# Botticelli June 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875 "2023-06-01T14:47:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/21 "2023-06-02T14:07:38Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> I think numbers should be specified when answering IQs about royalty, especially when more than one is being asked about. What say you all?

I concur wholeheartedly.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/22 "2023-06-02T20:38:14Z")

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As do I.

W it is.

IQs:

Were you a prominent British abolitionist?  
Were you a prominent American abolitionist and editor of _The Liberator_?  
Are you known for your photos of dogs dressed in human clothing?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/23 "2023-06-02T21:16:39Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Take a DQ.
> 2. I am not Wee Willie Winkie.
> 3. I am not Wendy O. Williams.

No. 1 was [George Wishart](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wishart). Correct on Nos. 2 and 3.

DQ:  
Known for music?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/24 "2023-06-03T01:46:21Z")

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I think I should get credit for knowing Kaiser Wilhelm had one arm shorter than the other, but not for assuming his grandfather would be also be named Wilhelm, knowing literally nothing else about the grandfather, including number.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a prominent British abolitionist?  
> Were you a prominent American abolitionist and editor of _The Liberator_?  
> Are you known for your photos of dogs dressed in human clothing?

Respectively:  
I am not William Wilberforce.  
See, I can guess this is another William, but I shouldn’t get credit just for saying William.  
I am not William Wegman.

DQs:

1. real  
2. male  
3. living  
4. born before 1970  
5. last name starts with W  
6. known for the arts  
7. not known for music

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/25 "2023-06-03T03:16:39Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you an Anglo-Irish writer, better-known in your lifetime for your plays _An Ideal Husband_ and _The Importance Of Being Earnest_ than for the novel for which you are most famous now?

2. Are you an expatriate American artist whose most famous work, “An Arrangement In Gray And Black”, is better known by its nickname?

3. Did you direct Marilyn Monroe in _The Seven Year Itch_ and _Some Like It Hot_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/26 "2023-06-03T17:06:13Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> I think I should get credit for knowing Kaiser Wilhelm had one arm shorter than the other, but not for assuming his grandfather would be also be named Wilhelm, knowing literally nothing else about the grandfather, including number.

You’ll notice I didn’t claim DQs for either of them.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/27 "2023-06-03T19:36:08Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a prominent British abolitionist? - Yes, William Wilberforce  
Were you a prominent American abolitionist and editor of _The Liberator_? - The irascible William Lloyd Garrison  
Are you known for your photos of dogs dressed in human clothing? - Yes, William Wegman

William x3!

DQ:

Known for the performing arts?

IQs:

Did you fall just one vote shy of becoming President in 1868?  
Did you have a horse named Nelson and a dog named Sweetlips?  
Did you found Western Union?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/28 "2023-06-04T01:58:14Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you an Anglo-Irish writer, better-known in your lifetime for your plays _An Ideal Husband_ and _The Importance Of Being Earnest_ than for the novel for which you are most famous now?
> 2. Are you an expatriate American artist whose most famous work, “An Arrangement In Gray And Black”, is better known by its nickname?
> 3. Did you direct Marilyn Monroe in _The Seven Year Itch_ and _Some Like It Hot_?

1. I am not Oscar Wilde.  
2. I am not James McNeil Whistler.  
3. I am not Billy Wilder.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you fall just one vote shy of becoming President in 1868?  
> Did you have a horse named Nelson and a dog named Sweetlips?  
> Did you found Western Union?

Respectively:  
Take a DQ.  
I am not George Washington.  
Take a DQ.

DQs:

1. real
2. male
3. living
4. born before 1970
5. last name starts with W
6. known for the arts
7. not known for music
8. known for the performing arts

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/29 "2023-06-04T03:24:05Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you fall just one vote shy of becoming President in 1868? - Sen. “Bluff Ben” Wade of Ohio, during Andrew Johnson’s impeachment trial; Wade was next in line  
Did you have a horse named Nelson and a dog named Sweetlips? - Yes, George Washington  
Did you found Western Union? - Jeptha Wade

DQs:

Best known as an actor?  
American?

IQs:

Did JFK put you on SCOTUS?  
Were you a noted Gilded Age architect?  
Were you the secretive billionaire, loosely based on Howard Hughes, in _Diamonds Are Forever_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/30 "2023-06-04T11:54:26Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you best remembered for playing Tarzan?
2. Were you Ronald Reagan’s first wife?
3. Did you write _Tracticus Logico-Philosophicus_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/31 "2023-06-04T13:15:03Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did JFK put you on SCOTUS?  
> Were you a noted Gilded Age architect?  
> Were you the secretive billionaire, loosely based on Howard Hughes, in _Diamonds Are Forever_?

Respectively:  
Take a DQ.  
Take a DQ.  
I am not Willard Whyte.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you best remembered for playing Tarzan?
> 2. Were you Ronald Reagan’s first wife?
> 3. Did you write _Tracticus Logico-Philosophicus_?

1. I am not Johnny Weissmuller.  
2. I am not Jane Wyman.  
3. I am not Ludwig Wittgenstein.

DQs:

1. real  
2. male  
3. living  
4. born before 1970  
5. last name starts with W  
6. known for the arts  
7. not known for music  
8. known for the performing arts  
9. best known as an actor  
10. American

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/32 "2023-06-04T14:55:43Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did JFK put you on SCOTUS? - Justice Byron “Whizzer” White  
Were you a noted Gilded Age architect? - Stanford White, killed by his lover’s jealous husband  
Were you the secretive billionaire, loosely based on Howard Hughes, in _Diamonds Are Forever_? - Yes, Willard Whyte

DQs:

Leading man?  
Best known for movies?

IQs:

Have you played an ADA, a law school dean and a POTUS?  
Did you die not long after completing the filming of your role in _Stripes_?  
Did you play Commodore Matt Decker?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/33 "2023-06-04T15:51:23Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. I am not Oscar Wilde.
> 2. I am not James McNeil Whistler.
> 3. I am not Billy Wilder.

Swept me!

IQs:

1. Did you write _The Moonstone_, considered to be the first police procedural?

2. Were you the Republican nominee for President in 1940?

3. Did you steal a magic ring, setting in motion a chain of events lasting for years, and chronicled over the course of four stories?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/34 "2023-06-05T13:49:13Z")

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Swept me twice!

IQs:

1. Were you known as “the Honky Tonk Heroine”?
2. Did you appear with Dan Fogelberg on the album _Twin Sons of Different Mothers_?
3. Were you Bob Elliott’s radio interviewer character?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/35 "2023-06-05T14:10:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Have you played an ADA, a law school dean and a POTUS?  
> Did you die not long after completing the filming of your role in _Stripes_?  
> Did you play Commodore Matt Decker?

Respectively:  
Take a DQ.  
I am not Warren Oates.  
I am not William Windom.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write _The Moonstone_, considered to be the first police procedural?
> 2. Were you the Republican nominee for President in 1940?
> 3. Did you steal a magic ring, setting in motion a chain of events lasting for years, and chronicled over the course of four stories?

1. I am not Wilkie Collins.  
2. I am not the previously-used Wendell Willkie.  
3. Take a DQ.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you known as “the Honky Tonk Heroine”?
> 2. Did you appear with Dan Fogelberg on the album _Twin Sons of Different Mothers_?
> 3. Were you Bob Elliott’s radio interviewer character?

1. Take a DQ.  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. I am not Wally Ballou.

DQs:

1. real  
2. male  
3. living  
4. born before 1970  
5. last name starts with W  
6. known for the arts  
7. not known for music  
8. known for the performing arts  
9. best known as an actor  
10. American  
11. leading man  
12. best known for movies

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/36 "2023-06-05T14:12:15Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you known as “the Honky Tonk Heroine”?
> > 2. Did you appear with Dan Fogelberg on the album _Twin Sons of Different Mothers_?
> > 3. Were you Bob Elliott’s radio interviewer character?
> 
> 1. Take a DQ.
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 3. I am not Wally Ballou.

#1 was Kitty Wells.  
#2 is Tim Weisberg.  
Correct on Wally.

DQs:

1. Known for comedies?
2. Common last name?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/37 "2023-06-05T16:13:49Z")

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The Honky Tonk Heroine, upon correction, was Jean Shepherd. So just go with

DQ: Common last name?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/38 "2023-06-05T17:11:17Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the title character in Gilbert & Sullivan’s _The Sorcerer_?
2. Were you the protagonist in _Ringworld_?
3. Did Billie Hayes play you on _H. R. Pufnstuf_?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/39 "2023-06-05T17:35:16Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > 1. Did you write _The Moonstone_, considered to be the first police procedural?
> > 2. Were you the Republican nominee for President in 1940?
> > 3. Did you steal a magic ring, setting in motion a chain of events lasting for years, and chronicled over the course of four stories?
> 
> 1. I am not Wilkie Collins.
> 2. I am not the previously-used Wendell Willkie.
> 3. Take a DQ.

Correct on Nos. 1 and 2. No. 3 was me being a bit sneaky: the answer is Wotan, whose theft, loss, and subsequent attempts to reclaim the magic ring crafted by Alberich the Dwarf is the driver of the _Ring of the Nibelung_ cycle.

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/40 "2023-06-05T17:58:51Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a smith from Germanic mythology, said to have forged Excalibur and the paladin Roland’s sword Durendal?

2. Were you a former newspaper editor and adulterer who conducted the last “front-porch” campaign for the Presidency?

3. Did missing a flight save your life, allowing you to subsequently release country music’s first platinum album?

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