# Botticelli, June 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 2, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118 "2025-06-02T19:30:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/101 "2025-06-12T21:46:36Z")

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Good job **SCA**! I kept circling around “Barbara Cortland”, and was so close!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/102 "2025-06-13T01:07:15Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> I am **Barbara Hambly!**
> 
> **Those Who Hunt the Night** is my favorite vampire book bar none.

The [cover](https://bookshopapocalypse.com/cdn/shop/products/TIMEOFTHEDARK-1copy.jpg?v=1733422792) of _The Time of the Dark_ was what got my attention.

[_New Amsterdam_](https://www.amazon.com/New-Amsterdam-Elizabeth-Bear/dp/1596061065), by Elizabeth Bear, is my favourite vampire book. The main characters are a forensic sorceress and an ancient vampire who, to while away the daytime hours (he doesn’t sleep, and he can’t go out unless there’s heavy cloud cover to protect him from sunlight) has learnt to knit…

I am **P**.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/103 "2025-06-13T02:03:58Z")

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_Fevre Dream_ is by no means your typical Martin book; hope you’ll give it a try someday.

Off we go with P.

IQs:

Did you surrender Vicksburg on July 4, 1863?  
Did you fly a flag emblazoned, “DONT GIVE UP THE SHIP”?  
Were you a GOP senator from Florida in the Eighties?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/104 "2025-06-13T02:07:15Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you surrender Vicksburg on July 4, 1863?  
> Did you fly a flag emblazoned, “DONT GIVE UP THE SHIP”?  
> Were you a GOP senator from Florida in the Eighties?

DQ  
Not Oliver Hazard Perry  
DQ

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/105 "2025-06-13T02:20:29Z")

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Good call on Barbara Hambly! I’ve seen the name on book covers before, but I wouldn’t have guessed it in a million years.

On to P.

IQs:

1. Did you invent Coca-Cola?
2. Did Loni Anderson play you in _Stroker Ace_?
3. Did you inherit command of Fort Donelson from General John Floyd, and pass it along to General Simon Buckner?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/106 "2025-06-13T02:36:38Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you surrender Vicksburg on July 4, 1863? - Gen. John Pemberton  
Did you fly a flag emblazoned, “DONT GIVE UP THE SHIP”? - Yes, Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, in the Battle of Lake Erie  
Were you a GOP senator from Florida in the Eighties? - Paula Hawkins

DQs:

Male?  
Real?

IQs:

Were you First Speaker of the Second Foundation?  
Are you often a panelist on the NPR quiz show _Wait Wait… Don’t Tell Me_?  
A talented silversmith, are you usually better-remembered for something else?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/107 "2025-06-13T04:12:21Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you considered the greatest NASCAR driver of all time?
2. Are you the second greatest driver?
3. Did you ask Santa for a BB gun for Christmas?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/108 "2025-06-13T11:15:58Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you invent Coca-Cola?
> 2. Did Loni Anderson play you in _Stroker Ace_?
> 3. Did you inherit command of Fort Donelson from General John Floyd, and pass it along to General Simon Buckner?

Three DQs

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you First Speaker of the Second Foundation?  
> Are you often a panelist on the NPR quiz show _Wait Wait… Don’t Tell Me_?  
> A talented silversmith, are you usually better-remembered for something else?

DQ  
DQ  
Not Paul Revere

> [@knoodler](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you considered the greatest NASCAR driver of all time?
> 2. Are you the second greatest driver?
> 3. Did you ask Santa for a BB gun for Christmas?

Three DQs

**P**.  
1. Male  
2. Fictional

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/109 "2025-06-13T12:56:00Z")

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IQs:

1. Once more with feeling: Are you me?
2. Were you one of the members of The Firesign Theatre?
3. Were you a different member of The Firesign Theatre?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/110 "2025-06-13T15:07:05Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Once more with feeling: Are you me?
> 2. Were you one of the members of The Firesign Theatre?
> 3. Were you a different member of The Firesign Theatre?

Neither Prof Pepperwinkle nor Phil Tead  
DQ  
DQ

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/111 "2025-06-13T15:28:40Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> > [@SunUp](#):
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> > 1. Did you invent Coca-Cola?
> > 2. Did Loni Anderson play you in _Stroker Ace_?
> > 3. Did you inherit command of Fort Donelson from General John Floyd, and pass it along to General Simon Buckner?
> 
> Three DQs

John Pemberton, but a different John Pemberton than the Confederate general (this one rose to the rank of Lt. Colonel, and was a Georgia native).  
Pembrook Feeny.  
Gideon Pillow.

DQs:

First name starts with P?  
From a work of prose fiction?  
American creator?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/112 "2025-06-13T17:57:37Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you considered the greatest NASCAR driver of all time?
> > 2. Are you the second greatest driver?
> > 3. Did you ask Santa for a BB gun for Christmas?
> 
> Three DQs

1. Richard Petty
2. Donald Pearson
3. Ralphie Parker (_A Christmas Story_: “You’ll shoot your eye out!”)

DQ: Created before 1950?

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/113 "2025-06-13T18:04:44Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a preternaturally upbeat young girl who becomes crippled?
2. Are you a tattooed mathlete played by Jennifer Aniston?
3. Did you publish the first modern-day vampire story?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/114 "2025-06-13T20:44:07Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you First Speaker of the Second Foundation? - Preem Palver, in Asimov’s _Foundation_ series  
Are you often a panelist on the NPR quiz show _Wait Wait… Don’t Tell Me_? - Paula Poundstone  
A talented silversmith, are you usually better-remembered for something else? - Yes, Paul Revere

DQs:

American character?  
Considered a “good guy”?

IQs:

Did Hugh Jackman, who looks nothing like you, play you in a recent movie?  
Did you make a bet about a (for then) rapid circumnavigation of the planet?  
Did you accompany that person?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/115 "2025-06-13T22:16:26Z")

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**P**.

1. Male  
2. Fictional  
3. Only known name starts with P  
4. Not from a work of prose fiction  
5. American creator  
6. Not created before 1950  
7. American character  
8. Considered a “good guy”

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/116 "2025-06-13T22:23:52Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> 1. Are you a preternaturally upbeat young girl who becomes crippled?
> 2. Are you a tattooed mathlete played by Jennifer Aniston?
> 3. Did you publish the first modern-day vampire story?

Not Pollyanna  
DQ  
_Varney the Vampire_, I think, but no idea who wrote it. DQ

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did Hugh Jackman, who looks nothing like you, play you in a recent movie?  
> Did you make a bet about a (for then) rapid circumnavigation of the planet?  
> Did you accompany that person?

Not Dolly Parton  
Not Phileas Fogg  
Not Passepartout  
(Have you read Farmer’s version of that story?)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/117 "2025-06-14T00:03:13Z")

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No, I haven’t.

Previous IQs:

Did Hugh Jackman, who looks nothing like you, play you in a recent movie? - Not Dolly Parton, but P.T. Barnum, in [_The Greatest Showman_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman#/media/File:The_Greatest_Showman_poster.png)  
Did you make a bet about a (for then) rapid circumnavigation of the planet? - Yes, Phileas Fogg  
Did you accompany that person? - Yes, Passepartout

DQ:

First appeared in a movie?

IQs:

Were you known for your Fifties sfx extravaganzas?  
Were you Arthur the Aardvark’s pet dog?  
Were you the title character of a Sinatra movie?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/118 "2025-06-14T02:38:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you known for your Fifties sfx extravaganzas?  
> Were you Arthur the Aardvark’s pet dog?  
> Were you the title character of a Sinatra movie?

Not George Pal  
Not Pal  
Not … My Pal Joey?

**P**.

1. Male  
2. Fictional  
3. Only known name starts with P  
4. Not from a work of prose fiction  
5. American creator  
6. Not created before 1950  
7. American character  
8. Considered a “good guy”  
9. Did not first appear in a movie

[_The Other Log of Phileas Fogg_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Other_Log_of_Phileas_Fogg), by Philip Jose Farmer. I recommend it. 🙂

And my mind insists on reading your first IQ as “Fifties sex extravaganzas”…

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/119 "2025-06-14T05:46:12Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > 1. Are you a preternaturally upbeat young girl who becomes crippled?
> > 2. Are you a tattooed mathlete played by Jennifer Aniston?
> > 3. Did you publish the first modern-day vampire story?
> 
> Not Pollyanna  
> DQ  
> _Varney the Vampire_, I think, but no idea who wrote it. DQ

Correct  
Polly Prince (_Along Came Polly_)  
Dr. John Polidori (Lord Byron’s personal physician, he copied his employer’s story and published it as “The Vampyre” under his name; a few years later Bram Stoker wrote his epic novel and Polidori’s book was forgotten.)

DQs:

First appear on TV?  
Name begins Pa-Pl?

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2025/1019118/120 "2025-06-14T13:58:53Z")

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**P**.

1. Male  
2. Fictional  
3. Only known name starts with P  
4. Not from a work of prose fiction  
5. American creator  
6. Not created before 1950  
7. American character  
8. Considered a “good guy”  
9. Did not first appear in a movie  
10. First appeared on TV  
11. Name begins Pa-Pl

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