# Botticelli June 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 1, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875 "2023-06-01T14:47:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 8

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/141 "2023-06-16T20:21:15Z")

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L.

1. real
2. male
3. last name starts with L
4. dead
5. not known for the Arts
6. died after 1900
7. not really known for politics/military
8. died before 1970
9. known, in a way, for business
10. American
11. known for inventing something or innovating the new way something was done (e.g. first person to put ads on radio), arguably
12. born before 1890
13. Caucasian

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/142 "2023-06-16T20:38:31Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Were you one of the most famous stars of the Harlem Globetrotters, and the second-greatest basketball player to come from Wilmington, N.C.?
> > 2. Did you write a series of thirteen children’s books, concealing your real name, Daniel Handler, under this pseudonym?
> > 3. Were you a writer for a fictional sketch comedy show, based on your actress and creator’s experiences as a writer for a famous real-life sketch comedy show?
> 
> Not Meadowlark Lemon, not Lemony Snicket and not Julia Louis-Dreyfus (sp?).

Correct on Meadowlark Lemon, Wilmington’s second-greatest basketball player (the first being, obviously, Michael Jordan), and Lemony Snicket. No. 3 was Liz Lemon, of _30 Rock_, created and played by Tina Fey. A basketful of Lemons!

DQ: Disgraced or associated with a scandal?

I.Q.s

1. Were you one of the first successful female businesswomen in the United States, selling a “menstrual relief” compound that became a synonym for quack medicine?

2. Were you one of the founders and organizers of the modern Italian Mob in the United States, despite being Jewish?

3. Were you the Sicilian-born associate and partner of IQ 2, famous for supposedly surviving being “taken for a ride”?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/143 "2023-06-16T20:46:27Z")

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DQ: Associated with a specific business company?

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/144 "2023-06-16T22:11:43Z")

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DQ: Died before 1950?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/145 "2023-06-17T04:48:45Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > IQ1: Were you the first woman to win both the Hugo and Nebula awards for one of your works?  
> > IQ2: Are you an overly affectionate skunk?  
> > IQ3: Did you sing a song whose title became a SDMB meme?
> 
> Not Ursula K. LeGuin, not Louis Loverboy Skunk and not Simon “Rio” LeBon of Duran Duran.

Correct  
Pepe LePew  
Correct

Holding 1 new + 1 previous DQ

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/146 "2023-06-17T06:06:02Z")

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IQ:

1. Did you violently kick a Persian Messenger into a pit?
2. Are you highly cited for the plot of a function you invented despite the fact that all that is known about it is that it starts and ends at zero., and goes up somewhere in the middle.
3. Despite poetry claiming otherwise were you found not guilty of killing your family.

DQ:  
Known for advertising.  
2 DQ still reserved

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/147 "2023-06-17T21:39:32Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> I.Q.s
> 
> 1. Were you one of the first successful female businesswomen in the United States, selling a “menstrual relief” compound that became a synonym for quack medicine?
> 
> 2. Were you one of the founders and organizers of the modern Italian Mob in the United States, despite being Jewish?
> 
> 3. Were you the Sicilian-born associate and partner of IQ 2, famous for supposedly surviving being “taken for a ride”?

Dunno, but not Meyer Lansky or Lucky Luciano.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/148 "2023-06-17T21:41:13Z")

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L.

1. real
2. male
3. last name starts with L
4. dead
5. not known for the Arts
6. died after 1900
7. not really known for politics/military
8. died before 1970
9. known, in a way, for business
10. American
11. known for inventing something or innovating the new way something was done (e.g. first person to put ads on radio), arguably
12. born before 1890
13. Caucasian
14. disgraced or associated with a scandal
15. not associated with a specific business company
16. died before 1950
17. not known for advertising

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/149 "2023-06-17T21:45:41Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> IQ:
> 
> 1. Did you violently kick a Persian Messenger into a pit?
> 2. Are you highly cited for the plot of a function you invented despite the fact that all that is known about it is that it starts and ends at zero., and goes up somewhere in the middle.
> 3. Despite poetry claiming otherwise were you found not guilty of killing your family.

Not Leonidas of Sparta, not Laurence Fermat, and not Lizzie Borden

No more IQs, please, as I think we’re at 20 if not over.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/150 "2023-06-17T22:00:01Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Leonidas of Sparta, not Laurence Fermat, and not Lizzie Borden

First and third are correct,

But I don’t think the second one is correct unless you can point me to a function that Fermat invented that matches the description.

The answer I was looking for was Arthur Laffer of the Laffer curve. Of which all is known is that 0% taxes lead to zero revenue and 100% taxes lead to zero revenue, and between that you get some revenue, but that’s it. Still its often cited as proof that lower taxes will result in increased revenue.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/151 "2023-06-17T22:41:36Z")

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DQ: Remembered because of his death or its circumstances?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/152 "2023-06-17T22:57:22Z")

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I was just guessing, **BG** (I don’t even know if that’s Fermat’s actual first name). Take a DQ.

L.

1. real
2. male
3. last name starts with L
4. dead
5. not known for the Arts
6. died after 1900
7. not really known for politics/military
8. died before 1970
9. known, in a way, for business
10. American
11. known for inventing something or innovating the new way something was done (e.g. first person to put ads on radio), arguably
12. born before 1890
13. Caucasian
14. disgraced or associated with a scandal
15. not associated with a specific business company
16. died before 1950
17. not known for advertising
18. not remembered because of his death or its circumstances

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/153 "2023-06-17T23:04:12Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > I.Q.s
> > 
> > 1. Were you one of the first successful female businesswomen in the United States, selling a “menstrual relief” compound that became a synonym for quack medicine?
> > 
> > 2. Were you one of the founders and organizers of the modern Italian Mob in the United States, despite being Jewish?
> > 
> > 3. Were you the Sicilian-born associate and partner of IQ 2, famous for supposedly surviving being “taken for a ride”?
> 
> Dunno, but not Meyer Lansky or Lucky Luciano

Correct on the quondam Maier Suchowljansky and Salvatore Lucania; No. 1 was Lydia Pinkham.

DQ: Last name starts La - Li?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/154 "2023-06-18T05:04:47Z")

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DQ: Died of natural causes?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/155 "2023-06-18T05:18:46Z")

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DQ: Associated with sports?  
Holding one DQ

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/156 "2023-06-18T14:37:53Z")

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For the record, it was Pierre de Fermat.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/157 "2023-06-18T14:40:01Z")

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Ah, thanks.

L.

1. real
2. male
3. last name starts with L
4. dead
5. not known for the Arts
6. died after 1900
7. not really known for politics/military
8. died before 1970
9. known, in a way, for business
10. American
11. known for inventing something or innovating the new way something was done (e.g. first person to put ads on radio), arguably
12. born before 1890
13. Caucasian
14. disgraced or associated with a scandal
15. not associated with a specific business company
16. died before 1950
17. not known for advertising
18. not remembered because of his death or its circumstances
19. last name starts La-Li
20. died of natural causes
21. associated with sports

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/158 "2023-06-18T15:35:43Z")

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FirstName LastName Question: Are you Judge Kennesaw Mountain Landis (sp?)?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/159 "2023-06-19T06:01:42Z")

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Yep, that’s who I had in mind with the sports DQ. If it not him, I’m stumped.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875/160 "2023-06-19T11:10:18Z")

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And that is spelled correctly.

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