# Botticelli June 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875 "2023-06-01T14:47:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/1 "2023-06-01T14:47:36Z")

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Hello hello hello and welcome to the June Botticelli thread, with me, your host W. De La Rue. [Here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/1) is last month’s thread, and here are the rules for anyone interested in joining:

**How does this work?**

One person, the host, is thinking of someone and gives an initial (“I am B.”). Could be a real person, could be fictional, initial could start the first name, initial could start the last name, whatever. Everyone else is trying to figure out who it is. Players first ask indirect questions, usually three per post, about people with that initial (“Did you paint a picture of Venus on a giant clamshell?”) and the host answers them (“I am not Botticelli.”).

**What if the host is correct?**  
Nothing happens.

**What if the host doesn’t know the answer?**  
The player gets to ask a direct yes-or-no question (“Real?” “First name begins with B?” etc.). Note that direct questions can be reserved, and asked later.

**Does a correct answer have to be who the player was thinking of?**  
If the host answers with a person who was _not_ who the player had in mind but who still correctly fits the question–e.g. thinking of Beethoven, asking “Were you a German classical composer,” and getting the response “I am not Bach”–the question has been correctly answered and again nothing happens.

**How long does this go on?**  
Until twenty direct questions have been answered (usually it’s best for the host to continually post an updated list.). Then players get any other earned direct questions in and people can get in one final direct guess at who it is (“Are you…”).

Whoever guesses the person correctly (whether by indirect question or final guess) gets to host the next round.

**Where does the name of the game come from?**  
Because the person has to be reasonably notable, as least as well-known as Botticelli. That being said…

**What if nobody guesses who the person is?**  
If it’s someone players have heard of, the host goes again. If none of the players have heard of the person, the previous host goes again.

OK:

I am **W**.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/2 "2023-06-01T15:23:53Z")

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Thanks for starting the new thread, **DLR.**

I’ll start the dance:

IQs:

1. Did you write the music that accompanied an iconic scene from an equally iconic movie about Viet Nam?
2. Were you a close friend and support staff for the most successful scarer in your power company, in a 2001 Pixar film?
3. If your father hadn’t moved before your birth, would you have gone down in history as the rather less poetic “Bard of Snitterfield”?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/3 "2023-06-01T15:28:33Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you have a hit with _The Woodchopper’s Ball_?
2. Would you rather pay me Tuesday for a hamburger today?
3. Are you the best known person from Elwood, Indiana?

And nice statement of the rules and purpose of the game, BTW.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/4 "2023-06-01T15:34:25Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write the music that accompanied an iconic scene from an equally iconic movie about Viet Nam?
> 2. Were you a close friend and support staff for the most successful scarer in your power company, in a 2001 Pixar film?
> 3. If your father hadn’t moved before your birth, would you have gone down in history as the rather less poetic “Bard of Snitterfield”?

1. I am not Richard Wagner.  
2. I am not Mike Wazowski.  
3. I am not William Shakespeare.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you have a hit with _The Woodchopper’s Ball_?
> 2. Would you rather pay me Tuesday for a hamburger today?
> 3. Are you the best known person from Elwood, Indiana?

1. I am not Mason Williams?  
2. I am not J. Wellington Wimpy.  
3. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/5 "2023-06-01T16:04:13Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > 1. Did you have a hit with _The Woodchopper’s Ball_?
> > 2. Would you rather pay me Tuesday for a hamburger today?
> > 3. Are you the best known person from Elwood, Indiana?
> 
> 1. I am not Mason Williams?
> 2. I am not J. Wellington Wimpy.
> 3. Take a DQ.

#1 was Woody Herman.  
#2 is correct.  
#3 was Wendell L. Willkie, failed presidential candidate of the 1940s.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/6 "2023-06-01T17:08:13Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did you write the music that accompanied an iconic scene from an equally iconic movie about Viet Nam?
> > 2. Were you a close friend and support staff for the most successful scarer in your power company, in a 2001 Pixar film?
> > 3. If your father hadn’t moved before your birth, would you have gone down in history as the rather less poetic “Bard of Snitterfield”?
> 
> 1. I am not Richard Wagner.
> 2. I am not Mike Wazowski.
> 3. I am not William Shakespeare.

Swept me!

IQs:

1. Are you a 13th c. nobleman-turned-guerilla commander, reputed by your followers to be seven feet tall and able to shoot fireballs out yer arse?

2. Are you a British general and nobleman called by your men (but never to your face) “Nosey”?

3. Did you rob banks because “that’s where the money’s at”?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/7 "2023-06-01T17:21:46Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you a 13th c. nobleman-turned-guerilla commander, reputed by your followers to be seven feet tall and able to shoot fireballs out yer arse?
> 2. Are you a British general and nobleman called by your men (but never to your face) “Nosey”?
> 3. Did you rob banks because “that’s where the money’s at”?

1. I am not William Wallace.  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. I am not Willie Sutton.

DQs:  
1. real  
2. male

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/8 "2023-06-01T17:38:00Z")

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Nos. 1 and 3 were correct. No. 2 was Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington, victor of the battle of Waterloo and possessor of a prominent beezer.

DQ:  
Living?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/9 "2023-06-01T17:50:52Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write the poem that starts “Laugh, and the world laughs with you…”?
2. Were you the announcer for the highly acclaimed 1950’s SASE BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
3. Were you a print artist whose brother was also the artist who painted _Christina’s World_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/10 "2023-06-01T18:33:36Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write the poem that starts “Laugh, and the world laughs with you…”?
> 2. Were you the announcer for the highly acclaimed 1950’s SASE BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
> 3. Were you a print artist whose brother was also the artist who painted _Christina’s World_?

1. Take a DQ.  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. I am not Wyeth.

DQs:  
1. real  
2. male  
3. living

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/11 "2023-06-01T18:47:35Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the first non-Italian elected head of your state in over five hundred years?

2. Were you a friend and ally of IQ1, the first democratically elected president of Poland, credited by many with bringing down the Iron Curtain?

3. Were you an ironically-named African-American gangster in _Boardwalk Empire_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/12 "2023-06-01T18:53:08Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
> >
> > 1. Did you write the poem that starts “Laugh, and the world laughs with you…”?
> > 2. Were you the announcer for the highly acclaimed 1950’s SASE BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
> > 3. Were you a print artist whose brother was also the artist who painted _Christina’s World_?
> 
> 1. Take a DQ.
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 3. I am not Wyeth.

#1 was Elsa Wheeler Wilcox.  
#2 was Wallace Greenslade.  
Correct on N. C. Wyeth (brother of Andrew).

DQs:

1. Born after 1970?
2. Last name starts with W?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/13 "2023-06-01T19:39:55Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the first non-Italian elected head of your state in over five hundred years?
> 2. Were you a friend and ally of IQ1, the first democratically elected president of Poland, credited by many with bringing down the Iron Curtain?
> 3. Were you an ironically-named African-American gangster in _Boardwalk Empire_?

1. I am not Karel Wojtyła, AKA Pope John Paul II.  
2. I am not Lech Walesa.  
3. Take a DQ. I suspect the word “White” is in there somewhere.

DQs:  
1. real  
2. male  
3. living  
4. born before 1970  
4. last name starts with W

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/14 "2023-06-01T21:16:16Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you the first non-Italian elected head of your state in over five hundred years?
> > 2. Were you a friend and ally of IQ1, the first democratically elected president of Poland, credited by many with bringing down the Iron Curtain?
> > 3. Were you an ironically-named African-American gangster in _Boardwalk Empire_?
> 
> 1. I am not Karel Wojtyła, AKA Pope John Paul II.  
> 2. I am not Lech Walesa.  
> 3. Take a DQ. I suspect the word “White” is in there somewhere
> 
> DQs:  
> 1. real  
> 2. male  
> 3. living  
> 4. born before 1970  
> 4. last name starts with W

Correct on 1 and 2. No. 3 was Chalky White, so doubly ironic.

DQ:

Known for the arts?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/15 "2023-06-02T00:54:00Z")

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IQ1: Was your left arm six inches shorter than your right arm, as a result of a difficult birth?  
IQ2: Were you #1’s grandfather?  
IQ3: Are you fond of Wensleydale cheese?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/16 "2023-06-02T01:25:30Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Was your left arm six inches shorter than your right arm, as a result of a difficult birth?  
> IQ2: Were you #1’s grandfather?  
> IQ3: Are you fond of Wensleydale cheese?

IQ1: I am not Kaiser Wilhelm.  
IQ2: I am not some other Wilhelm?  
IQ3: I am not Wallace.

DQs:

1. real
2. male
3. living
4. born before 1970
5. last name starts with W
6. known for the arts

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/17 "2023-06-02T03:08:55Z")

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IQs;

1. Were you a 16th c. Scottish martyr, mentor to John Knox, who was hanged and then burned for preaching Protestantism?

2. Do you run through the the town, upstairs and downstairs, in your nightgown?

3. Were you a former stripper, live sex show performer, lead singer for the Plasmatics, and Dunkin Donuts server?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/18 "2023-06-02T11:16:49Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you create Woody Woodpecker?
2. Did you create Pogo Possum?
3. Did you create Donald Duck?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/19 "2023-06-02T13:35:16Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
> >
> > IQ1: Was your left arm six inches shorter than your right arm, as a result of a difficult birth?  
> > IQ2: Were you #1’s grandfather?  
> > IQ3: Are you fond of Wensleydale cheese?
> 
> IQ1: I am not Kaiser Wilhelm.  
> IQ2: I am not some other Wilhelm?  
> IQ3: I am not Wallace.

Wilhelm II  
Wilhelm I  
correct

I think numbers should be specified when answering IQs about royalty, especially when more than one is being asked about. What say you all?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/20 "2023-06-02T13:58:39Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> IQs;
> 
> 1. Were you a 16th c. Scottish martyr, mentor to John Knox, who was hanged and then burned for preaching Protestantism?
> 2. Do you run through the the town, upstairs and downstairs, in your nightgown?
> 3. Were you a former stripper, live sex show performer, lead singer for the Plasmatics, and Dunkin Donuts server?

1. Take a DQ.  
2. I am not Wee Willie Winkie.  
3. I am not Wendy O. Williams.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you create Woody Woodpecker?
> 2. Did you create Pogo Possum?
> 3. Did you create Donald Duck?

1. I am not Walter Lantz.  
2. I am not Walt Kelly.  
3. I am not Walt Disney.

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