# Botticelli June 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 1, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875 "2023-06-01T14:47:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/361 "2023-06-30T03:29:53Z")
Still stumped. None of the ETs I can think of fit these clues. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/362 "2023-06-30T03:35:12Z")
> [@kitap](#): > > 1. Did you play King Richard on **Galavant**? > 2. Were you and your best friend Betsy the title hyphenated pair of a series of novels by Maud Lovelace? > 3. Did you create the Moomins? Timothy Omundson Tacy, from the Betsy-Tacy books Tove Janssen DQs: 1. Contemporary to when he was introduced? 2. Common first name? I DQ held. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/363 "2023-06-30T06:40:44Z")
**T** 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Created after 1900 4. First name begins with T 5. Originally from prose fiction 6. Main character 7. Created before 1980 8. From science fiction/fantasy 9. Created by an American 10. Created after 1950 11. Has appeared in film and/or TV 12. Could be alive today, if real. 13. Created before 1965 14. Not human 15. Has appeared in both film and TV 16. Known for poor lifestyle habits (i.e., smoking, drug use?) 17. On-screen performances were live-action 18. Not usually found on Earth - by which I mean extraterrestrial in origin, although other than some flashbacks the story takes place on Earth. 19. From a standalone book 20. Not from a work by Asimov, Bradbury or Heinlein 21. Not a robot 22. Not primarily a comedy in any incarnation 23. Film is better known than book 24. Contemporary to when he was introduced 25. Common first name ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/364 "2023-06-30T14:04:21Z")
DQ: Film was released in 2000 or earlier? One DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/365 "2023-06-30T14:14:31Z")
Well, that rules out Thanos 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/366 "2023-06-30T14:47:39Z")
My last DQ: Second letter of ‘T’ name is a vowel? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/367 "2023-06-30T16:35:55Z")
**T** 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Created after 1900 4. First name begins with T 5. Originally from prose fiction 6. Main character 7. Created before 1980 8. From science fiction/fantasy 9. Created by an American 10. Created after 1950 11. Has appeared in film and/or TV 12. Could be alive today, if real. 13. Created before 1965 14. Not human 15. Has appeared in both film and TV 16. Known for poor lifestyle habits (i.e., smoking, drug use?) 17. On-screen performances were live-action 18. Not usually found on Earth - by which I mean extraterrestrial in origin, although other than some flashbacks the story takes place on Earth. 19. From a standalone book 20. Not from a work by Asimov, Bradbury or Heinlein 21. Not a robot 22. Not primarily a comedy in any incarnation 23. Film is better known than book 24. Contemporary to when he was introduced 25. Common first name 26. Feature film was released in 2000 or earlier - TV version came after 27. Second letter of ‘T’ name is not a vowel ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/368 "2023-06-30T17:13:44Z")
By my accounting, @De_La_Rue and @kitap each have one outstanding DQ. Please ask your final DQs by 12 noon PST tomorrow July 1. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/369 "2023-06-30T17:47:55Z")
Final DQ: female creator? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/370 "2023-06-30T18:40:26Z")
**T** 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Created after 1900 4. First name begins with T 5. Originally from prose fiction 6. Main character 7. Created before 1980 8. From science fiction/fantasy 9. Created by an American 10. Created after 1950 11. Has appeared in film and/or TV 12. Could be alive today, if real. 13. Created before 1965 14. Not human 15. Has appeared in both film and TV 16. Known for poor lifestyle habits (i.e., smoking, drug use?) 17. On-screen performances were live-action 18. Not usually found on Earth - by which I mean extraterrestrial in origin, although other than some flashbacks the story takes place on Earth. 19. From a standalone book 20. Not from a work by Asimov, Bradbury or Heinlein 21. Not a robot 22. Not primarily a comedy in any incarnation 23. Film is better known than book 24. Contemporary to when he was introduced 25. Common first name 26. Feature film was released in 2000 or earlier - TV version came after 27. Second letter of ‘T’ name is not a vowel 28. Male creator I’d like to emphasize #23. To me at least, the film is much much more well known than the book. In fact, I saw the movie years ago on a re-release initiated to take advantage of a resurgence in the lead actor’s popularity, but it was only when confirming my answer to #5 that I found out it was based on a book. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/371 "2023-06-30T19:30:50Z")
Final DQ: title character of a 1970s movie? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/372 "2023-06-30T19:56:15Z")
**T** 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Created after 1900 4. First name begins with T 5. Originally from prose fiction 6. Main character 7. Created before 1980 8. From science fiction/fantasy 9. Created by an American 10. Created after 1950 11. Has appeared in film and/or TV 12. Could be alive today, if real. 13. Created before 1965 14. Not human 15. Has appeared in both film and TV 16. Known for poor lifestyle habits (i.e., smoking, drug use?) 17. On-screen performances were live-action 18. Not usually found on Earth - by which I mean extraterrestrial in origin, although other than some flashbacks the story takes place on Earth. 19. From a standalone book 20. Not from a work by Asimov, Bradbury or Heinlein 21. Not a robot 22. Not primarily a comedy in any incarnation 23. Film is better known than book 24. Contemporary to when he was introduced 25. Common first name 26. Feature film was released in 2000 or earlier - TV version came after 27. Second letter of ‘T’ name is not a vowel 28. Male creator 29. Title character of a 1970s movie - although my “T” name is not in the title That’s all the DQs, so get in your Firstname Lastname guesses by 6 pm PDT tomorrow, July 1 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/373 "2023-06-30T19:58:37Z")
Wildass guess: Are you the lead character from _The Man Who Fell to Earth_? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/374 "2023-06-30T23:23:14Z")
That’s a really nice guess in any case. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/375 "2023-06-30T23:40:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Are you the lead character from _The Man Who Fell to Earth_? Your wild ass has served you well because **YES!!** I am **Thomas Jerome Newton** the titular Man Who Fell to Earth, played by David Bowie in the 1976 feature film by Nicholas Roeg, and apparently played by Bill Nighy in the recent Showtime sequel series. Another thing that surprised me when finding out about the book was that the author was American. The film is very European, with a British director and star, so I assumed the book would have been British as well. The 1983 re-issue I saw played art houses and had restored 20 minutes (some full frontal male nudity among other things) that was cut by the US distributor to get an R-rating and was cashing in on Bowie’s increased popularity in the wake of his _Let’s Dance_ album. The book is by Walter Tevis, an author I’ve never heard of. But 3 of his other works have quite popular screen adaptations. The Paul Newman two-fer _The Hustler_ and its sequel _The Color of Money_, as well as the recent Netflix hit _The Queen’s Gambit_ Congratulations Elendil\_s\_Heir, and go ahead and start the July thread a day early. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/376 "2023-06-30T23:43:26Z")
I’ve heard of the movie but never saw it. I didn’t know about the TV series either. I have read _The Queen’s Gambit_. Very nice choice, **CROHG**! Great job, **EH!** ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/377 "2023-07-01T01:39:33Z")
Thanks, **CFOHG**! Good one. I’ve never seen the whole movie, just scenes from it, but it fit the clues already given, I thought. And I had no idea the same guy wrote _The Queen’s Gambit_! I’m on the road now, and will start the next round - and a new thread - tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/378 "2023-07-01T02:40:25Z")
Good one, **EH**! ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/379 "2023-07-01T03:01:25Z")
Congrats! Never ever would have gotten it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/380 "2023-07-01T15:38:52Z")
Thanks. Our new thread: [Botticelli, July 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2023/986407) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875.md?page=18)