# Botticelli June 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875 "2023-06-01T14:47:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/301 "2023-06-28T23:24:36Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1-2: Were you a married couple who starred in several stories by Agatha Christie?  
> IQ3: Were you Honey Wheeler’s governess?

Neither Tommy nor Tuppence  
Take a DQ

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Have you been played by a badger and (in a way) Mel Brooks?
> 2. Is your autobiography _sTORI Telling_ [sic]?
> 3. Is a New Jersey rest stop named after you?

DQ  
Not Tori Spelling? - DQ if that guess is wrong  
DQ

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/302 "2023-06-28T23:34:05Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> DQ  
> Not Tori Spelling? - DQ if that guess is wrong  
> DQ

1 was Friar Tuck (in the Disney version of _Robin Hood_ and as Rabbi Tuckman in _Robin Hood: Men in Tights_); 2 was correct; 3 was Thomas Edison.

DQs:  
1. created after 1900?  
2. first name begins with T?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/303 "2023-06-28T23:37:57Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Created after 1900
4. First name begins with T

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/304 "2023-06-28T23:48:33Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
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> > IQ1-2: Were you a married couple who starred in several stories by Agatha Christie?  
> > IQ3: Were you Honey Wheeler’s governess?
> 
> Neither Tommy nor Tuppence  
> Take a DQ

correct x2  
Miss Trask

DQ: Originally from prose fiction?

IQ1: Speaking of Honey Wheeler, were you her neighbour and best friend?  
IQ2: Did you steal a pig and run away?  
IQ3: Was the Dragon Lady a regular antagonist for you?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/305 "2023-06-28T23:54:30Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Created after 1900
4. First name begins with T
5. Originally from prose fiction

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/306 "2023-06-28T23:55:02Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Speaking of Honey Wheeler, were you her neighbour and best friend?  
> IQ2: Did you steal a pig and run away?  
> IQ3: Was the Dragon Lady a regular antagonist for you?

DQ  
Not Tom, Tom, the piper’s son  
DQ

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/307 "2023-06-28T23:56:38Z")

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IQs:  
1. Will you stare directly at the sun but never in the mirror?  
2. Were you one of Ms. Frizzle’s students?  
3. Were you on the PMRC?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/308 "2023-06-29T00:00:48Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Will you stare directly at the sun but never in the mirror?
> 2. Were you one of Ms. Frizzle’s students?
> 3. Were you on the PMRC?

Not Taylor Swift  
DQ  
Not Tipper Gore

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/309 "2023-06-29T00:14:31Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> However, I will submit this to the judgment of the group; if you feel I’ve violated the spirit of the game, I will forfeit my guess and let @ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness pick another; whatever you all feel is fair. I won’t interfere in your discussion, but abide your judgment.

Full disclosure I’ve sometimes used the internet to check that a proposed IQ was technically correct before posting it. For example I might remember the Opus memoir was “Naked I came” check the internet before posting and replace it with “Naked came I” in the actual post. Or perhaps if in looking I found that I misremembered and it was an entirely different character then I wouldn’t use that IQ at all. I think that this is fair since I am relying purely on my memory for the basic nature of the question and just reducing the number of eventual retractions.

But it think for answering an IQ as the leader, or a final first/last name guess it should be based entirely on memory, with some slack given for getting it mostly right.

on to T.

IQ:

1. Did you create Drax the Destroyer
2. Did the Moody Blues write a song proclaiming your death decades before actually died
3. Are you Wendy’s Native American rival

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/310 "2023-06-29T00:38:10Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Not Taylor Swift  
> DQ  
> Not Tipper Gore

1 was Tim.

DQ: main character?

IQs:  
1. Did you claim that the difference between male and female comedy writers is that male writers urinate in cups?  
2. Do you hunt black vampires in _The Venture Bros._?  
3. As the judge remarked the day that he acquitted your aunt Hortense,  
To be smut  
It must be ut-  
Terly without redeeming social importance?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/311 "2023-06-29T01:05:15Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Created after 1900
4. First name begins with T
5. Originally from prose fiction
6. Main character

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/312 "2023-06-29T01:06:40Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> 1. Did you create Drax the Destroyer
> 2. Did the Moody Blues write a song proclaiming your death decades before actually died
> 3. Are you Wendy’s Native American rival

2 DQs  
Not Tiger Lily

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Did you claim that the difference between male and female comedy writers is that male writers urinate in cups?
> 2. Do you hunt black vampires in _The Venture Bros._?
> 3. As the judge remarked the day that he acquitted your aunt Hortense,  
> To be smut  
> It must be ut-  
> Terly without redeeming social importance?

Not Tina Fey?  
DQ  
Not Tom Lehrer

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/313 "2023-06-29T01:13:39Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > 1. Did you create Drax the Destroyer
> > 2. Did the Moody Blues write a song proclaiming your death decades before actually died
> > 3. Are you Wendy’s Native American rival
> 
> 2 DQs  
> Not Tiger Lily

1. Thanos
2. Timothy Leary in their song Legend of a Mind.
3. Correct

DQ:

1. Created after 1980
2. From science fiction/fantasy

PS: as a general rule, what does prose fiction include? is it just short stories and novels or does it include anything else, like graphic novels or children’s picture books?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/314 "2023-06-29T01:28:36Z")

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IQ

1. Have you been impeached more times than you’ve been elected to office?
2. Do you ride around in a chariot pulled by goats that you eat every night.
3. Were you given your powers by Dr. Doom in the first secret war.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/315 "2023-06-29T02:35:08Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Not Tina Fey?  
> DQ  
> Not Tom Lehrer

1 was correct; 2 was Jefferson Twilight; 3 was correct.

DQ: created by American?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/316 "2023-06-29T02:44:54Z")

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1. Did you play King Richard on **Galavant**?
2. Were you and your best friend Betsy the title hyphenated pair of a series of novels by Maud Lovelace?
3. Did you create the Moomins?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/317 "2023-06-29T03:17:07Z")

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IQs:  
1. Did you hang out with Spinelli, Gretchen, Gus, etc. at recess?  
2. Are you an alternate universe daughter of Nightcrawler and one of the original Exiles?  
3. Did your father have binders full of women?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/318 "2023-06-29T03:22:42Z")

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IQs:

Were you Odysseus’s loyal son?  
Did a top U.S. general have your name as his middle name?  
Did a notable sf character have your Roman name as his middle name?

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> …PS: as a general rule, what does prose fiction include? is it just short stories and novels or does it include anything else, like graphic novels or children’s picture books?

I would say definitely the first two, but not the last two, as the pictures are at least arguably more important than the words in those kinds of books.

Again, just my two cents’ worth.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/319 "2023-06-29T05:21:42Z")

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**T**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Created after 1900
4. First name begins with T
5. Originally from prose fiction
6. Main character
7. Created before 1980
8. From science fiction/fantasy
9. Created by an American

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/320 "2023-06-29T05:28:47Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> 1. Have you been impeached more times than you’ve been elected to office?
> 2. Do you ride around in a chariot pulled by goats that you eat every night.
> 3. Were you given your powers by Dr. Doom in the first secret war.

Not Donald Trump  
Not Thor  
DQ

> [@kitap](#):
>
> - Did you play King Richard on **Galavant**?
> - Were you and your best friend Betsy the title hyphenated pair of a series of novels by Maud Lovelace?
> - Did you create the Moomins?

3 DQs for you

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Did you hang out with Spinelli, Gretchen, Gus, etc. at recess?
> 2. Are you an alternate universe daughter of Nightcrawler and one of the original Exiles?
> 3. Did your father have binders full of women?

2 DQs  
Not Tagg Romney

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you Odysseus’s loyal son?  
> Did a top U.S. general have your name as his middle name?  
> Did a notable sf character have your Roman name as his middle name?

Not Telamaschus - I probably butchered the spelling  
DQ  
Not Tiberius as in James Tiberius Kirk

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Buck\_Godot](#):
> >
> > …PS: as a general rule, what does prose fiction include? is it just short stories and novels or does it include anything else, like graphic novels or children’s picture books?
> 
> I would say definitely the first two, but not the last two, as the pictures are at least arguably more important than the words in those kinds of books.

I’d say yes on the first two, no on graphic novel, no on a play, and it depends on children’s book. A Richard Scarry book - no, Dr. Seuss - yes. Probably depends on the word to picture ratio.

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