# Botticelli - June 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 5, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187 "2017-06-05T17:19:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/141 "2017-06-14T20:04:29Z")
I’ll post an invitational thread. IQs: Was Ward Hill Lamon a pal of yours? Was Noah Brooks initially an admirer but later a critic of yours? Did you, at one time, head the Pullman Railway Car Co.? ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/142 "2017-06-14T20:22:00Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I’ll post an invitational thread. > > IQs: > > Was Ward Hill Lamon a pal of yours? > Was Noah Brooks initially an admirer but later a critic of yours? > Did you, at one time, head the Pullman Railway Car Co.? I’m pulling an O’fer. 3DQs for you. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/143 "2017-06-14T20:50:14Z")
Previous IQs: Was Ward Hill Lamon a pal of yours? - Abraham Lincoln, who appointed him U.S. Marshal for the District of Columbia Was Noah Brooks initially an admirer but later a critic of yours? - Mary Todd Lincoln; Brooks was a Sacramento journalist who became quite close to the Lincolns Did you, at one time, head the Pullman Railway Car Co.? - Robert Todd Lincoln, the President’s eldest son Lincoln x3! DQs: Male? Real? Last name start with L? IQs: Were you dying in bed while a big party went on downstairs? Did you die just after coming home from a big European trip? Were you JFK’s personal secretary? ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/144 "2017-06-14T21:07:31Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you dying in bed while a big party went on downstairs? > Did you die just after coming home from a big European trip? > Were you JFK’s personal secretary? IQ1: I am not my Auntie Ruth. IQ2: I am not my Uncle Ralph. IQ3: ? I keed; I keed. 🙂 But damn, 1 and 2 are some nebulous questions. 3 DQs. L. DQ1: Not male DQ2: Not real DQ3: First name starts with L ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/145 "2017-06-14T23:03:36Z")
IQ1: Although widely regarded as a demonic figure, is one version of your origin a Jewish folk tale that you were too argumentative to be allowed in paradise? IQ2: Are you a Latin American ghost whose name translates as “The Weeping Woman”? IQ3: Are you one of Zeus’s mistresses who was transformed by a jealous Hera into a child-eating monster? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/146 "2017-06-14T23:17:14Z")
IQs: 1. Are you aka John Whorfin? 2. Are you a British naturalist painter who is now better remembered for his verse? 3. Did you write _Go Set A Watchman_? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/147 "2017-06-14T23:18:04Z")
IQ1: Did a song about you include the lines “Jump like a fish, jump like a porpoise / All join hands and habeas corpus”? IQ2: Did you pick a fine time to leave me? IQ3: Did you sing “Sixteenth Avenue” and “Black Coffee”? ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/148 "2017-06-15T00:04:46Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > IQ1: Although widely regarded as a demonic figure, is one version of your origin a Jewish folk tale that you were too argumentative to be allowed in paradise? > IQ2: Are you a Latin American ghost whose name translates as “The Weeping Woman”? > IQ3: Are you one of Zeus’s mistresses who was transformed by a jealous Hera into a child-eating monster? IQ1: I am not Lucifer. IQ2: I am not…Senorita Lacrimal (??) IQ3: I am not Leda (?) ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/149 "2017-06-15T00:09:30Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you aka John Whorfin? > 2. Are you a British naturalist painter who is now better remembered for his verse? > 3. Did you write _Go Set A Watchman_? IQ1: ? IQ2: ? IQ3: I am not (debatable) Harper Lee. > [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Did a song about you include the lines “Jump like a fish, jump like a porpoise / All join hands and habeas corpus”? > IQ2: Did you pick a fine time to leave me? > IQ3: Did you sing “Sixteenth Avenue” and “Black Coffee”? IQ1: ? IQ2: I am not Lucille IQ3: I am not k.d. lang ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/150 "2017-06-15T02:04:11Z")
> [@divemaster](#): > > IQ1: I am not Lucifer. > IQ2: I am not…Senorita Lacrimal (??) > IQ3: I am not Leda (?) Lilith, La Llorona, Lamia DQ: Originally from literature? holding 2 DQs ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/151 "2017-06-15T03:44:47Z")
IQs: Were you dying in bed while a big party went on downstairs? Did you die just after coming home from a big European trip? Were you JFK’s personal secretary? > [@divemaster](#): > > IQ1: I am not my Auntie Ruth. > IQ2: I am not my Uncle Ralph. > IQ3: ? > > I keed; I keed. 🙂 But damn, 1 and 2 are some nebulous questions… If they’re nebulous, that must mean there are several possible answers for them. Lay 'em on me. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/152 "2017-06-15T11:51:32Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Did a song about you include the lines “Jump like a fish, jump like a porpoise / All join hands and habeas corpus”? > IQ2: Did you pick a fine time to leave me? > IQ3: Did you sing “Sixteenth Avenue” and “Black Coffee”? > [@divemaster](#): > > IQ1: ? > IQ2: I am not Lucille > IQ3: I am not k.d. lang [Lizzie Borden](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuvov6aBccs). Correct. Lacy J Dalton. DQ: American character? DQ: Created by an American? ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/153 "2017-06-15T12:11:34Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you dying in bed while a big party went on downstairs? > Did you die just after coming home from a big European trip? > Were you JFK’s personal secretary? > > If they’re nebulous, that must mean there are several possible answers for them. Lay 'em on me. Nah, I have no answers. I was just pulling a Cliff Clavin/Jeopardy response (though I was still stuck on “R” when I should have used “L”). You still have your DQs. L. DQ1: Not male DQ2: Not real DQ3: First name starts with L DQ4: Originally from literature DQ5: Not an American character DQ6: Character not created by an American ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/154 "2017-06-15T14:04:36Z")
> [@](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you aka John Whorfin? > 2. Are you a British naturalist painter who is now better remembered for his verse? > 3. Did you write Go Set A Watchman? > IQ1: ? > IQ2: ? > IQ3: I am not (debatable) Harper Lee. #1 was Dr. Emilio Lizardo as wonderfully overacted by John Lithgow in _The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Ninth Dimension_. #2 is Edward Lear, now remembered mainly for his limericks. Correct on Harper Lee. DQs: 1. Originally from a work of prose fiction? 2. Created after 1950? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/155 "2017-06-15T14:07:44Z")
IQs: 1. Do you provide the voice of Sid in the _Ice Age_ movie series? 2. Did you write _Hymns of the Marshes_? 3. Did you write _The Cyberiad_? ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/156 "2017-06-15T14:08:54Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Do you provide the voice of Sid in the _Ice Age_ movie series? > 2. Did you write _Hymns of the Marshes_? > 3. Did you write _The Cyberiad_? Hmmm, three DQs for you. L. DQ1: Not male DQ2: Not real DQ3: First name starts with L DQ4: Originally from literature DQ5: Not an American character DQ6: Character not created by an American DQ7: Originally from a work of prose fiction DQ8: Not created after 1950 ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/157 "2017-06-15T14:16:31Z")
> [@](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Do you provide the voice of Sid in the Ice Age movie series? > 2. Did you write Hymns of the Marshes? > 3. Did you write The Cyberiad? > Hmmm, three DQs for you. #1 is John Leguizamo. #2 was Sidney Lanier. #3 was Stanislaw Lem. DQs: 1. By a European author? 2. Protagonist? 3. Created after 1900? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/158 "2017-06-15T14:20:52Z")
IQs: 1. Did you play Estragon in the U.S. premier of the stage play _Waiting for Godot_? 2. Were you a 1960’s singer nicknamed “Little Miss Dynamite”? 3. Were you (a Trojan priest) and your two sons attacked by giant snakes sent by the Greek gods? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/159 "2017-06-15T17:10:18Z")
Previous IQs: Were you dying in bed while a big party went on downstairs? - Willie Lincoln, at the White House, likely of typhoid Did you die just after coming home from a big European trip? - Tad Lincoln, his brother Were you JFK’s personal secretary? - Evelyn Lincoln (no relation) Lincoln x3 again! DQs: Would be alive today, if real? Considered a “good guy”? Has appeared in an American movie? IQs: Did you make your home at Taliesin? Were you Clinton’s first SECTREAS? Have you played a scientist, a cabbie and a judge? ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187/160 "2017-06-15T18:43:29Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you play Estragon in the U.S. premier of the stage play _Waiting for Godot_? > 2. Were you a 1960’s singer nicknamed “Little Miss Dynamite”? > 3. Were you (a Trojan priest) and your two sons attacked by giant snakes sent by the Greek gods? IQ1: ? IQ2: I am not Brenda Lee. IQ3: ? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you make your home at Taliesin? > Were you Clinton’s first SECTREAS? > Have you played a scientist, a cabbie and a judge? IQ1: ? IQ2: I am not Lloyd Bentson IQ3: I am not … Lon Chaney (??) L. DQ1: Not male DQ2: Not real DQ3: First name starts with L DQ4: Originally from literature DQ5: Not an American character DQ6: Character not created by an American DQ7: Originally from a work of prose fiction DQ8: Not created after 1950 DQ9: Created by a European author DQ10: Protagonist DQ11: Created after 1900 DQ12: DQ13: Considered a “good guy” (“good gal,” actually) DQ14: Has appeared in a movie with some level of American backing/production Requesting clarification re “Would be alive today, if real?” I’m not sure how to interpret the question. Is this simply an age issue? So, if the character was 20 years old in a book set in 1970, then the answer is “yes” but if it is a character who was 20 years old in a book set in 1861, then the answer would be “no”? Or is it based on the life of the character? So, if the character dies at the end of the book, the answer would be “no,” even if the story was set in 2015? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2017/788187.md?page=9)