# Botticelli, June 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 2, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118 "2025-06-02T19:30:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/21 "2025-06-04T23:31:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@SunUp](#):
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> > 1. Did you command the amphibious forces of the US Pacific Fleet during World War II?
> > 2. Were you a bushranger played in a modern-day update by Yahoo Serious?
> > 3. Did you design several planes at Lockheed’s famous “Skunk Works”?
> 
> Not Gen. Krueger, dunno and dunno.

Krueger was a good guess, and he did command amphibious troops in SWPA, so I’ll give it to you, but I was looking for Adm. Richmond Kelly Turner.  
Ned Kelly.  
Kelly Johnson.

Kelly x3!

DQ:

Known for politics/military?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/22 "2025-06-04T23:37:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did you create Joey, Gina, and Ruff?
> > 2. Do heavy metal fans consider you “god”?
> > 3. Did you remark to the Minister of Magic that Hogwarts’ headmaster “has style”?
> 
> Dunno x3.

1. Hank Ketcham (Dennis the Menace)
2. Lemmy Kilmeister (of Motörhead)
3. Kingsley Shacklebolt (referring to Dumbledore’s escape)

3 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/23 "2025-06-05T02:07:51Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> …  
>   
> IQ1: Am I waiting impatiently for you to write the third Christopher Snow book?  
> IQ2: Did you create Billy, Jeffy and Thel?  
> IQ3: Did you play a civil engineer, an island police chief and the father of twins?

Dunno, not Keane, and not Kevin Kline.

K.

1. real
2. male
3. first name begins with K
4. living
5. not known for the arts
6. born before 1970
7. American
8. not known for science
9. not born before 1950
10. known for politics/military

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/24 "2025-06-05T02:47:48Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
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> > IQ1: Am I waiting impatiently for you to write the third Christopher Snow book?  
> > IQ2: Did you create Billy, Jeffy and Thel?  
> > IQ3: Did you play a civil engineer, an island police chief and the father of twins?
> 
> Dunno, not Keane, and not Kevin Kline.

Dean Koontz  
correct  
Brian Keith (_Family Affair_, _The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming!_ and The Parent Trap\*)

DQ: Known specifically for military?  
One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/25 "2025-06-05T02:53:55Z")

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DQs:

Last name begins A - M?  
Still active in field/career?

1 DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/26 "2025-06-05T03:33:13Z")

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IQs:

1. Early in your career as an actress, did you portray a tech version of Frankenstein’s monster or d’jinn (genie)?
2. Did Bill Watterson include you as a primary influence for his creation “Calvin and Hobbes”?
3. Are you one of a set of twin astronauts not to enter politics?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/27 "2025-06-05T15:49:14Z")

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IQs:

1. Do you have a Kollege of Musical Knowledge?
2. Did you write _On First Looking Into Chapman’s Home_?
3. Were you a founder of the Vienna Secession art movement?

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/28 "2025-06-05T16:28:33Z")

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DQ: Did you ever hold elected office?

1. Are you the great-great-great-great grandfather of Alex Haley?
2. Are you a Holocaust denier who ran for President in 2020?
3. Were you a Russian aristocrat who became a revolutionary and wrote _Mutual Aid_ as a rebuttal to the doctrines of Social Darwinism?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/29 "2025-06-06T01:53:51Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Early in your career as an actress, did you portray a tech version of Frankenstein’s monster or d’jinn (genie)?
> 2. Did Bill Watterson include you as a primary influence for his creation “Calvin and Hobbes”?
> 3. Are you one of a set of twin astronauts not to enter politics?

Not Carol Kane, not Krazy Kat and not non-U.S. Sen. Kelly.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Do you have a Kollege of Musical Knowledge?
> 2. Did you write _On First Looking Into Chapman’s Home_?
> 3. Were you a founder of the Vienna Secession art movement?

Not Krusty the Klown, not Kitchener and not Klimt.

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> …
> 
> 1. Are you the great-great-great-great grandfather of Alex Haley?
> 2. Are you a Holocaust denier who ran for President in 2020?
> 3. Were you a Russian aristocrat who became a revolutionary and wrote _Mutual Aid_ as a rebuttal to the doctrines of Social Darwinism?

Not Kunta Kinte, not Kanye West and not Kelbrun.

K.

1. real
2. male
3. first name begins with K
4. living
5. not known for the arts
6. born before 1970
7. American
8. not known for science
9. not born before 1950
10. known for politics/military
11. not known specifically for military
12. last name doesn’t begin A - M
13. kinda sorta still active in field/career
14. never held elected office

This should put us over 20 DQs, so no more IQs, please.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/30 "2025-06-06T05:00:15Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Early in your career as an actress, did you portray a tech version of Frankenstein’s monster or d’jinn (genie)?
> > 2. Did Bill Watterson include you as a primary influence for his creation “Calvin and Hobbes”?
> > 3. Are you one of a set of twin astronauts not to enter politics?
> 
> Not Carol Kane, not Krazy Kat and not non-U.S. Sen. Kelly.

1. Kelly Brock (_Weird Science_)
2. Walt Kelly (_Pogo_)
3. Correct, Scott Kelly

Kelly x3!

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/31 "2025-06-06T05:07:04Z")

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DQs:

1. Caucasian?
2. First name begins with Ka - Kl?

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/32 "2025-06-06T05:36:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> > 1. Are you the great-great-great-great grandfather of Alex Haley?
> > 2. Are you a Holocaust denier who ran for President in 2020?
> > 3. Were you a Russian aristocrat who became a revolutionary and wrote _Mutual Aid_ as a rebuttal to the doctrines of Social Darwinism?
> 
> Not Kunta Kinte, not Kanye West and not Kelbrun.

First 2 are correct, #3 was Prince Peter Kropotkin.

DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/33 "2025-06-06T05:39:49Z")

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per Wikipedia:

[Bill Watterson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Watterson) of _[Calvin and Hobbes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_and_Hobbes)_ fame named _Krazy Kat_ among his three major influences (along with _[Peanuts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanuts)_ and \*[Pogo]

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/34 "2025-06-06T21:35:22Z")

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The documentary _Dear Mr. Watterson_ mentions _Pogo_ as being a big influence on Watterson’s work.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/35 "2025-06-06T21:38:53Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> [Bill Watterson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Watterson) of _[Calvin and Hobbes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_and_Hobbes)_ fame named _Krazy Kat_ among his three major influences (along with _[Peanuts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanuts)_ and \*[Pogo]

So those are both valid answers, then?

> [@knoodler](#):
>
> The documentary _Dear Mr. Watterson_ mentions _Pogo_ as being a big influence on Watterson’s work.

Dis it say “ **P** ogo” or “Walt **K** elly”?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/36 "2025-06-06T21:49:45Z")

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It could’ve been either, I’m not clear on specifics.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/37 "2025-06-06T22:59:21Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Do you have a Kollege of Musical Knowledge?
> > 2. Did you write _On First Looking Into Chapman’s Home_?
> > 3. Were you a founder of the Vienna Secession art movement?
> 
> Not Krusty the Klown, not Kitchener and not Klimt.

1 was Kay Kyser.  
2 was John Keats.  
3 is correct.

DQs:

1. Known from the federal government?
2. Democrat?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/38 "2025-06-07T02:52:08Z")

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Thanks, **Thing.Fish**. I _thought_ I remembered Krazy Kat as being one of Watterson’s inspirations, so I will not grant a DQ for that question.

K.

1. real
2. male
3. first name begins with K
4. living
5. not known for the arts
6. born before 1970
7. American
8. not known for science
9. not born before 1950
10. known for politics/military
11. not known specifically for military
12. last name doesn’t begin A - M
13. kinda sorta still active in field/career
14. never held elected office
15. Caucasian
16. first name begins with Ka - Kl
17. mostly known from the federal government
18. not a Democrat

Please ask all remaining earned IQs by noon EST Sunday.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/39 "2025-06-09T02:08:47Z")

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OK, please ask all earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by 7pm EST tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/40 "2025-06-09T02:57:04Z")

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I yield my “Firstname Lastname” DQ to anyone who wants to use it.

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