# Botticelli June 2016

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 5, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577 "2016-06-05T15:30:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/21 "2016-06-07T12:12:31Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with E
4. Not American
5. Would not be alive if real
6. First appeared since 1964
7. Not originally from TV or movies
8. By an American author
9. Not European
10. First appeared since 1980
11. Considered a good guy

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/22 "2016-06-07T12:21:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Does Cate Blanchett hope to play you several more times?  
> Did a blacksmith initially refuse to call you by your first name?  
> Were you from the Bowes-Lyon family?

not Queen Elizabeth I, DQ, not Queen Elizabeth II

A few years ago, a few friends and I did a coach tour of the UK. When we arrived in Scotland, the tour guide told us the Scots consider the current Queen Elizabeth the only Queen Elizabeth, because Elizabeth I ordered the death of Mary, Queen of Scots. This is reflected in their postal code and coins. Talk about holding grudges.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/23 "2016-06-07T13:42:57Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you one of the Monty Python troupe?
> 2. Did you star on _CHiPs_?
> 3. Were you the distaff member of the Fatal Five?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> not Eric Idle, not Eric Estrada, DQ

Correct. Correct. The Emerald Empress.

DQ: Known from a work of prose fiction?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/24 "2016-06-07T13:45:52Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write _The Hollow Men_?
2. Did you write _The Hoosier Schoolmaster_?
3. Were you a poet and essayist in the Transcendentalist Movement?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/25 "2016-06-07T17:26:34Z")

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IQs:

Does Cate Blanchett hope to play you several more times? - Yes, Queen Elizabeth I.  
Did a blacksmith initially refuse to call you by your first name? - Elizabeth Swann, in the first _Pirates of the Caribbean_ movie.  
Were you from the Bowes-Lyon family? - Not Queen Elizabeth II, but her mother, the Queen Mother.

DQs:

Human?  
Known for using a gun?

IQs:

Was your father a diplomat and your mother a teacher?  
Were you that diplomat?  
Did you have brothers named Robert and Renly?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/26 "2016-06-07T17:27:38Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> …A few years ago, a few friends and I did a coach tour of the UK. When we arrived in Scotland, the tour guide told us the Scots consider the current Queen Elizabeth the only Queen Elizabeth, because Elizabeth I ordered the death of Mary, Queen of Scots. This is reflected in their postal code and coins. Talk about holding grudges.

I don’t know what you mean about postal code, but the Scots don’t have their own coins: [Scottish coinage - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_coinage#Subsequent_developments)

And she is referred to as Elizabeth II in these official Scottish documents:

[http://www.gov.scot/Topics/People/royal-ceremonial/papalvisit/Pope-QE-speeches](http://www.gov.scot/Topics/People/royal-ceremonial/papalvisit/Pope-QE-speeches) (about halfway down)  
[http://www.gov.scot/Publications/2007/10/09113958/23](http://www.gov.scot/Publications/2007/10/09113958/23) (under the topic, “Explain the process and action taken”)  
[http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0046/00461431.pdf](http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0046/00461431.pdf) (as to Shona Robison MSP, 02-Jul)  
[http://www.gov.scot/Resource/Doc/1070/0111298.pdf](http://www.gov.scot/Resource/Doc/1070/0111298.pdf) (as to Fiona Hyslop MSP, 16-Sep-10)

And see: [MacCormick v Lord Advocate - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacCormick_v_Lord_Advocate)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/27 "2016-06-07T17:38:15Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with E
4. Not American
5. Would not be alive if real
6. First appeared since 1964
7. Not originally from TV or movies
8. By an American author
9. Not European
10. First appeared since 1980
11. Considered a good guy
12. From prose fiction
13. Human
14. Not known for using a gun

EH: The Scot coins are the same currency values, materials and dimensions as English coins, but the designs on the faces and backs are different.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/28 "2016-06-07T17:39:22Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write _The Hollow Men_?
> 2. Did you write _The Hoosier Schoolmaster_?
> 3. Were you a poet and essayist in the Transcendentalist Movement?

DQ, DQ, not Ralph Waldo Emerson

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/29 "2016-06-07T17:45:41Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Was your father a diplomat and your mother a teacher?  
> Were you that diplomat?  
> Did you have brothers named Robert and Renly?

DQ, DQ, don’t know of any other Baratheon brother besides Stannis

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/30 "2016-06-07T23:02:15Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write _The Hollow Men_?
> 2. Did you write _The Hoosier Schoolmaster_?
> 3. Were you a poet and essayist in the Transcendentalist Movement?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> DQ, DQ, not Ralph Waldo Emerson

#1 was T. S. Eliot.  
#2 was Edward Eggleston.  
Correct on 3.  
DQs:

1. From a work of science fiction or fantasy?
2. First appeared since 2000?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/31 "2016-06-07T23:04:35Z")

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IQs:

1. Did your sword take people’s souls?
2. Did you write _The Man Without A Country_?
3. Were you aka Romain de Tirtoff?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/32 "2016-06-07T23:13:33Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with E
4. Not American
5. Would not be alive if real
6. First appeared since 1964
7. Not originally from TV or movies
8. By an American author
9. Not European
10. First appeared since 1980
11. Considered a good guy
12. From prose fiction
13. Human
14. Not known for using a gun
15. From a work of science fiction or fantasy
16. First appeared since 2000

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/33 "2016-06-07T23:16:09Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did your sword take people’s souls?
> 2. Did you write _The Man Without A Country_?
> 3. Were you aka Romain de Tirtoff?

not Elric of Melnibone, DQ, not Erte (did you work the same puzzle in GAMES magazine that I did? That was used in a clue)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/34 "2016-06-08T02:15:30Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did your sword take people’s souls?
> 2. Did you write _The Man Without A Country_?
> 3. Were you aka Romain de Tirtoff?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> not Elric of Melnibone, DQ, not Erte (did you work the same puzzle in GAMES magazine that I did? That was used in a clue)

#1 is correct.  
#2 was Edward Everett Hale.  
#3 is correct. No, I am a retired art appraiser, and have seen a great number of works by Erte.

DQ: From a work of science fiction?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/35 "2016-06-08T02:16:37Z")

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SF or Fantasy good guy from a book written 2000+, first name starts with E.

Time to put the thinker into high gear.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/36 "2016-06-08T02:17:43Z")

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Ah, well, anyway…

IQ: Are you one of the characters in Twilight for whom there is a Team of fans?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/37 "2016-06-08T04:35:38Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …  
> IQs:
> 
> Was your father a diplomat and your mother a teacher?  
> Were you that diplomat?  
> Did you have brothers named Robert and Renly?

All withdrawn. Got my wires crossed. Sorry.

IQs:

Were you a prominent House Republican who got dumped in a primary?  
Were you a bastard of Robert Baratheon?  
Are you a Scandinavian punk computer hacker?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/38 "2016-06-08T12:20:17Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with E
4. Not American
5. Would not be alive if real
6. First appeared since 1964
7. Not originally from TV or movies
8. By an American author
9. Not European
10. First appeared since 1980
11. Considered a good guy
12. From prose fiction
13. Human
14. Not known for using a gun
15. From a work of science fiction or fantasy
16. First appeared before 2000
17. Not from science fiction

Apologies for #16. First appearance is actually before 2000.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/39 "2016-06-08T12:21:55Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Ah, well, anyway…
> 
> IQ: Are you one of the characters in Twilight for whom there is a Team of fans?

not Edward Cullen

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2016/756577/40 "2016-06-08T12:23:47Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you a prominent House Republican who got dumped in a primary?  
> Were you a bastard of Robert Baratheon?  
> Are you a Scandinavian punk computer hacker?

DQ, can’t think of any other bastards besides Gendry, I know I’ve read about #3 but can’t remember the name

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