At that temporal distance, a solid statistical argument could be made for ancestry to a “majority” of Europeans. Besides, you said “related to,” not “descended from,” and, well, we’re all related, man. But you’ll have to take three DQs for this set of questions. > [@SCAdian](#): > > Huh. Never heard of him, either. > IQ1: Were you a Pole who is considered to be one of the greatest novelists in English? > IQ2: Were you called “the African Mahler”? > IQ3: Are you a currently reigning member of European royalty? I am not Joseph Conrad. I don’t even know who the regular Mahler is. I am not Carl XVI Gustav of Sweden. * * * DQ Summary: 1. Real. 2. Male. 3. Last name does not start with C. 4. Dead. 5. American. 6. Not known for politics/military. 7. Died since 1950. 8. Not known for the arts. 9. Known for business. 10. Died since 2000. 11. Founded a company or corporation that still exists today. 12. Inventor (using a broad, modern definition of the term). 13. Did not sell a product that most “ordinary” Americans use or purchase. 14. Product cannot be held with one hand. 15. No involvement of electronics or computers in most well-known product. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/68 "2015-06-04T02:13:03Z")
> [@](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did your wife write Gift from the Sea and other poems? > 2. Were you the longest lasting manager in Major League Baseball? > 3. Were you one of Top Cat’s gang? > > I am not Connie Mack. No idea on the other two. Correct on Connie Mack. #1 was Charles Lindbergh (whose wife, Anne Morrow Lindbergh was the poet.) #3 was Choo Choo. 2 DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/69 "2015-06-04T02:17:57Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Were you a Pole who is considered to be one of the greatest novelists in English? > IQ2: Were you called “the African Mahler”? > IQ3: Are you a currently reigning member of European royalty? > [@Baffle](#): > > I am not Joseph Conrad. > I don’t even know who the regular Mahler is. > I am not Carl XVI Gustav of Sweden. Correct. Samuel Coleridge-Taylor. Correct. DQ: Best-known product related to transportation? ---
**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/70 "2015-06-04T02:29:59Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > Correct. > Samuel Coleridge-Taylor. > Correct. > DQ: Best-known product related to transportation? DQ Summary: 1. Real. 2. Male. 3. Last name does not start with C. 4. Dead. 5. American. 6. Not known for politics/military. 7. Died since 1950. 8. Not known for the arts. 9. Known for business. 10. Died since 2000. 11. Founded a company or corporation that still exists today. 12. Inventor (using a broad, modern definition of the term). 13. Did not sell a product that most “ordinary” Americans use or purchase. 14. Product cannot be held with one hand. 15. No involvement of electronics or computers in most well-known product. 16. Best-known product related to transportation. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/71 "2015-06-04T02:32:47Z")
DQ: Common first name? 1 DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/72 "2015-06-04T02:34:57Z")
DQ Summary: 1. Real. 2. Male. 3. Last name does not start with C. 4. Dead. 5. American. 6. Not known for politics/military. 7. Died since 1950. 8. Not known for the arts. 9. Known for business. 10. Died since 2000. 11. Founded a company or corporation that still exists today. 12. Inventor (using a broad, modern definition of the term). 13. Did not sell a product that most “ordinary” Americans use or purchase. 14. Product cannot be held with one hand. 15. No involvement of electronics or computers in most well-known product. 16. Best-known product related to transportation. 17. Uncommon first name. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/73 "2015-06-04T03:10:29Z")
> [@](#): > > IQ1: Is a concert venue in Midtown Manhattan in New York City named after you? > IQ2: Are you an American hotelier and founder of a hotel chain who was married to Zsa Zsa Gabor? > IQ3: From 2010 to 2013, were you considered the richest man in the world? > > I am not … Andrew? Carnegie. First name’s escaping me! > I can’t think of a hotelier with a C in his name. > I am not Carlos Slim. correct, Conrad Hilton, correct holding 2 DQs ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/74 "2015-06-04T14:52:05Z")
Thanks for the Khan study. Hadn’t seen that before. Previous IQs: Were you Nelson’s #2 guy at Trafalgar? - Adm. Collingwood. Were you Gage’s #2 guy at Germantown? - Lord Cornwallis (later to come to grief at Yorktown). Did a wit say it looked like you had been weaned on a pickle? - Calvin Coolidge. Hmmm. Three DQs remaining. What would be useful to know at this point? No name is occurring to me, based on what we know so far. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/75 "2015-06-04T15:24:40Z")
DQ: Product related to ground transportation? holding a DQ ---
**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/76 "2015-06-04T15:54:38Z")
DQ Summary: 1. Real. 2. Male. 3. Last name does not start with C. 4. Dead. 5. American. 6. Not known for politics/military. 7. Died since 1950. 8. Not known for the arts. 9. Known for business. 10. Died since 2000. 11. Founded a company or corporation that still exists today. 12. Inventor (using a broad, modern definition of the term). 13. Did not sell a product that most “ordinary” Americans use or purchase. 14. Product cannot be held with one hand. 15. No involvement of electronics or computers in most well-known product. 16. Best-known product related to transportation. 17. Uncommon first name. 18. Product related to ground transportation. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/77 "2015-06-04T23:03:18Z")
IQ1: Are you a Titan who overthrew your father, only to be overthrown by your son later? IQ2: Are you a sea monster who often contends with Scylla and causes whirlpools and sea disasters? IQ3: Did you turn Odysseus’s crew into swine? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/78 "2015-06-05T00:24:01Z")
IQ: Are you the founder of the Greyhound Bus Lines? ---
**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/79 "2015-06-05T02:21:27Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > IQ1: Are you a Titan who overthrew your father, only to be overthrown by your son later? > IQ2: Are you a sea monster who often contends with Scylla and causes whirlpools and sea disasters? > IQ3: Did you turn Odysseus’s crew into swine? I am not Cronus. (Though I always spelled it Kronus.) I am not sure. DQ. I am not Circe. (I am pretty sure that’s right…) > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQ: Are you the founder of the Greyhound Bus Lines? DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445/80 "2015-06-05T12:27:51Z")
> [@](#): > > IQ1: Are you a Titan who overthrew your father, only to be overthrown by your son later? > IQ2: Are you a sea monster who often contends with Scylla and causes whirlpools and sea disasters? > IQ3: Did you turn Odysseus’s crew into swine? > > I am not Cronus. (Though I always spelled it Kronus.) > I am not sure. DQ. > I am not Circe. (I am pretty sure that’s right…) correct (C & K are both the same, but Chronos is actually the god of time), Charybdis, correct holding 2 DQs [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2015/721445.md?page=5)