# Botticelli - June 2019

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880 "2019-06-01T15:59:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/41 "2019-06-05T13:50:30Z")

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The uncertainty on the number of DQs divemaster has (one or two) is due to the fact that, while I’m sure my answer to his IQ1 is correct, my answer to his IQ3 was a guess based on vague memories of a forty-year-old TV show I’ve never watched.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/42 "2019-06-05T13:52:15Z")

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DQs:

1. Known for mainstream fiction?
2. Unusual first name?
3. Movie(s) made from his novels?

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/43 "2019-06-05T15:34:25Z")

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> [@divemaster](#):
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> IQ1: According to Daniel, did you become like a beast, wandering the wilderness and eating grass for several years?  
> IQ2: Did you write the hit song “One,” made a hit by Three Dog Night?  
> IQ3: Were you the foil for Laura Ingalls in TV’s _Little House on the Prairie_?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not Nebuchadnezzar.  
> DQ.  
> Not … Nellie?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> The uncertainty on the number of DQs divemaster has (one or two) is due to the fact that, while I’m sure my answer to his IQ1 is correct, my answer to his IQ3 was a guess based on vague memories of a forty-year-old TV show I’ve never watched.

Yes, correct on IQ1 and IQ3! Your memory served you well. “Nellie Oleson”

IQ2 was Harry Nilsson.

I’ll try to think of a DQ in a bit.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/44 "2019-06-05T17:06:30Z")

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Hmm. Can’t think of anyone who fits all the answers so far.

DQ:

Best known for a single novel?

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/45 "2019-06-05T18:35:06Z")

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> [@divemaster](#):
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> I’ll try to think of a DQ in a bit.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> DQs:
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> 1. Known for mainstream fiction?
> 2. Unusual first name?
> 3. Movie(s) made from his novels?

I was gonna ask #3 above, so I’ll wait for the answers to these before trying to come up with my DQ.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/46 "2019-06-05T18:43:01Z")

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N

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with N (though really it does)
4. Dead
5. Not born after 1950
6. Not American
7. Originally European
8. Born after 1850
9. Not political/military (but was a naval officer)
10. Known for the arts
11. Not born after 1900
12. Not known for the performing arts
13. Not mostly known for a single incident
14. Not known for the visual arts
15. Best known by a pseudonym
16. Known for the literary arts
17. British or Irish
18. Novelist
19. Not a journalist
20. Not a Londoner
21. Did not die before 1939
22. Greatest fame not before 1900
23. Known (though not exclusively) for mainstream fiction
24. Unusual first name
25. Movies made from several of my novels
26. Best known for a single novel

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/47 "2019-06-05T19:30:02Z")

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I have no idea what to ask. But I guess it doesn’t matter, b/c I ain’t gonna be able to guess the answer.

DQ: Are the “movies made from several of my novels” rated R? (Or, if not rated by the MPAA, would they generally be considered “R” level movies?)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/48 "2019-06-05T21:13:03Z")

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All I’m coming up with is Ngaio Marsh, and she wrote mysteries… so that’s a dead end.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/49 "2019-06-05T22:59:44Z")

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N

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with N (though really it does)
4. Dead
5. Not born after 1950
6. Not American
7. Originally European
8. Born after 1850
9. Not political/military (but was a naval officer)
10. Known for the arts
11. Not born after 1900
12. Not known for the performing arts
13. Not mostly known for a single incident
14. Not known for the visual arts
15. Best known by a pseudonym
16. Known for the literary arts
17. British or Irish
18. Novelist
19. Not a journalist
20. Not a Londoner
21. Did not die before 1939
22. Greatest fame not before 1900
23. Known (though not exclusively) for mainstream fiction
24. Unusual first name
25. Movies made from several of my novels
26. Best known for a single novel
27. Movies made from my novels were not rated R or higher.  
EH, Prof, SMV, KO, dm: Please ask your “Are you Firstname Lastname?” DQs by 10 PM Eastern tomorrow (Thursday).

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/50 "2019-06-06T02:51:11Z")

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Just a thought… the last name doesn’t start with an N, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the first name does. He may be an author whose middle name starts with an N, and is always used. Think Robert Louis Stevenson, but with an N.

Or not.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/51 "2019-06-06T11:34:35Z")

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Initial N. Is a possible, as well. I don’t have a guess yet.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/52 "2019-06-06T13:19:03Z")

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I have 2 DQs left.

DQ: Known for authoring children’s books?  
DQ: Irish?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/53 "2019-06-06T13:43:44Z")

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N

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with N (though really it does)
4. Dead
5. Not born after 1950
6. Not American
7. Originally European
8. Born after 1850
9. Not political/military (but was a naval officer)
10. Known for the arts
11. Not born after 1900
12. Not known for the performing arts
13. Not mostly known for a single incident
14. Not known for the visual arts
15. Best known by a pseudonym
16. Known for the literary arts
17. British or Irish
18. Novelist
19. Not a journalist
20. Not a Londoner
21. Did not die before 1939
22. Greatest fame not before 1900
23. Known (though not exclusively) for mainstream fiction
24. Unusual first name
25. Movies made from several of my novels
26. Best known for a single novel
27. Movies made from my novels were not rated R or higher.
28. Not known for authoring children’s books
29. Not Irish

EH, Prof, SMV, KO, dm: Please ask your “Are you Firstname Lastname?” DQs by **Noon** Eastern tomorrow ( **Friday** ).

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/54 "2019-06-06T16:26:16Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Initial N. Is a possible, as well. I don’t have a guess yet.

I’m thinking his actual surname starts with an N, but his pseudonym doesn’t. Unfortunately, the only 20th c. male British writer I can think of who wrote under a pseudonym is John Le Carre, but his real name doesn’t start with “N”; it’s is “Cornwall”.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/55 "2019-06-06T21:35:29Z")

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The crickets are deafening today. Maybe this will help:

1. Known (though not exclusively, _and perhaps not best known_) for mainstream fiction

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/56 "2019-06-07T11:06:09Z")

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Well, I’m looking forward to the reveal.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/57 "2019-06-07T11:14:16Z")

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Ditto. Though I expect to feel a bit :smack:

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/58 "2019-06-07T13:27:05Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Though I expect to feel a bit :smack:

I think all of you will, especially the Prof and EH. This person has been used as the subject of IQs in the past.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/59 "2019-06-07T13:50:31Z")

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Nope, still drawing a blank.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2019/834880/60 "2019-06-07T14:35:07Z")

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Pass

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