# Botticelli, June 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 2, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118 "2025-06-02T19:30:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 13

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/241 "2025-06-29T04:50:26Z")

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Previous IQs:

Have you written several books set in a town in which the MLB team is called the Trappers? - Scott Turow, in his Kindle County books, beginning with _Presumed Innocent_  
Are you a noted writer who attended Oberlin College but didn’t graduate from there? - Thornton Wilder  
Did you write _The Killer Inside Me_? - Jim Thompson

DQs:

Best known for short stories?  
Has won a Pulitzer or other top prize?

IQs:

Is the main square in Oberlin, Ohio named after you, a prominent abolitionist?  
Did your character rant in _It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World_ about America’s obsession with bosoms?  
Did Fitzgerald originally consider including your name in the title of what became _The Great Gatsby_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/242 "2025-06-29T14:48:19Z")

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DQs:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Last name begins with T
4. Dead
5. American
6. First name begins with A - M
7. Known for the Arts
8. Not known for the Performing Arts
9. Known for Writing
10. Known for Fiction
11. Not known for Science Fiction
12. Died before 2000
13. Known for Short Stories

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/243 "2025-06-29T14:49:10Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you record “Sixteen Tons”?
> 2. Were you the manager of the Washington Senators when they became the Texas Rangers?
> 3. Did you have a sidekick named Al Borland on your show(-within-a-show)?

#1. I am not Tennessee Ernie Ford.  
#2. Take a DQ.;  
#3. I am not Tim Taylor.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/244 "2025-06-29T14:50:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Is the main square in Oberlin, Ohio named after you, a prominent abolitionist?  
> Did your character rant in _It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World_ about America’s obsession with bosoms?  
> Did Fitzgerald originally consider including your name in the title of what became _The Great Gatsby_?

1. I am not Harriet Tubman (??)
2. I am not Spencer Tracy (??)
3. I am not Tom Buchanan (??)

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/245 "2025-06-29T15:13:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > [@SunUp](#):
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> > 1. Did you record “Sixteen Tons”?
> > 2. Were you the manager of the Washington Senators when they became the Texas Rangers?
> > 3. Did you have a sidekick named Al Borland on your show(-within-a-show)?
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> #1. I am not Tennessee Ernie Ford.  
> #2. Take a DQ.;  
> #3. I am not Tim Taylor.

Correct, Ted Williams, and correct.

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/246 "2025-06-29T18:53:44Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a 70s rocker who rather not work, instead doing this activity?
2. Are you the first general manager of the Dallas Cowboys?
3. Did you write _War and Peace_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/247 "2025-06-29T18:55:26Z")

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1. I am not Leo Tolstoy.  
Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/248 "2025-06-29T18:58:50Z")

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Todd Rundgren (“Bang on the Drum All Day”)  
Tex Schram  
Correct

DQs:

Died before 1950?  
Was published in periodicals before books?  
Born in the South(eastern) US?

1 DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/249 "2025-06-29T19:01:56Z")

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DQs:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Last name begins with T
4. Dead
5. American
6. First name begins with A - M
7. Known for the Arts
8. Not known for the Performing Arts
9. Known for Writing
10. Known for Fiction
11. Not known for Science Fiction
12. Died before 2000
13. Known for Short Stories, but did write a few novels
14. Died after 1950
15. Often published in periodicals before books, though not always
16. Not born in the Southern U.S.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/250 "2025-06-29T21:02:01Z")

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DQ: Known for genre fiction (romance, detective, western, horror, e.g.)?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/251 "2025-06-30T02:33:11Z")

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Previous IQs:

Is the main square in Oberlin, Ohio named after you, a prominent abolitionist? - Not Harriet Tubman, but [Lewis Tappan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Tappan)  
Did your character rant in _It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World_ about America’s obsession with bosoms? - Not Spencer Tracy (although he’s in the movie), [but Terry-Thomas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hln19l9RtWg)  
Did Fitzgerald originally consider including your name in the title of what became _The Great Gatsby_? - Not Tom Buchanan (although he is a character); a working title for the book was instead [_Trimalchio in West Egg_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimalchio)

DQs:

Won a top writing award?  
Greatest fame before 1970?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/252 "2025-06-30T12:28:04Z")

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DQs:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Last name begins with T
4. Dead
5. American
6. First name begins with A - M
7. Known for the Arts
8. Not known for the Performing Arts
9. Known for Writing
10. Known for Fiction
11. Not known for Science Fiction
12. Died before 2000
13. Known for Short Stories, but did write a few novels
14. Died after 1950
15. Often published in periodicals before books, though not always
16. Not born in the Southern U.S.
17. Not generally known for genre fiction, but did write a couple of fantasy children’s books
18. Did not win a top writing award, though one is named after him.
19. Greatest fame before 1970

Since there are outstanding DQs that will put us over 20, no more IQs please. Ask all remaining DQs by 8pm EDT Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/253 "2025-07-02T01:16:08Z")

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Well, we’re still at 19, so let’s extend that deadline until 8pm EDT Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/254 "2025-07-02T03:00:17Z")

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Nobel, Pulitzer, Caldecott, Newbury… I got nothin’.

I yield my earned DQ to whoever would like to ask it.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/255 "2025-07-02T04:28:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I yield my earned DQ to whoever would like to ask it

My two, as well.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/256 "2025-07-02T04:40:07Z")

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I’ll use my last DQ: Are you James Thurber?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/257 "2025-07-02T14:03:39Z")

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My World and Welcome To It!  
Yes, I am author and cartoonsit

# James Thurber!

[![](https://images.cartoonstock.com/lowres_800/monsters-haunted_houses-intimidates-house-home-social-issues-CC19029_low.jpg) ](https://images.cartoonstock.com/lowres_800/monsters-haunted_houses-intimidates-house-home-social-issues-CC19029_low.jpg)

The Thurber Award is the most prestigious award for comedy writing.

**Bravo, knoodler!**

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/258 "2025-07-02T16:15:14Z")

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I watched _The Secret Life of Walter Mitty_ a few nights ago and the name just popped into my head. I knew him from short stories but not from “children’s fantasy books.” Ignorance fought!

Let’s go with:

**S**

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/259 "2025-07-02T16:40:00Z")

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Great get, **knoodler**!

On to S.

1. Were you played by Emile Hirsch in a Wachowski’s film?
2. Are you the screenwriter of _Sicario_?
3. Did you botch the attack on the north end of Missionary Ridge?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/260 "2025-07-02T17:05:02Z")

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You might want to start the July thread now.

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