# Botticelli:  Late June, 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 25, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209 "2012-06-25T03:03:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/61 "2012-06-27T05:01:30Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Are you an Obama official who also served in the Clinton Administration?

I’m not Leon Panetta.

> [@Spoons](#):
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> Just to clarify, it’s the character Jim Phelps (who was played by Peter Graves), and Robert Peel–though his police were sometimes known as “Peelers.” Still, I know what you meant, so no DQs for me. Correct, by the way, on Papa John Phillips–no problem there.

Ack - bitten in the ass by hubris! :smack: Thanks for the wiggle room.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/62 "2012-06-27T05:04:32Z")

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IQ1: Did you coin the phrase, “For now we see through a glass, darkly”?

IQ2: Did you play the overly-religious mother in a 1976 horror film?

IQ3: Did you talk about your generation?

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**Author:** ![denquixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@denquixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/denquixote)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/63 "2012-06-27T05:20:16Z")

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> [@denquixote](#):
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> IQ1: Did you succeed Rip Engel as a coach?  
> IQ2: Were you the original singer on “Sea of Love?”  
> IQ3: Did your name grace one of the historic theaters in Los Angeles?

IQ2: Phil Phillips  
IQ3: Alexander Pantages

DQ1: Are you living?  
DQ2: Are you American?

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**Author:** ![denquixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@denquixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/denquixote)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/64 "2012-06-27T05:29:11Z")

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IQ1: Were you married to Ted Hughes?  
IQ2: Did you write several short stories about the Patimkins (including Ron who graduated from Ohio State U.)  
IQ3: Were you the subject of “Fear Strikes Out?”

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/65 "2012-06-27T05:34:41Z")

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Summary for P:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I’m not known for contributions to the arts.
4. My last name starts with P.
5. I’m not American.
6. I’m dead.

> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Did you coin the phrase, “For now we see through a glass, darkly”?
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> IQ2: Did you play the overly-religious mother in a 1976 horror film?
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> IQ3: Did you talk about your generation?

I’m not Pete Townsend. Take DQs for 1 and 2.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/66 "2012-06-27T05:47:54Z")

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> [@denquixote](#):
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> IQ1: Were you married to Ted Hughes?  
> IQ2: Did you write several short stories about the Patimkins (including Ron who graduated from Ohio State U.)  
> IQ3: Were you the subject of “Fear Strikes Out?”

I’m not Jimmy Piersall - take two more DQs for your first two questions.

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**Author:** ![denquixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@denquixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/denquixote)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/67 "2012-06-27T06:24:19Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’m not Jimmy Piersall - take two more DQs for your first two questions.

IQ1: Sylvia Plath  
IQ2: Philip Roth wrote several short stories about the Patimkin family; they were  
made into the movie “Goodbye Columbus.”

DQ1: Were you European?  
DQ2: Were you connected to politics?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/68 "2012-06-27T06:33:32Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’m not Pete Townsend. Take DQs for 1 and 2.

IQ1 was looking for St. Paul–see the Bible at 1 Corinthians, chapter 13, verse 12 (see, I _could_ remember something from my Sunday School classes!).

IQ2 was looking for Piper Laurie, who played Carrie’s mother in the film, _Carrie_.

I’ll reserve my two DQs or a bit.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/69 "2012-06-27T06:41:05Z")

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Missed the editing window: “I’ll reserve my two DQs _for_ a bit.”

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/70 "2012-06-27T06:58:15Z")

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IQ: Did you conquer a Latin American empire?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/71 "2012-06-27T07:38:32Z")

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IQ: Do even you not want to be you?

[quote=“Enginerd, post:50, topic:626209”]

Take a DQ for this.

You’re not Peter Criss

DQ: Are you involved in the sciences?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/72 "2012-06-27T11:46:37Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> 1. Is this Bill Parcells? I remember some questions about eligibility and whether he was really retired, but I’m not sure they qualify as “a short five years.” Take a DQ if I’m wrong.
> 2. I’m not Rand Paul or Paul Ryan.
> 3. I’m not Arnold Palmer.

1- Kirby Puckett, MN Twins player  
2- I was thinking Tim Pawlenty, but will take your guesses as mt question was too vague.

DQ1: Did you die prior to 01/01/1960?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/73 "2012-06-27T12:18:04Z")

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Summary for P:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I’m not known for contributions to the arts.
4. My last name starts with P.
5. I’m not American.
6. I’m dead.
7. I’m not European.
8. I was connected to politics.
9. I’m not known as a scientist.
10. I died after January 1, 1960.

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you conquer a Latin American empire?

I’m not Francisco Pizarro.

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/74 "2012-06-27T13:57:29Z")

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IQ1. Are you responsible for the killing fields?

IQ2. Did Kaiser Bill send you a notorious telegram?

IQ3. Did you hold the Cosmos in the palm of your hand?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/75 "2012-06-27T17:10:16Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ2. Did Kaiser Bill send you a notorious telegram?
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> IQ3. Did you hold the Cosmos in the palm of your hand?

I don’t know either of these, but it doesn’t really matter because…

> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ1. Are you responsible for the killing fields?

Yes, I am Cambodian dictator **Pol Pot**. Congratulations, **Wargamer**!

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/76 "2012-06-27T18:15:45Z")

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When I saw politics and not European or American the first thing I thought of was Pol Pot. (Actually, the first thing I thought of was a chocolate chip cookie, because it was mid-morning snack time… but, I digress…)

The first of the other two were Paul Kruger, known as Oom Paul - or Uncle Paul, the President of Transvaal in the 1890s. Kaiser Wilhelm II sent him a congratulatory telegram after the Jameson Raid was quashed by Boer troops in 1896. Later on, he became the face of Boer resistance during the Boer War, and incidentally, the face on South Africa’s Krugerrand coin.

The second was Brazilian soccer star Pele, who took New York by storm in the mid-70s as a star striker for the Cosmos of the now defunct North American Soccer League.

Let me cogitate on a person, and I’ll get back with all of you.

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/77 "2012-06-27T18:33:41Z")

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**T** hasn’t been done in a few months, so let’s try this letter.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/78 "2012-06-27T18:57:58Z")

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IQ1: Does “To infinity and beyond!” ring a bell?  
IQ2: Were you one of the Purple People Eaters, leading the team to three failed Super Bowl runs?  
IQ3: Are you the main character of a famous Norweigan play?

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/79 "2012-06-27T19:18:06Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> IQ1: Does “To infinity and beyond!” ring a bell?  
> IQ2: Were you one of the Purple People Eaters, leading the team to three failed Super Bowl runs?  
> IQ3: Are you the main character of a famous Norweigan play?

IQ1 - I’m racking my brain, but I can’t think of a ‘T’ character in Toy Story, so a DQ.

IQ2 - Was Fran Tarkenton considered to be a PPE? I thought that nickname just applied to the Viking defense. If it’s not Tarkenton, then another DQ.

IQ3 - I don’t have to worry about racking my brain on this one since I have no idea about Norwegian theatre.

So, either 2 or 3 DQs depending on the Tarkenton answer.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/80 "2012-06-27T19:26:05Z")

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IQ1: Tim Allen, voice of Buzz Lightyear  
IQ2: Sir Francis is correct - yes, the PPE referred specifically to the defense, but the whole team was also referred to as Purple People Eaters (if you knew how many times I heard that stupid song growing up…)  
IQ3: Torvald Helmer, Nora’s husband in Ibsen’s _A Doll’s House_

DQ1: Are you male?  
DQ2: Are you alive?

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