# Botticelli - March 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 1, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774 "2013-03-01T22:59:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/201 "2013-03-16T02:55:27Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you lose your ship in a game of chance? > Are you still honored by many despite your anti-Semitism? > Does a fictional distant-future ruler bear your name? > [@Enginerd](#): > > Not Lando Calrissian or Charles Lindbergh. DQ for the third question… Correct as to Lando. I’ll rephrase the second. Leonidas of Sparta, after whom the Emperor of Humanity in Niven and Pournelle’s _The Mote in God’s Eye_ is named. DQs (one just earned, and one earlier reserved): Businessman or tycoon? Generally admired in his lifetime? IQs: Are you a European religious figure still honored by many, despite your anti-Semitism? Has the pronunciation of your first name changed in recent years among your admirers? Did an actor from _Taxi_ provide your voice in an animated movie? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/202 "2013-03-16T04:43:36Z")
> [@guylevesque](#): > > Were you a Welsh airman, recipient of the Victoria Cross, who died in The Bahamas? > Were you a British paleontologist born in Kenya and famous for his work on evolution? Not Louis Leakey. Take a DQ for the airman. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Are you a European religious figure still honored by many, despite your anti-Semitism? > Has the pronunciation of your first name changed in recent years among your admirers? > Did an actor from _Taxi_ provide your voice in an animated movie? Not Martin Luther. Take two more DQs. DQs: 1. Real 2. Not American 3. Male 4. Dead 5. European 6. British citizen at some point in his life 7. First name starts with L 8. Not famous for political or military roles 9. Not famous for accomplishments related to the arts 10. Born before 1950 11. Not known as an athlete 12. Not a scientist 13. Died after 1950 14. Born before 1900 15. Citizen of another European country before becoming a citizen of the UK. 16. Not a businessman or tycoon 17. Well-regarded, but not necessarily well-known, during his lifetime. His primary claim to fame is posthumous. _Amendment to DQ answers_ Part of the reason I picked this guy was because he doesn’t fit easily into any of the typical categories we ask about, but that also mean you burn through more DQs than with most people. You could make an argument of including him in the arts (although you’d have to expand the definition we’ve been using a little more), or another for considering him a scientist. I wouldn’t buy either of those arguments, but it might help get you onto the right track. I’m also happy to go past 20 questions if you want - let’s see what the next 3 bring. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/203 "2013-03-16T16:08:06Z")
IQ1: Are you a librettist who collaborated with Mozart on three operas? IQ2: Were you a conductor for the New York Philharmonic? IQ3: Was the city we now call ‘Kinshasa’ originally named for you? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/204 "2013-03-16T18:44:06Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you a librettist who collaborated with Mozart on three operas? > IQ2: Were you a conductor for the New York Philharmonic? > IQ3: Was the city we now call ‘Kinshasa’ originally named for you? I’m not Ludwig van Beethoven, Leonard Bernstein, or King Leopold of Belgium. I’m not sure on Beethoven or Bernstein, so take a DQ if they’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/205 "2013-03-16T19:12:08Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > I’m not Ludwig van Beethoven, Leonard Bernstein, or King Leopold of Belgium. I’m not sure on Beethoven or Bernstein, so take a DQ if they’re wrong. Leonard Bernstein and Leopold of Belgium are both correct. Beethoven was a good guess, but sadly, wrong. (I’m not sure, without grabbing either of their biographies, if they ever met…) **Lorenzo da Ponte** was the librettist for The Marriage of Figaro, Don Giovanni and Così fan tutte. One more wild guess, and then I think I’m done… DQ: Do you hold a hereditary title, whether royal or through an honour system such as the British peerage? (King, Prince, Count, Viscount, Marquis, Earl, Duke, Baron or their foreign language equivalents…) ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/206 "2013-03-17T14:38:29Z")
DQs: 1. Real 2. Not American 3. Male 4. Dead 5. European 6. British citizen at some point in his life 7. First name starts with L 8. Not famous for political or military roles 9. Not famous for accomplishments related to the arts 10. Born before 1950 11. Not known as an athlete 12. Not a scientist 13. Died after 1950 14. Born before 1900 15. Citizen of another European country before becoming a citizen of the UK. 16. Not a businessman or tycoon 17. Well-regarded, but not necessarily well-known, during his lifetime. His primary claim to fame is posthumous. 18. Does not hold hereditary title ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/207 "2013-03-18T16:48:15Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Are you a European religious figure still honored by many, despite your anti-Semitism? > Has the pronunciation of your first name changed in recent years among your admirers? > Did an actor from _Taxi_ provide your voice in an animated movie? > [@Enginerd](#): > > …Not Martin Luther. Take two more DQs… Yes, Martin Luther. Jazz musicians IME now almost universally refer to “LOU-is” Armstrong rather than the long-popular “Louie” Armstrong. Danny DeVito provided the voice of the Lorax. DQs: Died since 2000? Was something about him discovered after his death that then made him famous? IQs: Were you a British general after whom a Pennsylvania fort was named? Are you those who carry on your business called “names”? Were you a character in a popular series of kids’ books whose name was comprised of two colors? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/208 "2013-03-18T19:24:06Z")
A lateral pass to the rest of the team - so, I wonder if this is some sort of Schindler/Raoul Wallenberg sort of figure, who smuggled people out of either Nazi Germany or early Soviet Russia. I was thinking maybe this might have been one of the people smuggled, Graf Leopold von something or other, perhaps… Other than that idea, I have nothing. **Elendil’s Heir** has the last two DQs; maybe those answers will turn something up. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/209 "2013-03-19T05:44:05Z")
IQ: Are you a Nobel Laureate author whose book title mentions a geograpic term? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/210 "2013-03-20T14:36:15Z")
Apologies for the protracted absence - real life intervened this week. DQs: 1. Real 2. Not American 3. Male 4. Dead 5. European 6. British citizen at some point in his life 7. First name starts with L 8. Not famous for political or military roles 9. Not famous for accomplishments related to the arts 10. Born before 1950 11. Not known as an athlete 12. Not a scientist 13. Died after 1950 14. Born before 1900 15. Citizen of another European country before becoming a citizen of the UK. 16. Not a businessman or tycoon 17. Well-regarded, but not necessarily well-known, during his lifetime. His primary claim to fame is posthumous.\* 18. Does not hold hereditary title 19. Died before 2000 (but since he was born before 1900, this doesn’t tell you much - **EH** , do you want to reconsider the year or ask a different DQ?) 20. There was nothing discovered after his death that made him more famous\* \*Addendum to DQs 17/20: He was well known within his field during his lifetime. After he died, his influence expanded greatly not with a discovery, but with the publicization of his work. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/211 "2013-03-20T14:42:16Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Were you a British general after whom a Pennsylvania fort was named? > Are you those who carry on your business called “names”? > Were you a character in a popular series of kids’ books whose name was comprised of two colors? > [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Are you a Nobel Laureate author whose book title mentions a geograpic term? I don’t know any of these! ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/212 "2013-03-20T18:50:23Z")
IQ: Did you found a religion that many consider a cult? My poor previous IQ refered to Solzhitnetzin (_Gulag Archipalego_) ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/213 "2013-03-20T18:56:16Z")
DQ: Die of natural causes? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/214 "2013-03-20T19:05:28Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Did you found a religion that many consider a cult? > > My poor previous IQ refered to Solzhitnetzin (_Gulag Archipalego_) I’m not L. Ron Hubbard. And you don’t get a DQ for Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn, because none of his names begin with L. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/215 "2013-03-20T20:21:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you a British general after whom a Pennsylvania fort was named? > Are you those who carry on your business called “names”? > Were you a character in a popular series of kids’ books whose name was comprised of two colors? Ft. Ligonier in present-day Ligonier, Pa. was named after Sir John Ligonier. Lloyd’s of London. Lavender Brown, in the Harry Potter books. > [@Enginerd](#): > > Apologies for the protracted absence - real life intervened this week. > > DQs: > … > 14. Born before 1900 > … > 19. Died before 2000 (but since he was born before 1900, this doesn’t tell you much - **EH** , do you want to reconsider the year or ask a different DQ?)… D’oh! Yes, please. I still don’t know who this is. Can’t think of anyone who fits all the clues. I yield my four earned DQs, one per customer, to other players. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/216 "2013-03-20T23:09:53Z")
I have three DQs from post 184; anyone who wants them can have them… ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/217 "2013-03-21T01:53:17Z")
DQ: Died of natural causes? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/218 "2013-03-21T01:56:10Z")
DQs: 1. Real 2. Not American 3. Male 4. Dead 5. European 6. British citizen at some point in his life 7. First name starts with L 8. Not famous for political or military roles 9. Not famous for accomplishments related to the arts 10. Born before 1950 11. Not known as an athlete 12. Not a scientist 13. Died after 1950 14. Born before 1900 15. Citizen of another European country before becoming a citizen of the UK. 16. Not a businessman or tycoon 17. Well-regarded, but not necessarily well-known, during his lifetime. His primary claim to fame is posthumous.\* 18. Does not hold hereditary title 19. Died before 2000 20. There was nothing discovered after his death that made him more famous\* 21. Died of natural causes \*Addendum to DQs 17/20: He was well known within his field during his lifetime. After he died, his influence expanded greatly not with a discovery, but with the publicization of his work. Reply With Quote ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/219 "2013-03-22T01:36:15Z")
DQ: French? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2013/651774/220 "2013-03-22T01:44:09Z")
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