# Botticelli, March 2012. Game 2: Z

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 21, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440 "2012-03-21T20:41:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/41 "2012-03-25T09:42:43Z")

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> Elendil’s Heir   
> IQs:
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> Were you wont to draw whips in your private diary?  
> Were you White House counsel in 1989?  
> Were you the only governor of your state to be recalled in the past 50 years?

I don’t know the first two and I am not George Wallace.

Take two for starters.

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> Spoons IQs:
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> Were you an American labor leader who merged the AFL and CIO?
> 
> Are you an ex-NFLer who enjoys needlepoint?
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> Were you the father of an Austrian musical family?

I am not George Meany, Rosey Greer or G. Von Trapp.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/42 "2012-03-25T11:37:51Z")

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Well done, Johnny Q. 🙂

(I’m happy that I asked if Z was human… 🆒)

IQ1: Are you a private detective who is also a great dancer?

IQ2: Did you lose a World Chess Championship match to Steinitz?

IQ3: Were you the first person to orbit the Earth?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/43 "2012-03-25T16:12:44Z")

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Well done, indeed, **Johnny Q**!

Just to clear up -

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> IQ2: Are you the title character of a recent book by Dave Eggers?
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> IQ3: Did you demonstrate why the world’s fastest runner isn’t as fast as we think?

The answers are **Zeitoun** and **Zeno** - **Enginerd** was referring to Zeno’s general love of paradox, I was obliquely referring to the paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise.

So, G -

IQ1: Are you a famously eccentric Canadian pianist?

IQ2: Are you a jazz musician who starred in ‘Round Midnight’?

IQ3: Are you a French opera composer?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/44 "2012-03-25T19:42:02Z")

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> glee   
> IQ1: Are you a private detective who is also a great dancer?
> 
> IQ2: Did you lose a World Chess Championship match to Steinitz?
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> IQ3: Were you the first person to orbit the Earth?

Unsure on the first two, but I am not Yuri Gagarin.

Take two.

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> Le Ministre de l’au-delà
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> So, G -
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> IQ1: Are you a famously eccentric Canadian pianist?
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> IQ2: Are you a jazz musician who starred in ‘Round Midnight’?
> 
> IQ3: Are you a French opera composer?

I am not Glenn Gould or Dexter Gordon.

The French opera composer eludes me, but I’ll take a wild stab and say Gounod. Chances are good you’ve scored a DQ here.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/45 "2012-03-25T21:48:49Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a private detective who is also a great dancer?
> 
> IQ2: Did you lose a World Chess Championship match to Steinitz?

**Archie Goodwin** works for Nero Wolfe and dances regularly with Lily Rowan at the flamingo club.

**Isidor Gunsberg** played Steinitz in 1890.  
He was one of the [Mephisto chess automaton](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephisto_%28Automaton%29) operators!

DQ1: Are you male?

DQ2: Are you fictional?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/46 "2012-03-25T22:40:46Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. Real

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/47 "2012-03-26T00:44:14Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you wont to draw whips in your private diary?  
> Were you White House counsel in 1989?  
> Were you the only governor of your state to be recalled in the past 50 years?

William Gladstone, British Prime Minister, drew whips in his diary on the nights when he walked the London streets, trying to “reform” prostitutes. Historians still differ as to what form those “reforms” took.  
C. Boyden Gray was the first President Bush’s lawyer.  
George Wallace was never recalled. I was thinking of Gray Davis, ill-starred Governor of California.

DQs:

Last name starts with “G”?  
American?  
Now alive?

IQs:

Were you a noteworthy alien prostitute?  
Were you a mad fleet captain?  
Did Sherlock Holmes have your picture hanging in his rooms?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/48 "2012-03-26T07:34:20Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Lat name starts with G
4. Not American
5. Dead

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> Elendil’s Heir
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> IQs:
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> Were you a noteworthy alien prostitute?  
> Were you a mad fleet captain?  
> Did Sherlock Holmes have your picture hanging in his rooms?

I am not Eccentrica Gallumbits, the triple breasted whore from Eroticon Six.

The others elude me. Take 2 more DQs.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/49 "2012-03-26T13:07:33Z")

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IQ1: Were you the longest-living Stoor?

IQ2: Were you a Warrior whose name is also an exclamation?

IQ3: Did you walk by (head bowed) as another character says “…stand up. Your father’s passing”?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/50 "2012-03-26T14:34:52Z")

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IQ1: Are you a pinch-hitting hero on a bum leg?

IQ2: Have your creations defined generations of nerds?

IQ3: Are you a long-time (and still active) parliamentarian?

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/51 "2012-03-26T15:15:02Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> IQ3: Did you walk by (head bowed) as another character says “…stand up. Your father’s passing”?

Oops. :smack: …for IQ3 I meant the **actor** (who won an Oscar for the role), not the character.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/52 "2012-03-26T16:19:36Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> The French opera composer eludes me, but I’ll take a wild stab and say Gounod. Chances are good you’ve scored a DQ here.

No, the French opera composer does not elude you - Gounod was who wrote ‘Faust’ and ‘Roméo et Juliette’, and was who I had in mind. Well done.

IQ1: Are you the Indian divinity associated with beginnings?

IQ2: Are you a member of ‘The Tragically Hip’?

IQ3: Are your mysteries named for English pubs?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/53 "2012-03-26T18:02:15Z")

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> glee IQ1: Were you the longest-living Stoor?
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> IQ2: Were you a Warrior whose name is also an exclamation?
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> IQ3: Did you walk by (head bowed) as another character says “…stand up. Your father’s passing”?
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> > Oops. …for IQ3 I meant the actor (who won an Oscar for the role), not the character.

I’m not Geronimo or Gregory Peck. The first one is a mystery. Take a DQ.

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> Enginerd IQ1: Are you a pinch-hitting hero on a bum leg?
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> IQ2: Have your creations defined generations of nerds?
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> IQ3: Are you a long-time (and still active) parliamentarian?

No clue. Take 3

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> Le Ministre de l’au-delà
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> IQ1: Are you the Indian divinity associated with beginnings?
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> IQ2: Are you a member of ‘The Tragically Hip’?
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> IQ3: Are your mysteries named for English pubs?

I am not Lord Ganesh. The other two slide by me. Take your two.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/54 "2012-03-26T18:09:05Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a pinch-hitting hero on a bum leg?
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> IQ2: Have your creations defined generations of nerds?
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> IQ3: Are you a long-time (and still active) parliamentarian?

1. [Kirk Gibson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Gibson#The_1988_World_Series_home_run)
2. [Gary Gygax](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gygax)
3. [George Clinton](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clinton_%28musician%29)

DQ1: Are you European?  
DQ2: Did you die after 1900?  
DQ3: Are you an artist?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/55 "2012-03-26T18:37:45Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Lat name starts with G
4. Not American
5. Dead
6. European
7. dead after 1900
8. An artist

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/56 "2012-03-27T01:59:31Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
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> Were you a noteworthy alien prostitute?  
> Were you a mad fleet captain?  
> Did Sherlock Holmes have your picture hanging in his rooms?

Correct as to Eccentrica Gallumbits from _The Hitchhiker’s Guide_.  
The second is Fleet Captain Garth of Izar from _Star Trek_’s “Whom Gods Destroy.”  
The third is Gen. Charles “Chinese” Gordon.

DQs:

A painter?  
French?

IQs:

Did your best friend have the name of his show emblazoned on his hat?  
Did you have a dog named Sweetlips and a horse named Nelson?  
Did you “lose control” of your horse at an opportune moment?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/57 "2012-03-27T05:54:57Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Lat name starts with G
4. Not American
5. Dead
6. European
7. dead after 1900
8. An artist
9. Not a painter
10. French

> [@](#):
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> Elendil’s Heir   
> ?
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> IQs:
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> Did your best friend have the name of his show emblazoned on his hat?  
> Did you have a dog named Sweetlips and a horse named Nelson?  
> Did you “lose control” of your horse at an opportune moment?

I’m 0 for 3. take your DQs

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/58 "2012-03-27T17:13:58Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the Indian divinity associated with beginnings?
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> IQ2: Are you a member of ‘The Tragically Hip’?
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> IQ3: Are your mysteries named for English pubs?

> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> I am not Lord Ganesh. The other two slide by me. Take your two.

Ganesh is quite right.

‘The Tragically Hip’, an iconic Canadian rock band, actually has two Gordons - Gord Downie, who is the lead singer and does the bulk of the lyric writing, and Gordon Sinclair, the bass player/backing vocalist.

Martha Grimes has a mystery series featuring Inspector Richard Jury and Melrose Plant. The titles of these books derive from rather unusual names of British pubs - The Dirty Duck, The Anodyne Necklace, The Man with a Load of Mischief…  
DQ: Are you a sculptor?

DQ: Are you Parisian?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/59 "2012-03-27T20:01:17Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Lat name starts with G
4. Not American
5. Dead
6. European
7. dead after 1900
8. An artist
9. Not a painter
10. French
11. not a sculptor
12. probably Parisian

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/60 "2012-03-28T04:03:47Z")

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IQ1: Are you an academy award-winning actor who grew disgusted with your most famous role?

IQ2: Are you somebody’s giant?

IQ3: Are you the title character in a John Irving novel?

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