# Botticelli - June 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 11, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899 "2018-06-11T17:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/161 "2018-06-20T13:51:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Does the same actor usually play both your dad and your nemesis on stage?  
> Was your last car trimmed in your college colors?  
> Was your wife much nicer to your young neighbor than you were?

1. I am not Wendy Darling.
2. Take a DQ.
3. I am not Mr. Wilson.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/162 "2018-06-20T15:40:45Z")

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DQ: Considered a “novelty” act? (like when William Shatner did a cover of _Tambourine Man_)

1 DQ left

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/163 "2018-06-20T15:53:52Z")

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DQs:

1. Born before 1950
2. Real
3. Last name starts with W
4. Male
5. Not American
6. Dead
7. Not known for politics/military
8. Not known from film
9. British
10. Known from the Arts
11. Not best known for the visual arts
12. Born before 1900
13. Not known from a TV series
14. Known for music, but not as a musician
15. Did not win a top award as we would think of it, but received many honors
16. Not known as a performer

This isn’t an exact answer to KO’s question (which would be “No”), but the questions are getting far afield.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/164 "2018-06-20T15:54:07Z")

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IQ1: Are you currently defensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams, having previously served as head coach of the Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills, and Dallas Cowboys?  
IQ2: Are you a former SF Forty-Niners head coach, credited with inventing the West Coast offense?  
IQ3: Are you currently offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers, having previously served as head coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Tennessee Titans?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/165 "2018-06-20T15:55:12Z")

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DQ: Born before 1800?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/166 "2018-06-20T15:59:41Z")

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DQs:

1. Born before 1950
2. Real
3. Last name starts with W
4. Male
5. Not American
6. Dead
7. Not known for politics/military
8. Not known from film
9. British
10. Known from the Arts
11. Not best known for the visual arts
12. Born before 1900
13. Not known from a TV series
14. Known for music, but not as a musician
15. Did not win a top award as we would think of it, but received many honors
16. Not known as a performer
17. Born before 1800

> [@](#):
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> Knowed Out:  
> IQ1: Are you currently defensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams, having previously served as head coach of the Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills, and Dallas Cowboys?  
> IQ2: Are you a former SF Forty-Niners head coach, credited with inventing the West Coast offense?  
> IQ3: Are you currently offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers, having previously served as head coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Tennessee Titans?

Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/167 "2018-06-20T16:29:38Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> Take 3 DQs.
> 
> 1. I am not Orson Welles.So correct!
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 3. I am not Willie Scott.And correct as well…

Let’s see if I can think of a great DQ

- 
  - Are you known for writing?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/168 "2018-06-20T16:34:18Z")

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DQs:

1. Born before 1950
2. Real
3. Last name starts with W
4. Male
5. Not American
6. Dead
7. Not known for politics/military
8. Not known from film
9. British
10. Known from the Arts
11. Not best known for the visual arts
12. Born before 1900
13. Not known from a TV series
14. Known for music, but not as a musician
15. Did not win a top award as we would think of it, but received many honors
16. Not known as a performer
17. Born before 1800
18. Known for writing

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/169 "2018-06-20T16:48:16Z")

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Previous IQs:

Does the same actor usually play both your dad and your nemesis on stage? - Yes, Wendy Darling, in _Peter Pan_ (as to Mr. Darling and Capt. Hook)  
Was your last car trimmed in your college colors? - Woodrow Wilson, in Princeton’s black and orange  
Was your wife much nicer to your young neighbor than you were? - Yes, Mr. Wilson, in _Dennis the Menace_

DQ:

Best known as a composer?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/170 "2018-06-20T18:08:17Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> Take 3 DQs.
> 
> 1. I am not George Wallace.
> 
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 
> 3. I am not Wyatt Earp.
> 
> 4. I am not Orson Welles.correct
> 
> 5. Take a DQ.'twas Dave Winfield DQ
> 
> 6. I am not Willie Scott.correct again

And on we go

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/171 "2018-06-20T18:11:02Z")

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DQ: Known for composing music?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/172 "2018-06-20T18:44:11Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you currently defensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams, having previously served as head coach of the Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills, and Dallas Cowboys?  
> IQ2: Are you a former SF Forty-Niners head coach, credited with inventing the West Coast offense?  
> IQ3: Are you currently offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers, having previously served as head coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Tennessee Titans?
> 
> Take 3 DQs.

Wade Phillips, Bill Walsh, Ken Whisenhunt

DQ: Born before 1700?

holding 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/173 "2018-06-20T19:23:10Z")

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DQs:

1. Born before 1950
2. Real
3. Last name starts with W
4. Male
5. Not American
6. Dead
7. Not known for politics/military
8. Not known from film
9. British
10. Known from the Arts
11. Not best known for the visual arts
12. Born before 1900
13. Not known from a TV series
14. Known for music, but not as a musician
15. Did not win a top award as we would think of it, but received many honors
16. Not known as a performer
17. Born before 1800
18. Known for writing
19. Not known as a composer of music, but as a songwriter
20. Born before 1700

MM, your question duplicated EH’s, so take another.

We’re at 20. All unasked DQs may now be asked until 8 a.m. EDT tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/174 "2018-06-20T23:21:07Z")

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okayeee

DQ: Born before 1600?  
DQ: Composer of a tune still heard today?  
DQ: Surname more than two syllables?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/175 "2018-06-21T02:03:53Z")

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DQs:

1. Born before 1950
2. Real
3. Last name starts with W
4. Male
5. Not American
6. Dead
7. Not known for politics/military
8. Not known from film
9. British
10. Known from the Arts
11. Not best known for the visual arts
12. Born before 1900
13. Not known from a TV series
14. Known for music, but not as a musician
15. Did not win a top award as we would think of it, but received many honors
16. Not known as a performer
17. Born before 1800
18. Known for writing
19. Not known as a composer of music, but as a songwriter
20. Born before 1700
21. Born after 1600
22. Surname of two or less syllables

KO take another DQ. I’ve already said in #19 above he wasn’t a composer.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/176 "2018-06-21T02:26:15Z")

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OK, are you responsible for the creation of a tune that’s still heard today?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/177 "2018-06-21T04:43:51Z")

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Hmm. British songwriter (not composer), born between 1600-1700, received many honors (a knighthood or title of nobility?). Can’t think of anyone who fits these clues.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/178 "2018-06-21T12:05:07Z")

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DQs:

1. Born before 1950
2. Real
3. Last name starts with W
4. Male
5. Not American
6. Dead
7. Not known for politics/military
8. Not known from film
9. British
10. Known from the Arts
11. Not best known for the visual arts
12. Born before 1900
13. Not known from a TV series
14. Known for music, but not as a musician
15. Did not win a top award as we would think of it, but received many honors
16. Not known as a performer
17. Born before 1800
18. Known for writing
19. Not known as a composer of music, but as a songwriter
20. Born before 1700
21. Born after 1600
22. Surname of two or less syllables
23. Several songs he wrote are still being sung today, usually on Sundays, and especially one at Christmas

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/179 "2018-06-21T13:44:35Z")

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Are you John Wesley? (I was brought up Methodist)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2018/815899/180 "2018-06-21T17:31:29Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> Are you John Wesley? (I was brought up Methodist)

Ooh, so close, but no, I am neither John nor Charles Wesley (who were both born a little after 1700). You’re on the right track, though.

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