# Botticelli, March 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 9, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297 "2014-03-09T21:04:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/101 "2014-03-17T15:53:37Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Occasionally male.
3. Only name starts with G.
4. Apparently somehow still alive.
5. Not American, but character created by Americans.
6. First appeared after 1950.
7. First appeared in a movie.
8. Not human, but occasionally humanoid.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/102 "2014-03-17T15:54:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you charged with trespassing, theft and damage of property in a children’s trial?  
> Were you a French admiral in the right place at the right time?  
> Did you publish _The Liberator_?

I’m not Gretel?  
Take DQs for the other 2.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/103 "2014-03-18T00:04:32Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Did you participate in a walking race where slowing down or quitting got you shot?  
> IQ2: Were you a pinball machine character who challenged the player thusly: “Me [name]. Beat me!”  
> IQ3: Did you portray the emcee of the dance marathon in “They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?”

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> and take 3 DQs.

Number 1 is looking for Ray Garrity, from “The Long Walk.” Number 2 is Gorgar, a popular pinball machine back in the 1980s. Number 3 is Gig Young.

Three DQs reserved for now–this is going to take some thinking about.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/104 "2014-03-18T14:41:37Z")

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Garrity was the answer in a previous Botticelli round, wasn’t he?

Previous IQs:

Were you charged with trespassing, theft and damage of property in a children’s trial? - Gretel is a good guess, but this was Goldilocks, in an Ohio State Bar Assoc. educational program.  
Were you a French admiral in the right place at the right time? - Comte de Grasse, during the 1781 Yorktown campaign, helped bottle up Cornwallis’s army.  
Did you publish _The Liberator_? - Hell-for-leather abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison.

DQs:

Alien?  
Appeared in more than one movie?

IQs:

Did your family die during a performance?  
Were you the confidante of a young secret agent?  
Did the same actor play you, a corrupt politician and a nightclub entertainer?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/105 "2014-03-18T14:54:15Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Occasionally male.
3. Only name starts with G.
4. Apparently somehow still alive.
5. Not American, but character created by Americans.
6. First appeared after 1950.
7. First appeared in a movie.
8. Not human, but occasionally humanoid.
9. Alien (well, from another dimension)
10. Only appeared in one movie, but also appeared in movie-related video-game and cartoon

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/106 "2014-03-18T14:56:06Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did your family die during a performance?  
> Were you the confidante of a young secret agent?  
> Did the same actor play you, a corrupt politician and a nightclub entertainer?

I am not Dick Grayson (of the Flying Graysons).  
Take DQs for the last 2.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/107 "2014-03-18T15:26:23Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did your family die during a performance? - Yes, Dick Grayson/Robin.  
Were you the confidante of a young secret agent? - Ol’ Golly in _Harriet the Spy_.  
Did the same actor play you, a corrupt politician and a nightclub entertainer? - British actor Colin Jeavons played G. Lestrade (Conan Doyle never gave us his first name) in the Granada TV _The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes_ films with Jeremy Brett; Tim Stamper in _House of Cards_, and Max Quordlepleen in _The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy_.

DQs:

First appeared after 1980?  
Movie set mostly or entirely in the U.S.?

IQs:

Were you a supernatural being who came to New York City in the Eighties?  
Did you and your wife tear at each other in the presence of a younger married couple?  
Were you “the Rock of Chickamauga”?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/108 "2014-03-18T16:22:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:  
> Were you a supernatural being who came to New York City in the Eighties?

\*Gozer the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! \*

Yes, I am Gozer the Gozerian!

Well done, EH!

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/109 "2014-03-18T17:34:33Z")

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Very nice! Was thinking Ghostbusters, couldn’t think of appropriate character.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/110 "2014-03-18T20:14:28Z")

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Good one, **Prof. P**., and thanks. I thought that might the guy, er, gal, er… _thing_.

Other previous IQs:

Did you and your wife tear at each other in the presence of a younger married couple? - George and Martha in _Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?_  
Were you “the Rock of Chickamauga”? - George Henry Thomas, a Civil War general and hero of mine.

Lemme think a little on the next name.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/111 "2014-03-19T15:44:53Z")

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And our next letter is

S

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/112 "2014-03-19T15:54:53Z")

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IQ: Were you a pioneering Greek writer?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/113 "2014-03-19T16:26:05Z")

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Not Socrates.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/114 "2014-03-19T17:53:38Z")

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That was Sophocles.

Socrates was a philosopher.

DQ: Real?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/115 "2014-03-19T20:07:31Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write _The Odd Couple_?
2. Did you play Gloria Stivic on TV?
3. Did you have a hit with _These Boots Are Made For Walking_?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/116 "2014-03-19T20:08:40Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write _The Odd Couple_?
> 2. Did you play Gloria Stivic on TV?
> 3. Did you have a hit with _These Boots Are Made For Walking_?

Not Neil Simon, Sally Struthers or Nancy Sinatra.

S.

1. not real

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/117 "2014-03-19T20:16:52Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you one of Grover’s VP’s?
2. Did you trade birthdays with a little girl?
3. Did you host _The Tonight Show_?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/118 "2014-03-19T20:22:38Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you one of Grover’s VP’s?
> 2. Did you trade birthdays with a little girl?
> 3. Did you host _The Tonight Show_?

Not Adlai Stevenson, dunno, and not… Steve Martin (he was a guest host, right?).

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/119 "2014-03-19T20:30:47Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you one of Grover’s VP’s?
> 2. Did you trade birthdays with a little girl?
> 3. Did you host _The Tonight Show_?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Adlai Stevenson, dunno, and not… Steve Martin (he was a guest host, right?).

Adlai’s right.  
#2 was Robert Lewis Stevenson (Her birthday was on Christmas, and he changed with her so she could get presents twice a year like other children.)  
#3 was Steve Allen, first host of _The Tonight Show_. Steve Martin did guest-host for Johnny once or twice, but, hey, who didn’t?.

DQ: Male?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2014/683297/120 "2014-03-19T20:37:07Z")

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Oh, and thanks for updating the letters used list again, EH! Looks like I’ll be thinking of ones for K and F.

IQs:

1. Did you kill Bobby Kennedy?
2. Did you compose _Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District_?
3. Were you probably the first notable jazz saxophonist?

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