# Botticelli - March 2015

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**Created:** [March 1, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955 "2015-03-01T21:49:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/181 "2015-03-11T21:54:16Z")

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_Originally Posted by astorian View Post  
IQ1) Were you a mini-skirted communist activist in Northern Ireland?  
IQ2) Are you the only SMU alumnus to win the Heisman Trophy?  
IQ3) Are you a fictional barrio gang member who became a top CIA operative?_  
They are, in order, Bernadette Devlin, Doak Walker and Domingo “Ding” Chavez (a character in numerous Tom Clancy books).  
DQ1) Whether or not you’re a “Good guy,” do you make your living illegally?

DQ2) Would the books you appear in appear in the sci-fi, fantasy or horror sections?

DQ3) Are you human?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/182 "2015-03-12T03:07:38Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did Gene Hackman play you in several movies? - “Popeye” Doyle  
Were you killed in a movie since 1990, but returned to life in a TV show? - Darth Maul  
Were you a naval officer whom Lincoln admired? - Adm. John Dahlgren

Looks like we’re at 20 DQs. Hmm. Not sure who this guy is.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/183 "2015-03-12T13:00:56Z")

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With one exception, all of the fictional characters I can think of that are associated with NYC either are cops/detectives or are best known from TV. And that one exception doesn’t have a ‘D’ name.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/184 "2015-03-12T13:19:58Z")

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DQ roundup

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name starts with D
4. American
5. From a movie or series of movies, but not best known for that
6. First appeared before 1975
7. Technically not a good guy, but is still a favorable character
8. Considered contemporary the first time he appeared
9. First appeared after 1950
10. Associated with NYC
11. Does not prefer guns
12. Better known from literature
13. Not a sidekick or supporting character
14. Not a cop or detective
15. Not considered stylish or well-dressed by a long shot
16. Known from a series of books
17. Adult
18. Generally makes a living illegally
19. Not sci-fi, fantasy or horror genre
20. Human

Additional hint: I was portrayed on screen by Martin Lawrence, but the movie was utter crap and proof that Lawrence should never work again.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/185 "2015-03-12T13:21:06Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Do you sell rat-on-a-stick in Ankh-Morpork?
> 2. Did you sing for Jack Benny?
> 3. Do you know the secret of the Heavyside Layer?

not Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler, dunno x2

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/186 "2015-03-12T14:12:15Z")

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So… we’re in the “Are you Firstname Lastname?” phase. Thanks for the big hint about Martin Lawrence, but I don’t know the names of any of his characters. Hmmm.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/187 "2015-03-12T14:18:41Z")

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I have a very hard time picturing Martin Lawrence as this character\*, but… are you professional thief John Dortmunder from Donald Westalke’s \*\*\*The Hot Rock \*\*\*(among other books)?

(I’ve never read any of the books, but know of the character from the Robert Redford movie.)

- Then again, I can’t picture Whoopi Goldberg as professional thief Bernie Rhodenbarr, either!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/188 "2015-03-12T15:18:05Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I have a very hard time picturing Martin Lawrence as this character\*, but… are you professional thief John Dortmunder from Donald Westalke’s \*\*\*The Hot Rock \*\*\*(among other books)?
> 
> (I’ve never read any of the books, but know of the character from the Robert Redford movie.)
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> - Then again, I can’t picture Whoopi Goldberg as professional thief Bernie Rhodenbarr, either!

Which is why the movie failed so horribly.

Yes, I am John [SIZE=“7”]Dortmunder[/SIZE] from many caper books written by Donald E. Westlake.

Congrats **astorian**!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/189 "2015-03-12T15:44:16Z")

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Hmmm… let’s see. What’s a letter I haven’t used lately?

Let’s go with W

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/190 "2015-03-12T16:37:15Z")

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Wow, didn’t know Dortmunder at all! Oh, well…  
IQs:

1. Are you a witch who is the protagonist in a series of books by a great author who died today?
2. Is the high school in Elwood, Indiana named after you?
3. Did you shoot Lincoln?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/191 "2015-03-12T16:52:08Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Wow, didn’t know Dortmunder at all! Oh, well…  
> IQs:
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> 1. Are you a witch who is the protagonist in a series of books by a great author who died today?
> 2. Is the high school in Elwood, Indiana named after you?
> 3. Did you shoot Lincoln?

I know #1 has to be a Terry Pratchett character, but I’ve never read anything he’s ever written. Take a DQ for #1

No clue on #2

Not John Wilkes Booth.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/192 "2015-03-12T17:07:28Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you a witch who is the protagonist in a series of books by a great author who died today?
> 2. Is the high school in Elwood, Indiana named after you?
> 3. Did you shoot Lincoln?

> [@astorian](#):
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> I know #1 has to be a Terry Pratchett character, but I’ve never read anything he’s ever written. Take a DQ for #1
> 
> No clue on #2
> 
> Not John Wilkes Booth.

Correct on Terry Pratchett, the character is Granny Weatherwax. #2 was Wendell L. Willkie. Correct on Booth.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/193 "2015-03-12T17:08:28Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real
2. Male

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/194 "2015-03-12T17:27:59Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write _Leaves of Grass_?
2. Did you compose _A Saturday Night at the World_?
3. Did you start your broadcasts with “Good evening, Mr & Mrs. America, and all the ships at sea. Let’s go to press!”

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/195 "2015-03-12T18:07:06Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Wow, didn’t know Dortmunder at all! Oh, well…  
> IQs:
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> 1. Are you a witch who is the protagonist in a series of books by a great author who died today?

NOOOOO!!!

He’s one of my favorite authors. I’m really heartbroken.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/196 "2015-03-12T18:27:25Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I can’t picture Whoopi Goldberg as professional thief Bernie Rhodenbarr, either!

Whoopi Goldberg as Bernie Rhodenbarr??? The mind boggles. I don’t think I even want to hear any details…  
I’ve read The Hot Rock - was just thinking about it a few days ago, in fact  
IQ1: Were you an outstanding archer, as long as you didn’t think anyone was watching?  
IQ2: Were you a pig starring in a Superman parody?  
IQ3: Were you a Bohemian duke who has been immortalised in song?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/197 "2015-03-12T18:29:52Z")

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A thread on Pratchett’s death: [Terry Pratchett dead at 66. - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=751504). My condolences to his fans.

On to W.

IQs:

Are you the only leader of your country to have earned a Ph.D.?  
Were you the last of your kind to be eaten?  
Did you fire Gifford Pinchot, causing a political stir?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/198 "2015-03-12T18:40:35Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you an outstanding archer, as long as you didn’t think anyone was watching?  
> IQ2: Were you a pig starring in a Superman parody?  
> IQ3: Were you a Bohemian duke who has been immortalised in song?

Not William Tell?

Take a DQ for #2

Not good king Wenceslas?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/199 "2015-03-12T18:41:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Are you the only leader of your country to have earned a Ph.D.?  
> Were you the last of your kind to be eaten?  
> Did you fire Gifford Pinchot, causing a political stir?

Not Woodrow Wilson

Take DQs for #2 and #3

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2015/713955/200 "2015-03-12T20:08:41Z")

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IQ1: Were you the last German Emperor and King of Prussia?  
IQ2: Are you a director of _The Matrix_ who used to be a man?  
IQ3: Did radical feminist Valerie Solanas attempt to kill you in 1968?

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