# Botticelli:  Late June, 2012

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**Created:** [June 25, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209 "2012-06-25T03:03:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/141 "2012-07-02T05:32:44Z")

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Great job, **Elendil’s Heir**! I can honestly say that I have never heard of Alfred Thayer Mahan, so I guess I have yet more reading to do this summer. 🙂 Looking forward to the next round!

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/142 "2012-07-02T11:37:31Z")

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Ditto!

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/143 "2012-07-02T13:42:02Z")

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It was actually my question about Paul Kruger from the previous game that got me started down the trail that lead to Mahan, as Kaiser Wilhelm (Kaiser Bill in the IQ) was heavily influenced by Mahan, which lead to his desire for a High Seas Fleet to rival the British and that arms race can be followed directly to Britain’s involvement in World War One.

If you’re interested, then I cannot recommend highly enough Robert Massie’s _Dreadnaught: Britain, Germany, and the Coming of the Great War_ as a look into that time. So, arguably, the world we live in today can be traced back (indirectly, admittedly) to Mahan’s book.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-late-june-2012/626209/144 "2012-07-03T01:12:49Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> …If you’re interested, then I cannot recommend highly enough Robert Massie’s _Dreadnaught: Britain, Germany, and the Coming of the Great War_ as a look into that time. So, arguably, the world we live in today can be traced back (indirectly, admittedly) to Mahan’s book.

I’ve always meant to read that. You’re not the first to praise it to me.

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