# Botticelli, March 2012. Game 2: Z

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 21, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440 "2012-03-21T20:41:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/61 "2012-03-28T04:19:35Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you an academy award-winning actor who grew disgusted with your most famous role?
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> IQ2: Are you somebody’s giant?
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> IQ3: Are you the title character in a John Irving novel?

I’m not Alec Guinness or T.S. Garp

I’m not that guy from the Billy Crystal movie either, but since I don’t have the name, you get a DQ

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/62 "2012-03-28T04:58:45Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did your best friend have the name of his show emblazoned on his hat?  
> Did you have a dog named Sweetlips and a horse named Nelson?  
> Did you “lose control” of your horse at an opportune moment?

The co-host of SNL’s _Wayne’s World_, Garth.  
George Washington owned both those animals.  
George Armstrong Custer made quite a splash at the Grand Review in Washington, D.C. at the end of the Civil War by “accidentally” riding at a gallop down Pennyslvania Avenue while others were riding or marching more sedately.

DQs:

Author?  
Alive in 1950?

I’ll reserve my third DQ for now.

IQs:

Did you write _Madame Bovary_?  
Did the Alan Parsons Project name an album after you?  
Did you criticize the U.S. Constitution as “a covenant with Hell”?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/63 "2012-03-28T06:11:37Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The co-host of SNL’s _Wayne’s World_, Garth.  
> George Washington owned both those animals.  
> George Armstrong Custer made quite a splash at the Grand Review in Washington, D.C. at the end of the Civil War by “accidentally” riding at a gallop down Pennyslvania Avenue while others were riding or marching more sedately.
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> DQs:
> 
> Author?  
> Alive in 1950?
> 
> I’ll reserve my third DQ for now.
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> IQs:
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> Did you write _Madame Bovary_?  
> Did the Alan Parsons Project name an album after you?  
> Did you criticize the U.S. Constitution as “a covenant with Hell”?

I am:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Last name starts with G
4. Not American
5. Dead
6. European
7. died after 1900
8. An artist
9. Not a painter
10. French
11. not a sculptor
12. probably Parisian
13. Not an author
14. Alive in 1950

I am not Gustave Flaubert.  
Your other questions have racked you up another two DQs

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/64 "2012-03-28T14:24:54Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> I’m not that guy from the Billy Crystal movie either, but since I don’t have the name, you get a DQ

That was George Muresan.

DQ: Are you a musician?

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/65 "2012-03-28T17:14:29Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> IQ1: Were you the longest-living Stoor?
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> IQ2: Were you a Warrior whose name is also an exclamation?
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> IQ3: Did you walk by (head bowed) as another character says “…stand up. Your father’s passing”? (I meant the **actor** (who won an Oscar for the role), not the character)

> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> I’m not Geronimo or Gregory Peck. The first one is a mystery. Take a DQ.

Yes to your two answers; Gollum was the longest-living Stoor.

DQ: Were you alive in 1975?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/66 "2012-03-28T20:25:44Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Last name starts with G
4. Not American
5. Dead
6. European
7. died after 1900
8. An artist
9. Not a painter
10. French
11. not a sculptor
12. probably Parisian
13. Not an author
14. Alive in 1950
15. A musician
16. Alive in 1975

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/67 "2012-03-28T20:51:09Z")

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IQ: Did you play violin in the _Quintette du Hot Club de France_?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/68 "2012-03-28T21:33:29Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ: Did you play violin in the _Quintette du Hot Club de France_?

Not a clue. take your DQ.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/69 "2012-03-28T21:41:27Z")

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Man, I was sure you were [Stéphane Grappelli](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%A9phane_Grappelli).

DQ: Were you younger than 40 at the time of your death?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/70 "2012-03-28T22:32:56Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Last name starts with G
4. Not American
5. Dead
6. European
7. died after 1900
8. An artist
9. Not a painter
10. French
11. not a sculptor
12. probably Parisian
13. Not an author
14. Alive in 1950
15. A musician
16. Alive in 1975
17. Dead after 40

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/71 "2012-03-29T02:02:52Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you write _Madame Bovary_?  
> Did the Alan Parsons Project name an album after you?  
> Did you criticize the U.S. Constitution as “a covenant with Hell”?

Correct as to Flaubert.  
Antonio Gaudi, the architect of La Sagrada Familia in Barcelona, was musically interpreted in the APP album _Gaudi_.  
Abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison said this due to the Constitution’s original protection of slavery.

All right, three DQs, then (incl. the one I reserved from earlier), and… I don’t really know what to ask. I don’t know any French musicians of the late 20th century with a last name starting with “G.” If anyone would like to ask my DQs, help yourself.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/72 "2012-03-29T11:16:02Z")

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Of French musicians I too can only think of Stéphane Grappelli.  
Is it worth trying for:

- singer (and if not, which instrument)
- classical, jazz or other?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/73 "2012-03-29T14:29:41Z")

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Sure, formalize those as DQs, if you like.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/74 "2012-03-29T15:30:57Z")

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IQ: Were you married to Jane Birkin?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/75 "2012-03-29T18:19:49Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Were you married to Jane Birkin?

Yes. I am Serge Gainsbourg.

Well played, Ministre. The next round is yours.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/76 "2012-03-29T22:07:24Z")

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Never heard of him! But congrats, **Ministre**.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/77 "2012-03-30T11:12:43Z")

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I’ve heard of (and seen pics of) Jane Birkin. 🆒  
All I remember about her was she made a record with a French guy called ‘Je t’aime’- so presumably that was Serge?!

Thanks, Ministre.

P.S. I’m starting to feel uncultured, since I didn’t know two of the last three chappies. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/78 "2012-03-30T21:17:21Z")

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I don’t think you should feel uncultured for not knowing Serge Gainsbourg - I know him (and Jane Birkin) because I had a French teacher who was very keen on the positive effects of listening to French singers. I have amused memories of the day when she played ‘Je t’aime - moi non plus’ to us without having meant to…

So, over to me again; actually, we’re close enough to April, why don’t I just start a new thread? I’ll leave a link once it’s up and running…

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2012-game-2-z/616440/79 "2012-03-30T21:23:13Z")

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New thread at [this link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14919923#post14919923)…

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