# Botticelli -- Mar 2021

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 1, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991 "2021-03-01T01:27:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/181 "2021-03-21T02:23:05Z")

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DQs:

1. Scottish?
2. Prose?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/182 "2021-03-21T02:42:59Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:178, topic:933991”]  
**DQs:**

1. Male
2. Last name starts with N
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Died after 1900
6. Known for the Arts
7. Real
8. Died before 1990
9. European
10. Not known for the Performing Arts
11. Did not win a top award in his field, though he did win awards
12. Known primarily as a writer
13. From the British Isles
14. Greatest fame before 1939
15. Not famous for genre works
16. Wrote for children, but not best known for that
17. Knighted
18. Not best known for prose
19. Not Scottish

**kitap** , ask another DQ, since EH had just asked your second one.

With the remaining outstanding IQs, we will be over 20. No more new IQs please.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/183 "2021-03-21T02:44:30Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Have you played a supervillain’s henchman, a villainous teddy bear, and a man forced to squeal like a pig?  
> IQ2: Are you the title character of a Dickens novel that was adapted into an 8 1/2 hour play?  
> IQ3: Was a type of toast named after you?

#1. I am not Ned Beatty.  
#2. I am not Nicholas Nickleby (??)  
#3. I am not Dame Nelba.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did Daniel Day-Lewis once play you?  
> Did Buzz Lightyear briefly go by this name?  
> Did you begin your Sixties TV appearances in a yellow dress but almost always wear red after that?

1. I am not Natty Bumppo (??)  
Take 2 DQs for the others.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/184 "2021-03-21T03:37:28Z")

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DQ:

Last name begins with Na - Ne?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/185 "2021-03-21T05:06:17Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did Daniel Day-Lewis once play you? - Yes, Natty Bumppo (renamed the much-less-silly Nathaniel Poe for the movie version of _The Last of the Mohicans_)  
Did Buzz Lightyear briefly go by this name? - Mrs. Nesbitt, for the little girl’s tea party  
Did you begin your Sixties TV appearances in a yellow dress but almost always wear red after that? - Nichelle Nichols as Lt. Uhura on _Star Trek_

Two DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/186 "2021-03-21T07:16:29Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > > IQ1: Have you played a supervillain’s henchman, a villainous teddy bear, and a man forced to squeal like a pig?  
> > > IQ2: Are you the title character of a Dickens novel that was adapted into an 8 1/2 hour play?  
> > > IQ3: Was a type of toast named after you?
> 
> #1. I am not Ned Beatty.  
> #2. I am not Nicholas Nickleby (??)  
> #3. I am not Dame Nelba.

Sweep, or close enough. #3 was Dame Nellie Melba, but close enough.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/187 "2021-03-21T15:52:55Z")

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**DQs:**

1. Male
2. Last name starts with N
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Died after 1900
6. Known for the Arts
7. Real
8. Died before 1990
9. European
10. Not known for the Performing Arts
11. Did not win a top award in his field, though he did win awards
12. Known primarily as a writer
13. From the British Isles
14. Greatest fame before 1939
15. Not famous for genre works
16. Wrote for children, but not best known for that
17. Knighted
18. Not best known for prose
19. Not Scottish
20. Last name does not begin with Na-Ne

Please ask all remaining DQs by Noon EDT tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/188 "2021-03-21T19:31:18Z")

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DQs:

English?  
Died wealthy or at least well-off?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/189 "2021-03-21T19:57:21Z")

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**DQs:**

1. Male
2. Last name starts with N
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Died after 1900
6. Known for the Arts
7. Real
8. Died before 1990
9. European
10. Not known for the Performing Arts
11. Did not win a top award in his field, though he did win awards
12. Known primarily as a writer
13. From the British Isles
14. Greatest fame before 1939
15. Not famous for genre works
16. Wrote for children, but not best known for that
17. Knighted (CBE)
18. Not best known for prose
19. Not Scottish
20. Last name does not begin with Na-Ne
21. English
22. Died wealthy or at least comfortably well-off

I think that’s all the DQs outstanding. If not, please ask them by midnight EDT today, and please have any final guesses by noon EDT tomorrow. Thank you very much.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/190 "2021-03-21T20:41:38Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Knighted (CBE)

Nitpick: CBE isn’t a knighthood.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/191 "2021-03-21T22:53:29Z")

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**DQs:**

1. Male
2. Last name starts with N
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Died after 1900
6. Known for the Arts
7. Real
8. Died before 1990
9. European
10. Not known for the Performing Arts
11. Did not win a top award in his field, though he did win awards
12. Known primarily as a writer
13. From the British Isles
14. Greatest fame before 1939
15. Not famous for genre works
16. Wrote for children, but not best known for that
17. Awarded a CBE
18. Not best known for prose
19. Not Scottish
20. Last name does not begin with Na-Ne
21. English
22. Died wealthy or at least comfortably well-off

Corrected. Thanks, SCA!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/192 "2021-03-22T16:33:18Z")

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I’m extending the final DQ guesses to 6pm EDT today.

**DQs:**

1. Male
2. Last name starts with N
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Died after 1900
6. Known for the Arts
7. Real
8. Died before 1990
9. European
10. Not known for the Performing Arts
11. Did not win a top award in his field, though he did win awards
12. Known primarily as a writer
13. From the British Isles
14. Greatest fame before 1939
15. Not famous for genre works
16. Wrote for children, but not best known for that
17. Knighted (CBE)
18. Not best known for prose
19. Not Scottish
20. Last name does not begin with Na-Ne
21. English
22. Died wealthy or at least comfortably well-off
23. Poet

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/193 "2021-03-22T18:31:46Z")

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Hmmm. Can’t think of anyone who fits all these clues (especially #2).

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/194 "2021-03-22T22:02:49Z")

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I’m lost. Poetry is not at all a strong point. Or plays if he was a playwright.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/195 "2021-03-22T22:04:38Z")

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_The wind was a torrent of darkness among the gusty trees.  
The moon was a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas.  
The road was a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor,  
And the highwayman came riding—  
Riding—riding—  
The highwayman came riding, up to the old inn-door._

I am **[Sir Alfred Noyes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Noyes)**, poet and teacher best known for such gems as _[The Highwayman](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43187/the-highwayman)_, _[The Barrel Organ](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47543/the-barrel-organ)_ and the popular children’s poem, _[Daddy Fell Into The Pond](https://allpoetry.com/Daddy-Fell-into-the-Pond)_.

[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Portrait_of_Alfred_Noyes.jpg/220px-Portrait_of_Alfred_Noyes.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Portrait_of_Alfred_Noyes.jpg/220px-Portrait_of_Alfred_Noyes.jpg)

Looking at his bio on Wikipedia, I learned that his American 2nd wife had him visit the USA, which he liked so much he divided his time between England (or Wales) and the U.S. He was invited to teach at Princeton, where one of his students was F. Scott Fitzgerald.

Next up: I am **W.**

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/196 "2021-03-22T23:41:24Z")

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I’ve heard of him, but I have to admit I always thought he was American.

1. Are you the mother of Zoe, Hammie and Wren?
2. Did you win the Best Actor Oscar for 1931’s **The Champ**?
3. Are you an evil wizard who is also a wedding planner on **Galavant**?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/197 "2021-03-22T23:55:05Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
>
> - Are you the mother of Zoe, Hammie and Wren?
> - Did you win the Best Actor Oscar for 1931’s **The Champ**?
> - Are you an evil wizard who is also a wedding planner on **Galavant**?

1. I am not Wanda MacPherson.
2. I am not Wallace Beery.
3. I forget. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/198 "2021-03-23T00:58:20Z")

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Alfred (not Sir Alfred) Noyes? Never heard of him.

IQ1: Were you a university president and a governor of New Jersey?  
IQ2: Were you a president and a chief justice?  
IQ3: Are you the Earl of Strathearn?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/199 "2021-03-23T01:37:00Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you a university president and a governor of New Jersey?  
> IQ2: Were you a president and a chief justice?  
> IQ3: Are you the Earl of Strathearn?

1. I am not Woodrow Wilson.
2. I am not William Howard Taft.
3. I am not Prince William (??)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-mar-2021/933991/200 "2021-03-23T01:53:12Z")

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