# Botticelli June 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 1, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875 "2023-06-01T14:47:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/181 "2023-06-20T13:49:02Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > Okay, new IQs: > > > > 1. Did you find it impossible to out run a tortoise, if you gave it a head start? > > 2. Are you a now-banned Doper who famously considered an uninvited handshake equivalent to rape? > > 3. In the rock opera _Jesus Christ Superstar_, did you urge Jesus to “keep them yelling their devotion/ but add a touch of hate at Rome”? > > 1. I am not Zeno. > 2. Take a DQ. > 3. I am not Simon Zelotes Correct on Zeno and Simon Zealotes; No. 2 was the late **ZPG Zealot**. DQ: 1. Protagonist of the work in which he appears? IQs: 1. Did you rescue John McClane when a terrorist forced him to parade through Harlem wearing a racist sign? 2. Were you the straight man to your brothers, though occasionally filling in for your more famous comic elder brother? 3. Were you the original Max Bialystock in the theatrical run of _The Producers_ and Pseudolus in _A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum_, as well as originating a more famous role? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/182 "2023-06-20T14:06:15Z")
DQs: 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. American 4. Last name starts with Z 5. Did not originally appear in a prose work. 6. Would be alive today, if real 7. Supporting character to the protagonists ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/183 "2023-06-20T14:06:53Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you rescue John McClane when a terrorist forced him to parade through Harlem wearing a racist sign? > 2. Were you the straight man to your brothers, though occasionally filling in for your more famous comic elder brother? > 3. Were you the original Max Bialystock in the theatrical run of _The Producers_ and Pseudolus in _A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum_, as well as originating a more famous role? 1. I am not Zeus. 2. I am not Zeppo Marx. 3. I am not Zero Mostel. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/184 "2023-06-20T14:48:33Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Did you rescue John McClane when a terrorist forced him to parade through Harlem wearing a racist sign? > > 2. Were you the straight man to your brothers, though occasionally filling in for your more famous comic elder brother? > > 3. Were you the original Max Bialystock in the theatrical run of _The Producers_ and Pseudolus in _A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum_, as well as originating a more famous role? > > 1. I am not Zeus. > 2. I am not Zeppo Marx. > 3. I am not Zero Mostel Swept again. IQs: 1. Are some of your followers called Parsees? 2. Is another transliteration of your name now inescapably associated with bone-wielding murderous apes and a enigmatic monolith? 3. Were you the poet and speculative fiction novelist that Neil Gaiman claims as his biggest influence? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/185 "2023-06-20T15:09:32Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > - Are you burnt in effigy each year at the end of the Santa Fe Fiesta. > - Are you a Jewish Comedian who was named Time magazine’s person of the year. > - Did you injure yourself when you tried to take off your underwear without removing your pants. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > #2. I am not Zelenskyy. > Take 2 DQs. 1. [Zozobra](https://burnzozobra.com/) 2. Correct 3. [Derek Zoolander](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zavgk2_BJs) DQ: First appeared before 2000? First appeared in movies? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/186 "2023-06-20T15:32:03Z")
DQs: 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. American 4. Last name starts with Z 5. Did not originally appear in a prose work. 6. Would be alive today, if real 7. Supporting character to the protagonists 8. First appeared before 2000 9. First appeared in movies ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/187 "2023-06-20T15:33:17Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are some of your followers called Parsees? > 2. Is another transliteration of your name now inescapably associated with bone-wielding murderous apes and a enigmatic monolith? > 3. Were you the poet and speculative fiction novelist that Neil Gaiman claims as his biggest influence? 1-2. I am not Zarathustra/Zoroaster. 3. I am not Roger Zelazny (??) ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/188 "2023-06-20T16:05:17Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Are some of your followers called Parsees? > > 2. Is another transliteration of your name now inescapably associated with bone-wielding murderous apes and a enigmatic monolith? > > 3. Were you the poet and speculative fiction novelist that Neil Gaiman claims as his biggest influence? > > 1-2. I am not Zarathustra/Zoroaster > 3. I am not Roger Zelazny (??) Correct on all three again! Let us try once again to stump the fiendishly clever Professor… IQs: 1. Did your ill-considered missive help convince the U.S. government to enter World War I on the Allies’ side? 2. Were you one of the three founders of Paramount Pictures, and the producer of _The Prisoner of Zelda_? 3. Were you a diplomat who first _and_ last name included the letters _z_ and _b_ (and whose full first, middle, and surname contained a whopping five _z_’s)? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/189 "2023-06-20T16:11:55Z")
Previous IQs: You are a pre-1950 movie character. Did you never live in a drafty old house in Pottersville? - Zuzu Bailey, she of the flower petals, in _It’s a Wonderful Life_ Were you a much-put-upon alien on _Babylon 5_? - Zathras Was a Secret Service agent killed during your kidnapping? - Zoey Bartlet, on _The West Wing_ DQs: First appeared before 1960? Good guy? In a genre film (Western, detective, spies, sf, fantasy, etc.)? IQs: Did you play the mom of two different doomed young women on TV? Were you lobby boy at the Grand Budapest Hotel? Were you a prominent Ohio social activist? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/190 "2023-06-20T16:17:27Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did your ill-considered missive help convince the U.S. government to enter World War I on the Allies’ side? > 2. Were you one of the three founders of Paramount Pictures, and the producer of _The Prisoner of Zelda_? > 3. Were you a diplomat who first _and_ last name included the letters _z_ and _b_ (and whose full first, middle, and surname contained a whopping five _z_’s)? 1. I am not Zimmerman. 2. Take a DQ. 3. I am not Zbigniew Brzezinky (sp?) > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you play the mom of two different doomed young women on TV? > Were you lobby boy at the Grand Budapest Hotel? > Were you a prominent Ohio social activist? Take 3 DQs. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/191 "2023-06-20T16:18:24Z")
DQs: 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. American 4. Last name starts with Z 5. Did not originally appear in a prose work. 6. Would be alive today, if real 7. Supporting character to the protagonists 8. First appeared before 2000 9. First appeared in movies 10. First appeared after 1960 11. Good guy 12. In genre films ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/192 "2023-06-20T16:38:13Z")
Previous IQs: Did you play the mom of two different doomed young women on TV? - Grace Zabriskie, on _Twin Peaks_ (Laura Palmer) and _Seinfeld_ (Susan, George’s fiancee) Were you lobby boy at the Grand Budapest Hotel? - Zero, in the Wes Anderson movie Were you a prominent Ohio social activist? - Zelma George DQs: Sf/fantasy film? Films were part of a franchise? One DQ reserved. IQs: Were you a Mobile Infantry drill instructor? Did POTUS kneel before you? Were you prominent Swiss Protestant reformer? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/193 "2023-06-20T17:10:16Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Did your ill-considered missive help convince the U.S. government to enter World War I on the Allies’ side? > > 2. Were you one of the three founders of Paramount Pictures, and the producer of _The Prisoner of Zelda_? > > 3. Were you a diplomat who first _and_ last name included the letters _z_ and _b_ (and whose full first, middle, and surname contained a whopping five _z_’s)? > > 1. I am not Zimmerman. > 2. Take a DQ. > 3. I am not Zbigniew Brzezinky (sp?) Correct on German Foreign Minister Arthur Zimmerman, and the majestically-named Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski. 1 DQ reserved. IQs: 1. Are you one of the two minor prophets who would qualify for this round of Botticelli? 2. Are you the other? 3. Did you play a medical intern who was tormented by a janitor? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/194 "2023-06-20T17:35:57Z")
IQs: 1. Are you a sabre toothed tiger 2. Are you an African warlord who was the subject of a TV miniseries in the 80’s 3. Are you a fantasy and science fiction writer who was accused of abetting child molestation. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/195 "2023-06-20T17:43:53Z")
DQs: 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. American 4. Last name starts with Z 5. Did not originally appear in a prose work. 6. Would be alive today, if real 7. Supporting character to the protagonists 8. First appeared before 2000 9. First appeared in movies 10. First appeared after 1960 11. Good guy 12. In genre films 13. SciFi/Fantasy genre 14. Films are part of a franchise ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/196 "2023-06-20T17:46:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you a Mobile Infantry drill instructor? > Did POTUS kneel before you? > Were you prominent Swiss Protestant reformer? #1. Take a DQ. #2. I am not General Zod. #3. I am not Ulrich Zwingli. > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you one of the two minor prophets who would qualify for this round of Botticelli? > 2. Are you the other? > 3. Did you play a medical intern who was tormented by a janitor? 1. I am not Zechariah. 2. I am not Zephaniah. 3. Take a DQ. > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you a sabre toothed tiger > 2. Are you an African warlord who was the subject of a TV miniseries in the 80’s > 3. Are you a fantasy and science fiction writer who was accused of abetting child molestation. 1. I am not Zabu. 2. Take a DQ. 3. That was Anne McCaffrey’s writer-husband, if I remember correctly. But no name, so take a DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/197 "2023-06-20T17:53:48Z")
I just realized I never gave the answer about the producer of _Prisoner of Zenda_, and co-founder of Paramount: it was the Hungarian-American Adolf Zukor. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/198 "2023-06-20T18:23:49Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Are you one of the two minor prophets who would qualify for this round of Botticelli? > > 2. Are you the other? > > 3. Did you play a medical intern who was tormented by a janitor? > > 1. I am not Zechariah. > 2. I am not Zephaniah. > 3. Take a DQ. Correct and correct. Zach Braff played Dr. John “J.D.” Dorian on _[scrubs]_; his character was frequently tormented by Neil Flynn’s Janitor. DQ: Science fiction/fantasy films? One DQ reserved. IQs: 1. Were you an American theatrical impresario famous for your elaborate revues featuring dancing chorus girls? 2. Were you a silent film actress who successfully made the transition to talkies, and whose fluttery voice was supposedly the inspiration for Olive Oyl’s voice actress? 3. Were you a hard-partying exemplar of the Jazz Age, who died in a mental health facility after being diagnosed with schizophrenia, which modern scholars now believe to have been most likely bipolar disorder? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/199 "2023-06-20T18:40:59Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > DQ: Science fiction/fantasy films? > > One DQ reserved. > > IQs: > > 1. Were you an American theatrical impresario famous for your elaborate revues featuring dancing chorus girls? > 2. Were you a silent film actress who successfully made the transition to talkies, and whose fluttery voice was supposedly the inspiration for Olive Oyl’s voice actress? > 3. Were you a hard-partying exemplar of the Jazz Age, who died in a mental health facility after being diagnosed with schizophrenia, which modern scholars now believe to have been most likely bipolar disorder? See DQ #13 above. Try another DQ. 1. I am not Florenz Ziegfeld. 2. I am not Zasu Pitts (??) 3. I am not Zelda Fitzgerald. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/200 "2023-06-20T19:02:26Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > - I am not Zabu. > - Take a DQ. > - That was Anne McCaffrey’s writer-husband, if I remember correctly. But no name, so take a DQ. 1. Correct 2. Shaka Zulu 3. I think you’re mixing up McCaffrey with Marion **Zimmer** Bradley whose husband was a child molester. You can read the dragon rider novels guilt-free. 🙂 2 DQ’s reserved [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875.md?page=11)